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Disharmony posted:Jonathan is the leader of Les Enfants who got his fingers shot and uses a katana to decapitate Cassidy. He winds up with a katana up his rear end, doesn't he?
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prefect posted:Doom is definitely #2, and Stark wouldn't have been on that list before his movies made so much money. Nah. The concept of some of these guys being the best and brightest in the world goes back to at least 1996.
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Endless Mike posted:Well, Pym claimed that with him back on Earth from Skrull captivity, Cho is the 8th, but that doesn't really track, since Skrull Pym *was* Pym as far as everyone was aware, so the list is something like: Franklin Richards is ATLEAST #2
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Somebody check your issues of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe to see Iron Man's 90's stats. I bet he was as smart as Spider-Man, who seems to have gotten dumber since all those movies about him as a teenager.
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Booblord Zagats posted:Franklin Richards is ATLEAST #2 Not kid Franklin. Even adult Franklin isn't super-intelligent - certainly not on the level of his father or sister - he's more super-powerful with tons of experience with things. EDIT: Marvel.com has Iron Man with a 6/7 in Intelligence. http://marvel.com/universe/Iron_man EDIT 2: I guess Franklin is a 7/7, so never mind what I said above! http://marvel.com/universe/Richards,_Franklin Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Maybe he meant Nathaniel Richards?
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Rhyno posted:Maybe he meant Nathaniel Richards? At the points we see adult Franklin in Hickman's books he is pretty clearly very intelligent. I would imagine that's it's something gained through experience more than an innate gift like it is for Valeria though.
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Senor Candle posted:At the points we see adult Franklin in Hickman's books he is pretty clearly very intelligent. I would imagine that's it's something gained through experience more than an innate gift like it is for Valeria though. Everyone lets him get away with everything due to his pet.
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Lot of people in this thread forgetting about Pythagoras Dupree
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zoux posted:What about the head of AIM Sunspot's not that smart.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Sunspot's not that smart. He means MODOL Mechanized Organism Designed Only for Learning
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WickedHate posted:Darkseid is overrated. Not as much as the Joker, but Jesus Christ, I want to see him get the smug smile punched off his face some more. He's so unflappable. A good villian falls from their heights. Can anyone say anything to the merits of Annihilus, Crossbones or Morgan le Fay (Marvel version) as to why they're interesting at all? Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Everblight posted:my podcast is recording our lightning round episodes tonight for the "Best Comic Book Villain", Marvel conference. And I am struggling to find something interesting to say about some of them. I didn't create the bracket itself, so there are a few guys missing I'd like to have (Fin Fang Foom!) and a few guys there I don't care about (Kree High Intelligence) Annihilus has the Annihilus wave and was part of one of the best Marvel crossovers and was part of the amazing issues in which Peter and Johnny were roommates. Crossbones is super loyal to Red Skull and Sin. He was part of the plot to kill Captain America and he is an all around good number 2.
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Annihilus only invaded the 616 because the 616 universe is expanding into the Negative Zone and he just wanted to keep his people's rightful territories. We was also democratically elected to lead the Negative Zone with 14,980,336,901,214 votes as a write in candidate. See FF 18.
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Uthor posted:Annihilus only invaded the 616 because the 616 universe is expanding into the Negative Zone and he just wanted to keep his people's rightful territories. He's also house trained!
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Everblight posted:Can anyone say anything to the merits of Annihilus, Crossbones or Morgan le Fay (Marvel version) as to why they're interesting at all? Annihilus is THE LIVING DEATH THAT WALKS and wields THE COSMIC CONTROL ROD.
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Jack Gladney posted:Somebody check your issues of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe to see Iron Man's 90's stats. I bet he was as smart as Spider-Man, who seems to have gotten dumber since all those movies about him as a teenager.  
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The Spider-Man one says Single and then Married right after.
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I could have sworn that Spider-Man had Remarkable Reason. And higher Intuition, too.
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Aphrodite posted:The Spider-Man one says Single and then Married right after. Well, that's one way to resolve all the complaints about One More Day.
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Some video game really needs to license FASERIP as their stat system.
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prefect posted:And higher Intuition, too. Yeah, you'd think spider-sense would give him that.
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Endless Mike posted:Some video game really needs to license FASERIP as their stat system. Hasbro bought Wizards of the Coast who bought TSR who co-developed the stat system right? That would explain why Optimus Prime is so obsessed with faces in the Bay films.
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Endless Mike posted:Some video game really needs to license FASERIP as their stat system.
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Would somebody be so good as to explain what each of F A S E R I P stands for, and also the ratings? Cheers.
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"Spider-Man can adhere to vertical and upside-down surfaces with Amazing ability." Is there a grog out there who has run a game based on this, and ruled that Spider-Man could not cling to a diagonal surface? That would be amazing (Amazing).
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Kinda sucks the 7 smartest people in the world spend their time dressing in costumes and throwing lasers or tanks at each other. hosed up world.
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Who's the smartest adult grown woman in the Marvel universe?
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zoux posted:Who's the smartest adult grown woman in the Marvel universe? How do we measure her intelligence? Like, how fast she can clean a house, how many types of sandwich she can make?
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zoux posted:Who's the smartest adult grown woman in the Marvel universe?  There just aren't many adult female characters defined by their super-smarts, even though there are many many obviously smart Marvel ladies (Kitty, Moira MacTaggart, Viper/Madame Hydra, She-Hulk, etc). After Valeria, who doesn't count, nobody really stands out based on that one characteristic. redbackground fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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I guess maybe that doctor that invented the mutant cure and ended up on the X-science team? Sue Storm in Ultimate though. She's just average intelligence in 616 right?
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Proooooobably Kavita Rao.
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zoux posted:I guess maybe that doctor that invented the mutant cure and ended up on the X-science team? When Stan Lee was writing her she'd almost get hit by cars because she forgot she was invisible. So maybe a bit below average then.
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Endless Mike posted:Proooooobably Kavita Rao. So previously maybe Moira?
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zoux posted:Who's the smartest adult grown woman in the Marvel universe? Superia was supposed to be a Marvel female super villain genuis on par with the Leader et all. (Though her plans were a little iffy. Improve women's role in the Marvel Universe by forcefully sterilising everyone except a small group of female villains. Turning Paladin and Captain America into Women so they'd be loyal to her.) She was a part of AIM's High Council. There's also Dr. Nightshade, a female Black Panther villain who specialises in serums that turn people into Werewolves and stuff.
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Unmature posted:When Stan Lee was writing her she'd almost get hit by cars because she forgot she was invisible. So maybe a bit below average then. Nah, here she is flummoxing even the great Reed Richards: 
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Aphrodite posted:The Spider-Man one says Single and then Married right after. Well after he made that deal with Mephisto, the marriage was retconned. So this sourcebook written in the 80's was effected by the time change.
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Skwirl posted:Wasn't AIM headed by a woman for a while? Yep! Monica Rappaccini, who I can only really remember as MODOK's ex, which is really pretty disappointing for 'only significant character trait'.
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Skwirl posted:Wasn't AIM headed by a woman for a while? That was Monica Rappaccini. The mother of the female Scorpion*. Fun fact, Scorpion's dad is probably Bruce Banner. (But was originally supposed to be the child of Viper and the Silver Samurai.) She is based on this classic story. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rappaccini%27s_Daughter *= Note the female Scorpion is not to be confused with Scopria. Who is the Scorpion, but female.
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