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X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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the great deceiver posted:

It's one of my favorite documentaries ever if just for the scene where Arnold is talking about constantly cumming. I wonder if he was constantly cumming in the Governor's office.

I can't tell what my favorite Arnold moment is, that scene, the advice about screaming, or the bit where he talks about loving Lou Ferrigno

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Just watched Teacher of the Year, pretty solid mockumentary, it has Key of Key and Peele and some other familiar comedians.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
I just watched The Guest, which was fantastic. I didn't even realize until looking it up on IMDB afterwards that David was Matthew Crawley on Downton Abbey :aaa:

Shanty
Nov 7, 2005

I Love Dogs

MeatwadIsGod posted:

I just watched The Guest, which was fantastic. I didn't even realize until looking it up on IMDB afterwards that David was Matthew Crawley on Downton Abbey :aaa:

Same, what a great movie. It's so slick. Everyone get on it.

rest his guts
Mar 3, 2013

...pls father forgive me
for my terrible post history...
I grew up on and remain a huge Cream fan and yet somehow knew nothing about Ginger Baker past admiration for his drumming/personality in two tracks in particular off Disraeli Gears (We're Going Wrong, Blue Condition).

Can't say enough about "Beware of Mr. Baker". One of the most entertaining, if not the best, documentaries I've ever seen. The Nigerian bits and the heroine dream sequence were especially interesting. Actually, pretty much every period of his life is.

rest his guts fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Jul 29, 2015

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

rest his guts posted:

Can't say enough about "Beware of Mr. Baker". One of the most entertaining, if not the best, documentaries I've ever seen. The Nigerian bits and the heroine dream sequence were especially interesting. Actually, pretty much every period of his life is.

Yeah it is absolutely loving great, and I was never even that much of a Cream fan. Dude is just nuts and kinda awesome.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Aw man, everybody watch Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends before it's gone. It's not as crazy as the 60s cartoon, but still wonderfully weird, and narrated by a middle-aged Stan Lee.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

Basebf555 posted:

That's also two really good performances now by Maika Monroe, I just saw It Follows recently as well.

MeatwadIsGod posted:

I just watched The Guest, which was fantastic. I didn't even realize until looking it up on IMDB afterwards that David was Matthew Crawley on Downton Abbey :aaa:

I am looking forward to seeing both of them in more things. I just hope Maika stays smart about the roles she accepts, because that girl has a future. I know she is the lead (President Whitmore's daughter all grown up) in the new Independence Day movie, but I'm not sure if Emmerich can recapture the magic.

Random fact: Maika Monroe is a professional kiteboarder too.

nate fisher fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jul 29, 2015

Short Penguin
Jun 1, 2010

Enos Cabell posted:

Cinema Paradiso is on Netflix and terrific if you haven't gotten around to seeing it yet.

my favorite movie, it's always worth a watch.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Short Penguin posted:

my favorite movie, it's always worth a watch.

Cinema Paradiso has always eluded me. Do you care to elaborate on why it's your favorite movie?

Short Penguin
Jun 1, 2010

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Cinema Paradiso has always eluded me. Do you care to elaborate on why it's your favorite movie?

I think it's because film has had such an impact on me growing up, so the relationship between the main character/the old projectionist really makes me happy. I also think it's nostalgia as well. I used to watch it with my grandmother and it was her favorite movie too. Also, I watched it when I was young and really loved it?

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I just watched The Guest.

What the hell is wrong with you people. That's the shittiest most pointless two hours I've wasted. I kept waiting for that "Dusk Til Dawn" second half twist, or something, anything, to make the godawful poo poo show worth the effort, but no. All I got was a godawful poo poo show.

I should have known when are you seriously reading a spoiler to find out when I knew this was a lovely movie? What could I possibly be hiding? That the black dude from Lost is a Military Police guy in a full length leather coat? That there's a cliche'd bar fight, gun deal gone wrong, house on the prairie shootout? I swear I kept waiting for the bad guy to turn out to be a robot, or the terminator, or something.

gently caress sakes what a goddamn lovely movie.

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

magnificent7 posted:

I just watched The Guest.

What the hell is wrong with you people. That's the shittiest most pointless two hours I've wasted. I kept waiting for that "Dusk Til Dawn" second half twist, or something, anything, to make the godawful poo poo show worth the effort, but no. All I got was a godawful poo poo show.

I should have known when are you seriously reading a spoiler to find out when I knew this was a lovely movie? What could I possibly be hiding? That the black dude from Lost is a Military Police guy in a full length leather coat? That there's a cliche'd bar fight, gun deal gone wrong, house on the prairie shootout? I swear I kept waiting for the bad guy to turn out to be a robot, or the terminator, or something.

gently caress sakes what a goddamn lovely movie.

Well sorry.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

magnificent7 posted:

I just watched The Guest.

What the hell is wrong with you people. That's the shittiest most pointless two hours I've wasted. I kept waiting for that "Dusk Til Dawn" second half twist, or something, anything, to make the godawful poo poo show worth the effort, but no. All I got was a godawful poo poo show.

I should have known when are you seriously reading a spoiler to find out when I knew this was a lovely movie? What could I possibly be hiding? That the black dude from Lost is a Military Police guy in a full length leather coat? That there's a cliche'd bar fight, gun deal gone wrong, house on the prairie shootout? I swear I kept waiting for the bad guy to turn out to be a robot, or the terminator, or something.

gently caress sakes what a goddamn lovely movie.

Sorry you don't like cool things. :shrug:

Parachute
May 18, 2003

magnificent7 posted:

I just watched The Guest.

What the hell is wrong with you people. That's the shittiest most pointless two hours I've wasted. I kept waiting for that "Dusk Til Dawn" second half twist, or something, anything, to make the godawful poo poo show worth the effort, but no. All I got was a godawful poo poo show.

I should have known when are you seriously reading a spoiler to find out when I knew this was a lovely movie? What could I possibly be hiding? That the black dude from Lost is a Military Police guy in a full length leather coat? That there's a cliche'd bar fight, gun deal gone wrong, house on the prairie shootout? I swear I kept waiting for the bad guy to turn out to be a robot, or the terminator, or something.

gently caress sakes what a goddamn lovely movie.

All of those things are fun, though?

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
It just didn't live up to all the hype y'all put on it. I went in expecting Drive, and it was not Drive. Wasn't Drive lite.

It was the poo poo Sandwich of movies like Drive.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

magnificent7 posted:

It just didn't live up to all the hype y'all put on it. I went in expecting Drive, and it was not Drive. Wasn't Drive lite.

It was the poo poo Sandwich of movies like Drive.

It sucks to be the outlier

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

magnificent7 posted:

It just didn't live up to all the hype y'all put on it. I went in expecting Drive, and it was not Drive. Wasn't Drive lite.

It was the poo poo Sandwich of movies like Drive.

Well there's your mistake, dummy. If you expect a movie to be the best movie of all time then of course you aren't going to enjoy it, dummy. Stop being dumb.

Shoombo
Jan 1, 2013
Why the gently caress is anyone expecting Drive from The Guest. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen. I try to make an effort to call it an action movie when telling people about it. The closest I feel I've come to overselling it is comparing it to John Carpenter.

Like, I guess they're both 80's-esque movies with quiet protagonists who are very good at violence. But that's a huge genre.

Please don't compare The Guest to Drive. Watch it on its own merits and realize that it's dope as poo poo.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

magnificent7 posted:

I went in expecting Drive, and it was not Drive.

Don't know how you managed to convince yourself a movie would be identical to another movie.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
I didn't think The Guest was great, but I'm sure part of the soundtrack (when the military police guy was driving the blond daughter) is ripped from (or heavily influenced by, anyway) The Terminator.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
The Guest is not very John Carpenter, outside of the soundtrack.

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...
The Guest is very much a straight forward genre flick so I can fully understand someone not liking it. It hit on all cylinders for me, though, as someone who usually doesn't like that sort of thing. I also liked You're Next a lot, too. Also, you lose points in my book for seeing that film as featuring "that black guy from Lost" and not Daniels from The Wire.

I watched The Search for General Tso and while it wasn't anything astounding and rather lightweight, it's totally worth watching for free. I went in with the expectation that it would be one of those overly quirky substance-free documentaries that was stretching it's material way too thin and that I would quit after the first half hour. Instead, it actually goes into the history of Chinese immigrants in America and how the proliferation of Chinese restaurants in every small town occurred.

I really didn't think Hot Girls Wanted was very good. There is definitely stuff that could have been talked about, like how much they are being exploited or tricked by that dirtbag "agent", or how the reputation of females are affected when it's discovered they did porn versus males. But it barely touches on that and instead focuses on rather manipulative Christian-style moralizing. But maybe I'm just reflecting to off-set my own personal guilt.

kuddles fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Jul 30, 2015

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Why would you think The Guest was going to be like Drive? It's like the opposite of Drive. Drive takes a genre film an ups the indieness to 11 while The Guest takes a genre film and ups wackiness to 11. I mean it's a movie where a character puts in music to mask what she's doing and that music just happens to be synth score music that fits the scene.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

Hat Thoughts posted:

The Guest is not very John Carpenter, outside of the soundtrack.

I would say at the least it is influenced by Halloween and the Terminator (especially the last 3rd. I would call it more a tribute. How many more pumpkins do you have to see?

magnificent7 posted:

I just watched The Guest.

gently caress sakes what a goddamn lovely movie.


The Guest is my new litmus test if I trust a person's opinion on a genre movie. lovely movie? I know all subjective, but I will not ask you for any recommendations.

In your defense you are not the first one to mention Drive and The Guest together. I've seen several critics do it too. Outside of the extremes the lead character will go and the fact the soundtrack is so in your face at times, they shouldn't be compared.

Also Kuddles is correct. If you call Lance Reddick the "the black guy from Lost" instead of Lt. Daniels, you've lost already.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

the Guest was okay - certainly better than You're Next, anyway - but It Follows kinda shows that you can do way better when it comes to the subgenre of "recent throwback genre movies with synth soundtracks starring Maika Monroe."

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

kuddles posted:

I really didn't think Hot Girls Wanted was very good. There is definitely stuff that could have been talked about, like how much they are being exploited or tricked by that dirtbag "agent", or how the reputation of females are affected when it's discovered they did porn versus males. But it barely touches on that and instead focuses on rather manipulative Christian-style moralizing. But maybe I'm just reflecting to off-set my own personal guilt.

Speaking of said dirtbag agent, this 'take it with a grain of salt' interview post-film has at least one choice quote (http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/hot-girls-wanted-porn-agent/):

quote:

"One of them [four new Hussie models] saw the movie and she was like 'I want to do porn!' I'm like, "That movie made you want to do porn?' She's like 'Yeah!' I'm like, '...alright.' She sent me pictures and she looks really good, so I had her send me pictures of all her IDs and I had her get tested today. She's coming in Saturday."

Turns out that one person's industry exposé is another's feature-length promotional film.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
If you just looked at the cover for The Guest and saw a guy who looks like a Ryan Gosling type, wearing a tight shirt, with a brooding expression, you might jump to the conclusion that its going to be like Drive.

From my experience working at a Blockbuster Video years ago I know that this is how a lot of people evaluate what movies they'll watch/rent. If the cover makes it seem like something similar to that other awesome movie that came out recently, they'll jump at it. Then if it turns out to be something completely different its the movie's fault.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I don't think Hot Girls Wanted showed that the girls were being exploited, I think it just showed the reality of being an "amateur" porn star. You have the chance to make a good amount of money in a short amount of time at the cost of your dignity. I can very easily see someone watching that film and thinking it was for them. Going in knowing it's a short term gig makes you less likely to, pun intended, blow everything up front.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
Action films are great fun. The Guest isn't really fun. The first half was promising, but then it turned into a really bad action film out of nowhere, which would have been much more forgiveable had the action been any good. It was Blacklist level action. Which means not very good.

The lead guy was decent looking though I expect to see more of him.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

stickyfngrdboy posted:

Action films are great fun. The Guest isn't really fun. The first half was promising, but then it turned into a really bad action film out of nowhere, which would have been much more forgiveable had the action been any good. It was Blacklist level action. Which means not very good.

The lead guy was decent looking though I expect to see more of him.

I agree with you that the action in the movie isn't exactly top-notch, but there's barely any in it. For me the "fun" part of the film was the entire first three-quarters of it where you're slowly being clued in to just how hosed up David really is.

Probably my favorite moment was around halfway through right after David has killed the gun-runners and stolen their gigantic stash of guns. At that point I'm thinking "Well, this guys isn't what he seems and he's probably pretty dangerous", but that immediately jumps to an entirely new level a few scenes later when he tells the teenage son that when someone messes with him he should bring a knife to school and go to their house and burn it down with their family inside. Things escalate like that several times during the film, that's what I enjoyed the most.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
This is the thread on every hyped movie https://youtu.be/NpYEJx7PkWE

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

K. Waste posted:

Speaking of said dirtbag agent, this 'take it with a grain of salt' interview post-film has at least one choice quote (http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/hot-girls-wanted-porn-agent/):

So it goes. This is the old adage that it is impossible to make an anti-war film as a "war film", because all war films glorify war. Even filmmakers sometimes naively forget the transformative power of the medium. The magic mirror flatters.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

K. Waste posted:

Speaking of said dirtbag agent, this 'take it with a grain of salt' interview post-film has at least one choice quote (http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/hot-girls-wanted-porn-agent/):

"I thought it was just going to show our silly fun behind the scenes. There's nothing bad or scary about my gross hoarder house."

FLASHBACK TO AN ACTUAL SCENE FROM HOT GIRLS WANTED
*Woman screams from off-camera, followed by sounds of a stuggle. Terrified woman runs into frame*

"Your drunk friend tried to rape me!"

"Haha, yeah" *smiles into camera*
END FLASHBACK

"How could any of this make me look bad?"

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

So it goes. This is the old adage that it is impossible to make an anti-war film as a "war film", because all war films glorify war. Even filmmakers sometimes naively forget the transformative power of the medium. The magic mirror flatters.

This is why I think the following...

Medullah posted:

...I think it just showed the reality of being an "amateur" porn star. You have the chance to make a good amount of money in a short amount of time at the cost of your dignity. I can very easily see someone watching that film and thinking it was for them. Going in knowing it's a short term gig makes you less likely to, pun intended, blow everything up front.

...is kind of a reductive analysis. There is already a plethora of media that depicts porn as basically an industry where young women "have the chance to make a good amount of money in a short amount of time at the cost of [their] dignity"; it's called porn.

On the other hand, there's also a plethora of media that deals extensively in how unrealistic pornography is as a career for both men and women, performers and content-creators, to say nothing of the recursive emphasis on the 'loss of dignity' (which is subjective and fluid over time); and a preponderance of it actually features said performers and content-creators saying explicitly this. The weakest aspect of Hot Girls Wanted is that it once again engages in this kind of 'pop psychology' where the reason these young women go into porn is because they expect it to solve all their short term problems or that they have lofty career goals, this inconspicuous 'allure' that the documentary then needs to 'de-mystify' with spurious and non-specific factual claims, foreboding music, and teary-eyed and blemished faces.

The reality is that neither the girls who have nor the ones who have not seen Hot Girls Wanted are significantly different from one another, or if they are nobody is doing the research into their actual psychology or behavior to substantiate this. Like any industry, success as a porn performer is dependent on pragmatic financial sense, specific long-term goals, interpersonal networking skills, and, most importantly of all, dumb luck. Because who knows why any individual performer captures the imagination of the predominately male porn audience? Hot Girls Wanted merely accepts at uncritical face value the assertion by Riley the dirtbag agent that porn has gone "mainstream"; ergo, that popular culture has been "pornographied" and harms the psychology of young women by leading them to unrealistic fantasies.

But tons of people desire fame, and wealth, and this has very little to do with the idealization of sex. It is not these young women's fantasies that are unrealistic, but society itself. The 'lack of dignity' perceived as endemic to sex work is just a mask for the pervasive lack of dignity within capitalism. You don't need a fanciful, 'pornographied' imagination or lust for stardom to be a sex worker, you just need to consider it preferable to being a clerk.

Jack Gladney posted:

"I thought it was just going to show our silly fun behind the scenes. There's nothing bad or scary about my gross hoarder house."

FLASHBACK TO AN ACTUAL SCENE FROM HOT GIRLS WANTED
*Woman screams from off-camera, followed by sounds of a stuggle. Terrified woman runs into frame*

"Your drunk friend tried to rape me!"

"Haha, yeah" *smiles into camera*
END FLASHBACK

"How could any of this make me look bad?"

What scene are you talking about? I'm fairly certain the one you're referring to is when Riley's dog is jumping on one of the girls and they all joke that he's trying to "rape" her.

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy
Looking over the August list, Enemy at the Gates is a solid WW2 movie if you haven't seen it. It covers an interesting topic of the war that's not usually represented, i.e. not Central Europe/Pacific theater. The occupation of Stalingrad was a bizarre sort of inverse siege.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I haven't watch Hot Girls Wanted but this article kind of made me not want to watch it. It makes it sound like rather than kind of treating the porn industry as a bad industry that can be reformed it just treats it as an inherently bad thing that girls must be rescued from. The problem with this, other than it just being dumb, is that it's basically an abstinence only type approach where easy solutions are overlooked because the only answer it's interested in is "don't do it".

I could be wrong though, because as I said, I haven't actually seen it though.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

fishtobaskets posted:

Looking over the August list, Enemy at the Gates is a solid WW2 movie if you haven't seen it. It covers an interesting topic of the war that's not usually represented, i.e. not Central Europe/Pacific theater. The occupation of Stalingrad was a bizarre sort of inverse siege.

It also has the dirtiest, grossest sex scene ever.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
Watching Hot Girls Wanted is worth seeing if only for the fact that it's probably the first porn documentary - or at least the first in a long time - to present really candid, direct dialog with extremely young and, again, not particularly famous-or-fated-to-be-famous performers discussing their experiences in the industry frankly. There's even a pretty nice twist: It turns out that the only girl in the film still working in the industry is the one who, at the beginning, appears the least confident.

Like, there's nothing wrong or unnecessary about the film's de-mystification of porn. It just wears its neurotic feelings with regards to sex in the media on its sleeve. It directly equates everything from the "Blurred Lines" and "Anaconda" and "Wrecking Ball" music videos with pornography, effectively placing these superficial uses of sex to sell music on the same spectrum as throat-loving porn. It just replaces mystification with more mystification. That review is fairly accurate. It doesn't dispel mythology about porn; it elaborates a counter-mythology that conveniently lets society off the hook for shaming female sexuality under the auspices of paternalistic well-meaning.

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morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
You're Next and The Guest have a sensibility I like and interesting component parts, I just wish someone else had directed them

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