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Deadpool, at its heart, is about an emotionally disturbed, sociopathic killer who uses comedy for levity and to subvert a lot of tired comic tropes (hence the fourth wall breaking, which was really novel when he started doing it). He was always best when written as an incurably insane guy whose use of humor almost seemed kind of pathetic, but still made the character likeable 'cause it was so irreverent and self-effacing. Somewhere along the way this turned into badass ninja lolrandom meme-monster, and I guess there was no real avoiding it. I think where the trailer goes wrong for me is that you should never play him up as being the coolest dude in the room, he's the guy that everyone else in the room loving hates.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 13:51 |
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I've never read a comic and the trailer kind of turns me off but I thought from that horrible Wolverine movie that he was literally formed from a pool of dead mutant juice or something. Was that completely made up for that movie?
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 14:54 |
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Electromax posted:I've never read a comic and the trailer kind of turns me off but I thought from that horrible Wolverine movie that he was literally formed from a pool of dead mutant juice or something. Was that completely made up for that movie? For some reason they tried to contextualize the name in a really hamfisted way, yeah. The only reason he is named Deadpool is because he was a Rob Liefeld character and that presumably sounded very cool to him.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 14:58 |
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They gave it a bit of a backstory after the Liefeld issues where he was one of many terminal patients that Weapon X attempted to give Wolverine healing abilities to, and the staff had a "Dead pool" going to see who would last the longest. Wade won and the name stuck. Doesn't look like they're doing that for this movie which is kind-of puzzling, but whatever it's Fox.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 15:17 |
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PaganGoatPants posted:Not sure why people will think is terrible when this is the exact Deadpool movie people have been asking for. Remember Snakes on a Plane? The internet wants terrible retard movies.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:00 |
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Tormented posted:Remember Snakes on a Plane? The internet wants terrible retard movies. Yes, but as evidenced from Snakes on a Plane, they're not willing to pay for them.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:06 |
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This is Catwoman levels of bad, sheesh.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:11 |
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Snakes on a Plane is a compelling idea and could have been good. The straightforward premise, the blunt title, and the casting of Sam Jackson all got people interested. Turns out that people want an actual good movie though and the film is inept.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:13 |
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FCKGW posted:This is Catwoman levels of bad, sheesh. I take it you haven't watched Catwoman in a while. That movie is in a class of it's own.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:13 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Snakes on a Plane is a compelling idea and could have been good. The straightforward premise, the blunt title, and the casting of Sam Jackson all got people interested. Yeah, Snakes on a Plane was popular at the time it came out but had absolutely no cultural staying power whatsoever.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:29 |
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I thought the story was that it was popular right up until it came out, and then nobody went to see it, but I don't know if it legit underperformed.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:45 |
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I've never even heard of Deadpool before, but everything about that trailer looks really dated. A quippy cool superhero; Ryan Reynolds as a leading man; DMX; obviously filming in Vancouver. It's like we're in the mid-2000s again.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:49 |
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Mr. Squishy posted:I thought the story was that it was popular right up until it came out, and then nobody went to see it, but I don't know if it legit underperformed. It legit underperformed, at 15 million opening weekend, and it was not liked. It got a B- Cinemascore. People didn't like the movie. They were *very* intrigued and engaged with the concept before opening, but once the film was out and known to be bland it was doomed.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:50 |
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MeinPanzer posted:I've never even heard of Deadpool before, but everything about that trailer looks really dated. A quippy cool superhero; Ryan Reynolds as a leading man; DMX; obviously filming in Vancouver. It's like we're in the mid-2000s again. You can tell its a modern movie because Ed Skrien and his ridiculously punchable face are in it. (I agree otherwise, though. Rosie O'Donell joke? What?)
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:51 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Snakes on a Plane is a compelling idea and could have been good. The straightforward premise, the blunt title, and the casting of Sam Jackson all got people interested. Snakes on a Plane got meme'd before it even came out. If it had been a purposeful trainwreck like Sharknado or something maybe it could have had some influence, but it just ended up being a boring slog. I feel like it didn't go far enough down the syfy original rabbit hole of insanity to justify itself.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 17:45 |
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Wandle Cax posted:If you've seen Green Lantern, the suit is bad looking CG. Yeah, but to call something within the movie 'animated' doesn't make much sense. Even if you're making 4th wall breaking jokes, "don't make it CG" would seem more sensical. I'm feeling like a dick typing this.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 17:54 |
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It's pedantic semantics
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 17:55 |
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Maybe he was going deep and making a reference to the animated superman suit in the doomed Nic Cage/Tim Burton movie?
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 18:47 |
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MeinPanzer posted:I've never even heard of Deadpool before, but everything about that trailer looks really dated. A quippy cool superhero; Ryan Reynolds as a leading man; DMX; obviously filming in Vancouver. It's like we're in the mid-2000s again. Exactly how I felt
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 19:46 |
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It's 2015, so why is Ryan Reynolds still being cast in leading roles? It just doesn't work.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 22:19 |
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Jack's Flow posted:It's 2015, so why is Ryan Reynolds still being cast in leading roles? It just doesn't work. Ryan Reynolds is one reason the Deadpool movie is even happening.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 01:35 |
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I will say that Reynolds' Deadpool voice is pretty drat close to what I imagined Deadpool's voice would sound like - high-pitched, a bit dorky, kinda like an ADHD kid. and the costume is the most comic accurate costume ever.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 04:18 |
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Ryan Reynolds has never been the issue in movies for me. Like, Green lantern? Reynolds was not the big problem in that movie..
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 09:56 |
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Zzulu posted:Ryan Reynolds has never been the issue in movies for me. Like, Green lantern? Reynolds was not the big problem in that movie.. On that same token he's never been the appeal either
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 10:29 |
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davidspackage posted:Yeah, but to call something within the movie 'animated' doesn't make much sense. Even if you're making 4th wall breaking jokes, "don't make it CG" would seem more sensical. I'm feeling like a dick typing this. They were probably worried "CG" wouldn't parse with most people. "See gee?" Rather than leaving the joke out entirely, they arrived at the sad compromise of "animated".
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 15:04 |
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Trailer for Roland Emmerich's Stonewall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNXkJMXPBGc
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 15:23 |
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bows1 posted:Trailer for Roland Emmerich's Stonewall This looks good and also like the exact opposite of anything Emmerich's ever done.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 16:52 |
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:This looks good and also like the exact opposite of anything Emmerich's ever done. e: Reading the comments, the movie is apparently whitewashing the poo poo out of real story, so he really should have just made a disaster movie where the disaster is gay liberation, turning a drab and gray city into a fabulous rainbow colored one. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Hakkesshu posted:On that same token he's never been the appeal either Blade: Trinity.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 19:33 |
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kiimo posted:Blade: Trinity. Hahaha
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 20:00 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:e: Reading the comments, the movie is apparently whitewashing the poo poo out of real story, so he really should have just made a disaster movie where the disaster is gay liberation, turning a drab and gray city into a fabulous rainbow colored one. Yeah, people are (rightfully) pretty pissed off that the real Stonewall riots were started by trans women of colour and drag queens, and now in the movie it's some milquetoast white dude.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 20:15 |
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Hakkesshu posted:Hahaha He is genuinely one of the very few things in that movie that is actually decent.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 00:29 |
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VIN DIESEL just being himself in THE LAST WITCH HUNTER (Elijah Wood, Michael Caine, Rose Leslie) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsuG2JUgs_8
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 03:03 |
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That looks dumb as hell, and I'd never usually see a movie like that, but I kinda want to see it. Vin Diesel aggressively not acting is compellingly hilarious.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 03:09 |
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I'll watch it if it's anything like Riddick or XXX.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 03:12 |
God it's really weird seeing Vin Diesel with hair.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 03:15 |
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GrandpaPants posted:God it's really weird seeing Vin Diesel with hair. What planet?!
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 03:23 |
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I love Diesel immediately using his cache to get deep-nerd crap no one wants to see funded every time he has it
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 04:47 |
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Good then remake Enemy Mine with, I don't know, Charlie Hunnam.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 05:04 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 08:15 |
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kiimo posted:I never read the Fantastic Four comic books, so excuse me if this sounds naiive but is it just me or is that whole series just plain old bad? I watched the first one and it sucked and this one looks ten times worse. I'm kind of thinking the only good thing to come out of FF is a couple episodes of Venture Bros. Quoting myself because this POS is running in at 9% on the tomato meter so I'm happy to say I haven't completely lost the ability to discern garbage yet. edit: sorry for the double post.
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