The Gorp posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfk3tOJjaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PACuKeClDCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_muxmqphN8

It's not all applicable, but this series is a good series with a lot of things that carry over.
Telling us your favorite character can let us help you with specifics.

Specifically this is biased off Street Fighter, so being above the opponent is generally a disadvantage due to your inability to change your movement mid-jump (outside of Vladimir) as well as the inability to block. Don't worry too much about the specifics like move names and more about the larger picture.

Fruitsnacks posted:

Some fighting game terminology: http://sonichurricane.com/articles/sfterms.html.

Really old but informative Street Fighter tutorial: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

If you want to know anything else, ask questions and be specific. Like instead of "I didn't win a single game last night, how do I get better?" you should tell us the character you play, the characters you played against, things your opponents were doing that gave you trouble, and so on.

Mintergalactic posted:

I'm telling you man, autocombo

Noobs wouldn't complain about not being able to do damage and experienced players could learn better routes

Shukaro posted:

Or I could just not care about this kinda lovely alpha fighting game instead. Y'know since I was just wondering why "accessible fighter" needed you to mash out/time normal combos instead of having an "accessible" normal combo setup like you would expect.


1/12th of a second is in fact small. It really is fighting game nerds.

Geektox posted:

Sweet, I'll give these a go-over. I just downloaded the game today and played a few matches, and I'm really liking Edge, probably because he's my countrymen (tho I still have no idea what he's saying half the time) but I managed to pull off the Gamma->Super thing someone posted a couple pages back and got a couple of Down+Heavy->Alphas which managed to net me my first winning round, against a Legend Tier 1 no less.

Lost every round thereafter, however. I also have zero contribution to this current discussion because I don't even know what a link is.

Any other cool combos for Edge I should know about? Also I seem to have lost the most badly to Talos and Edge, and least badly to Dauntless and Chel, if that helps.

Nativity In Black posted:

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Let's get this out of the way first: links exist in fighting games as a consequence of moves being designed in parts - startup, active, and recovery frames, plus the number of frames of hitstun they cause. The only ways to remove links from the equation are to make all moves too slow to combo after your fastest recovery move, make all moves recover too slow for your fastest startup move to combo, make hitstun low to nonexistant (this is a common complaint with SSB brawl), or specifically code the game to not allow normals to link when your character returns to a neutral state (NRS does this in MK and Injustice).

The question you really should be asking is why they made links important to optimal combos and/or BnBs in this game. The answer probably is just that they made most/all of the links wide enough (or added a buffer to help hit smaller frame windows of links) that they felt it was justified. It does not take much practice at all to muscle memory a three frame link in a game like SF4, and Rising Thunder apparently has a buffer to provide you an even wider margin of error, so if that is still not enough for you, maybe the genre is just not for you.

If chains are all you have the stomach for in fighters, there are options. You can get by on chains alone in games like MK, Injustice, and even some anime fighters like UNIEL and Skullgirls, but in all cases you will also still have timing windows to hit after the chains (for connecting juggles, for instance).

NecroMonster posted:

It's not a design choice to have links

the design choice in this case was to make the links really really really easy

NecroMonster posted:

it's not really a design choice to not put something in a game man dude person dog buddy

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

Honestly, Shukaro, if you spent the time it took you to make your 16 posts in this thread in training practicing your character(s) important link(s), you'd probably have several of them down at a solid success rate already.

Spermgod posted:

ur really loving stupid

AndyElusive posted:

Please consider reading this post by SN64 again.

NecroMonster posted:

I for one am glad the developers made the design choice to not put resource mining, character advancement, and capture the flag into this fighting game

Shukaro posted:

actually the design choice was to omit simple normal chaining or some other similar mechanic

A.o.D. posted:

New patch, still can't run this game. I'm going to ignore it for a while and hopefully when I remember it exists, it'll work.

Chucat posted:

Marvel 1 did this as well, everyone was a winner.

Zand posted:

but people that complain about poo poo like not being able to do a combo will just complain about something else once combos are handed to them. these are bads, and they are called bads for a reason. they will always find something to excuse their poor performance. catering to trash tier bads brings poo poo players to the table that wont stick around or ever be worth poo poo.

it doesn't really matter what they do, anyway, because RT is just a lovely alpha/tech demo of ggpo3 they threw together so they can attract an angel investor, cash out and be done with it.

bhsman posted:

Shukaro I don't want to dogpile on you with everyone else, but I really do recommend just practicing the links in training mode; a good way to do this is with practice 'laps' where you practice the combo while slowly pushing the opponent across the stage - back and forth. Spending time getting into a flame war in this thread instead of practicing just isn't constructive.