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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Phanatic posted:

A shitload of water in the hydraulic fluid in the upper boost actuators, metal in the hydraulic fluid, and corrosion in the pitch and roll actuators were all implicated.
Hahahaha what a shitshow

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

CuteJen96 posted:

n-n-not there AT-4 SENPAI



That's so süß! (A/N: süß means kawaii)

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Jesus can't believe they stuck the landing if the Chinook was that hosed up

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Larry Parrish posted:

Jesus can't believe they stuck the landing if the Chinook was that hosed up

Honestly I can. While I hated every moment I spent in and around the CH-46, the pilots were loving surgeons with them, I've heard the 47 community is very much the same way, some of the poo poo I've seen them do on liveleak, like hold the ramp on the crest of a mountainside so people can board the helicopter and resting the back wheels on a tall building during heavy winds shows that there's a lot of skill in those dudes.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Helicopter pilots, by virtue of their airframe, have golden hands.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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holocaust bloopers posted:

Helicopter pilots, by virtue of their airframe, have golden hands.

Nah, I was in a 53 squadron and I can tell you, there were plenty of lovely 53 pilots. And a few of my buddies who ended up in Cobra/Venom units claim those two airframes have terrible pilots

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Booblord Zagats posted:

Nah, I was in a 53 squadron and I can tell you, there were plenty of lovely 53 pilots. And a few of my buddies who ended up in Cobra/Venom units claim those two airframes have terrible pilots

At the time I think it was a 160th airplane, and those guys are ridiculously good/insane pilots.

We were testing one of the G-models, flying out of Fort Indiantown Gap, 160th pilot in the right seat, company pilot in the left. They fly the test, next week I'm puttering around in the ground data station room while our little old lady of a data engineer is playing the tape back, so the ICS audio is playing on the speakers. Pilot's telling everyone "Hey, look at that little pond down there. That's really pretty, that looks like a perfect spot to dump a dead hooker."

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Phanatic posted:

At the time I think it was a 160th airplane, and those guys are ridiculously good/insane pilots.

We were testing one of the G-models, flying out of Fort Indiantown Gap, 160th pilot in the right seat, company pilot in the left. They fly the test, next week I'm puttering around in the ground data station room while our little old lady of a data engineer is playing the tape back, so the ICS audio is playing on the speakers. Pilot's telling everyone "Hey, look at that little pond down there. That's really pretty, that looks like a perfect spot to dump a dead hooker."

Yeah, that's about right for the people you meet at Indiantown Gap.

I hope that place burns down.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Booblord Zagats posted:

Honestly I can. While I hated every moment I spent in and around the CH-46, the pilots were loving surgeons with them, I've heard the 47 community is very much the same way, some of the poo poo I've seen them do on liveleak, like hold the ramp on the crest of a mountainside so people can board the helicopter and resting the back wheels on a tall building during heavy winds shows that there's a lot of skill in those dudes.

I was amazed flying with my friend at how the pilots, who can't see ANYTHING during those maneuvers, fly based off the instructions of their crew - the E3s and E4s leaning halfway out of the sides & back and calling "down one" and "back three" on the radio. As in, feet. And they did it. Good shithook pilots are the best.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Booblord Zagats posted:

Nah, I was in a 53 squadron and I can tell you, there were plenty of lovely 53 pilots. And a few of my buddies who ended up in Cobra/Venom units claim those two airframes have terrible pilots

One of my friends went Cobras for the USMC when we graduated in 2005. After spending most of the last 10 years at the tip of the spear he's in Texas as a flight instructor now until his contract runs out and more afraid for his life than he ever was over there.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Zeris posted:

I was amazed flying with my friend at how the pilots, who can't see ANYTHING during those maneuvers, fly based off the instructions of their crew - the E3s and E4s leaning halfway out of the sides & back and calling "down one" and "back three" on the radio. As in, feet. And they did it. Good shithook pilots are the best.

Yeah, it seems the shittier the airframe the better it makes pilots. Makes sense that guys who fly something thats actively trying to murder them would have better control of the platform.

So maybe thats the theory the DoD/Lockheed guys are going with the F35

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Booblord Zagats posted:

Yeah, it seems the shittier the airframe the better it makes pilots.

Counterpoint: Kiowas.

Kiowa pilots are the annoying friend we all had in middle school who just had to lie and tell the worst stories about what he did after school, and ignored everyone's failure to take him seriously.

I have never seen an army sub-community more in denial at their lack of ability to contribute to the wars in Iraq/Aghanistan. Even chemical officers are resigned to their fate as the USR bitch (or whatever that spreadsheet pain-orgy was called). Field artillery becomes infantry or intel. MPs become detainee abuse SMEs.

But kiowa pilots, no, they put on their stetsons, fire their 9mils out the window and splooge a whooping 8 rockets and/or 300 rounds of .50cal poorly aimed by grease-pencil reticle drawn on their windshield interior (I am not making this up), assuming they haven't already gone bingo fuel thanks to hauling a franksteined-airframe with CMWS and useless FLIR, nearly doubled in weight in unironic yet unintentional homage to the Pentagon Wars, only to come back to base with their erection in one hand and a dip bottle in the other bragging to me about how they killed "about" 15 Talibans and "probably saved" the ground guys (actually, not implausible once 3rd BCT 25th ID rotated in).

And, like all actually good ideas, (army-wide multicam, etc.) Kiowas are only now being phased out of existence, to be replaced by more apaches.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.




One of my favorite Mil pictures right here

Also some crazy pictures here

http://gotmysecondwind.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-fall-of-saigon.html?m=1

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.



:stonk:

foozwak
Apr 8, 2005

Something about that looked seriously off, and yep:

awesome-express
Dec 30, 2008

edit: nvm pic didn't fully load lol

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

lmao welp

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


Quick! Whats the name of the site that makes pictures in to memes.. I wanna start some poo poo on Info Wars Facebook.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
Facebook and info wars are pretty much the same thing anyway :shrug:

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Yeah, that's about right for the people you meet at Indiantown Gap.

I hope that place burns down.

Nah, that was the SOAR pilot, we were just operating out of the Gap.

I grew up around there, place is a nightmare. And now it has a casino.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Phanatic posted:

Nah, that was the SOAR pilot, we were just operating out of the Gap.

I grew up around there, place is a nightmare. And now it has a casino.

Went there for drill and AT many times. I could die a happy man this very second if FTIG burned to the ground first.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

i lucked the gently caress out by not having to go to FIG before my deployment for retraining.

we had about 15 people who had to go for about a month, when we met back up with them we heard nothing but horror stories

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



foozwak posted:

Something about that looked seriously off, and yep:



lol dumbass pilot deserves to have his face eaten. Why the gently caress would you fly within jumping distance of a literal tower of zombies anyways?

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
Because dumb zombie movie watered down enough to get a lower rating so idiot tweens and teens can watch it and talk about HOW AWESOME IT WAS OH MAN I WISH THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE WOULD COME and then I'd be all like pew pew ur ded.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I thought the Jew soldier girl was cute.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

holocaust bloopers posted:

I thought the Jew soldier girl was cute.

would

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
I like how after fifty years of killing Palestinians the Jews somehow decide to be nice and let them in when zombies happen and then get totally hosed for it.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Mike-o posted:

I like how after fifty years of killing Palestinians the Jews somehow decide to be nice and let them in when zombies happen and then get totally hosed for it.

Hollywood has never been known for its subtlety

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.



Hey.. Whats this button do?

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Hrvza9FkM

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Phanatic posted:

This happened at a hangar we test of just a month or so ago, foam up to the engines on the -47s. No idea if the contractor ever figured out what set the system off, it wasn't a test, it just discharged without warning.

The AF (and I think all DoD?) is taking a serious look about deactivating the auto-sensors for foam fire suppression systems in aircraft hangars, mostly because so far their historic record is:

- Fires put out: 0

- Inadvertent discharges: a whole bunch

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

iyaayas01 posted:

The AF (and I think all DoD?) is taking a serious look about deactivating the auto-sensors for foam fire suppression systems in aircraft hangars, mostly because so far their historic record is:

- Fires put out: 0

- Inadvertent discharges: a whole bunch

Are hangars filled with multiple multi-million dollar planes ever abandoned to the point where a sentry couldn't pull a fire handle?

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

bitcoin bastard posted:

Are hangars filled with multiple multi-million dollar planes ever abandoned to the point where a sentry couldn't pull a fire handle?

On the weekends/down days, maybe...although that presumes there's no weekend duty and outside of a very small number of MDS's lol good loving luck with that not happening. And even then, if the planes are buttoned up tight for the weekend it's highly unlikely that one is just going to spontaneously combust...bad poo poo (like things catching on fire) happens when (usually stupid) people are doing (usually wrong) things to the plane.

So yeah, when work is actively being accomplished in the hangar in pretty much any plausible scenario someone is going to be able to get to a fire handle a mere matter of seconds after whatever thing happened to cause a fire to start. Hence why they're seriously looking at that, basically making them all manual pull only.

e: Although to be clear the idea behind the auto-sensors wasn't so much for when no one was around, it was for getting a jump on the fire by presumably detecting the ignition very close to when it happened. Unfortunately these systems tend to have a whole bunch of false positives or will just go off for no reason at all.

iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Aug 6, 2015

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
That reminds me of how often the barrier sensors tripped in Elmendorf around the AWACS hangar. One dude got stuck for 45 minutes in the fence in ECP while the cops cleared the building. It was -15 degrees.

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


:fsmug: Murica :fsmug:

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Fire detectors can trip on smoke, heat, IR or some type of detection magic I don't even know about. Ships and plants I've worked in tend to trip on heat when ambient gets to 120-150+. IR detectors will trip if you weld around them depending on how senesitive they are and smoke takes a lot of smoke to trip. Usually to set the high pressure water mist thing off they require at least two sensors to trip at once, sometimes under different parameters or whatever. Thank god I've never had one of those accidentally trip.

CO2/Halon I haven't seen many auto trips and are almost always manual.

When a detector goes it usually sets off an alarm going to a control unit that lists location/detector/cause so all trips are traceable. There's no such thing as a mystery fault unless you are running a system that's so old and complex it doesn't work right.

Jimmy Smuts
Aug 8, 2000

lightpole posted:

unless you are running a system that's so old and complex it doesn't work right.
Well, this is the US military after all..

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
If you get an abrams fire suppression system that is plagued by electrical demons you might as well just throw the prick into the ocean.

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CuteJen96
Feb 23, 2015

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 2 years!)

Whoops wrong thread lol. Pretend it was a sweet F-111

CuteJen96 fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Aug 6, 2015

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