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coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

Well no matter what at least I have heard about this film now and will try to watch this somehow.
Holy poo poo. If Six String Samurai is up then yeah, it's worth watching. Fun movie, great indie band cameos, amazing soundtrack, fun (if low budget) aesthetic.

In terms of low budget indie flicks involving post-apoc mutants and samurai swords, you can't get better. Without irony, this is the top of the heap.

And who doesn't love a good ska dose from the Red Elvises!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9sD4kLh7ic

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alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


coyo7e posted:

Holy poo poo. If Six String Samurai is up then yeah, it's worth watching. Fun movie, great indie band cameos, amazing soundtrack, fun (if low budget) aesthetic.

In terms of low budget indie flicks involving post-apoc mutants and samurai swords, you can't get better. Without irony, this is the top of the heap.

And who doesn't love a good ska dose from the Red Elvises!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9sD4kLh7ic

It's up on Fandor, which seems to have odd indie films and whatnot. Wasn't on US Netflix

Also I think if you're 1/3 through Dust Devil and it hasn't hooked you yet, it probably won't. I didn't mind it, but it's hardly must-see.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

precision posted:

Dust Devil is actually very, very good. It stars the incredibly underrated Robert John Burke (Robocop 2, many Hal Hartley movies)
This threw me for a loop because I couldn't place him from pictures. He is not in Robocop 2, he is Robo in the atrocious Robocop 3. I don't know how that is supposed to be a good thing.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
poo poo, even Obama knows not to try for a third one.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

precision posted:

Dust Devil is actually very, very good. It stars the incredibly underrated Robert John Burke (Robocop 2, many Hal Hartley movies)

Actually it stars Zakes Mokae.

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Someone once told me, "Time is a flat circle".
Watched Faults over the weekend. It's a good, straightforward thriller about a down and out cult researcher trying to deprogram a couple's young daughter. Not groundbreaking, but it had a few twists and turns, and Leland Orsner does a good job as the mentally fragile lead. I kinda saw the ending coming, but the leadup to the climax was vague enough to keep you interested. However, it nicely wraps everything up at the end.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

david_a posted:

This threw me for a loop because I couldn't place him from pictures. He is not in Robocop 2, he is Robo in the atrocious Robocop 3. I don't know how that is supposed to be a good thing.

It's not supposed to be a good thing, it's just a weird bit of trivia that this great character actor, best known for starring in beloved auteur films The Unbelievable Truth and Simple Men, was also Robocop the third.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Actually it stars Zakes Mokae.

Touché

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

precision posted:

I'd say give the first episode or two a shot. It's quite a bit more... well, just more than the movie. It's hard to explain.

I'm not getting the handful of complaints about the show. From the first two episodes it's exactly like the movie, for better or worse. I loved the movie, and I'd say the ratio of jokes that do work, jokes that don't work, and non-jokey exposition are about the same.

But I could see where if someone didn't like the movie at all or were kind of on the fence they wouldn't like the series.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I tried out Fandor based on the fact that they have Six String Samurai and... holy poo poo they have a lot of good stuff. There are like 20 classic punk films/documentaries, including In the Beginning Was the End (the Devo movie from 1976) and The Blank Generation (1980 punk movie with Richard Hell).

They also appear to have a fuckton of foreign movies.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

precision posted:

I tried out Fandor based on the fact that they have Six String Samurai and... holy poo poo they have a lot of good stuff. There are like 20 classic punk films/documentaries, including In the Beginning Was the End (the Devo movie from 1976) and The Blank Generation (1980 punk movie with Richard Hell).

They also appear to have a fuckton of foreign movies.

I will have to check this out...

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
The Wrecking Crew is a fantastic music documentary

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
Thief pretty much rules. I wish Bad Lieutenant was streaming so I could double feature it with that.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

K. Waste posted:

Thief pretty much rules. I wish Bad Lieutenant was streaming so I could double feature it with that.

The Pope of Greenwich Village is on Netflix and would make a good double with Thief.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

K. Waste posted:

Thief pretty much rules. I wish Bad Lieutenant was streaming so I could double feature it with that.

Too bad Walter Hill's The Driver isn't up there.

Ben Solo
Oct 23, 2004

I take care of the place while the Master is away.
I noticed tonight that without much fanfare, a gorgeous, uncut HD version of Come Drink With Me (1966) popped up on Netflix last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1A6PnPZ6Gk

A bona fide classic that sent the Shaw Brothers into the big time and redefined Kung Fu movies for the next several decades. A female knight teams up with a drunken master to defeat the renegade, meat-eating monk that kidnapped her brother... need I mention it's full of violence and highly entertaining? Hope this means we'll get more Shaw movies on Netflix in the near future.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I haven't seen it mentioned that The Skeleton Twins is on Netflix now.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
The Skeleton Twins is real good. People should watch it.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Seconded. Not quite what I expected, very, very good.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Do I have to watch the 1996 Island of Dr Moreau to enjoy Lost Soul? I first saw Best Worst Movie before Troll 2 (back-to-back at a film festival) and it was still very enjoyable.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

david_a posted:

Do I have to watch the 1996 Island of Dr Moreau to enjoy Lost Soul? I first saw Best Worst Movie before Troll 2 (back-to-back at a film festival) and it was still very enjoyable.

I've never seen the 1996 Dr. Moreau in its entirety, but I found Lost Soul completely fascinating. Also I had never heard of Richard Stanley before.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

david_a posted:

Do I have to watch the 1996 Island of Dr Moreau to enjoy Lost Soul? I first saw Best Worst Movie before Troll 2 (back-to-back at a film festival) and it was still very enjoyable.

No, not at all. In fact it's probably better if you haven't because then you will have much stronger "What the... loving seriously?!" reactions. The stuff that made it to the screen is just as loving weird as the behind the scenes weirdness.


neonnoodle posted:

I've never seen the 1996 Dr. Moreau in its entirety, but I found Lost Soul completely fascinating. Also I had never heard of Richard Stanley before.

Hardware and Dust Devil are both on Netflix and both pretty drat great imo.

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.

Ben Solo posted:

I noticed tonight that without much fanfare, a gorgeous, uncut HD version of Come Drink With Me (1966) popped up on Netflix last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1A6PnPZ6Gk

A bona fide classic that sent the Shaw Brothers into the big time and redefined Kung Fu movies for the next several decades. A female knight teams up with a drunken master to defeat the renegade, meat-eating monk that kidnapped her brother... need I mention it's full of violence and highly entertaining? Hope this means we'll get more Shaw movies on Netflix in the near future.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

People, call in tomorrow and watch this all night.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

david_a posted:

Do I have to watch the 1996 Island of Dr Moreau to enjoy Lost Soul? I first saw Best Worst Movie before Troll 2 (back-to-back at a film festival) and it was still very enjoyable.

I watched Lost Soul tonight and can confirm that you need no knowledge of the film to appreciate that fantastic documentary. I've never seen the film and knew nothing of its repuatation. There are a series of strange events that start happening midway through the documentary that are mind-blowing, and I imagine they wouldn't have hit as hard if I had gone in knowing about all the weird poo poo that ended up in the film, as the poster above pointed out.

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

I fell like everybody should watch Wing Commander. It's not a good movie by any stretch of the imagination. Quite to the contrary it deserves a place in the Hall of Fame of some future version of Mystery Science Theater. However, it is fascinating how unbelievably absurd the movie is. There are three things you need to know about Wing Commander:
1. The sound effect they use for the enemy fighters is a slightly modified version of that stock WW2 dive bomber sound effect you've heard in every WW2 documentary ever.
2. There is a sequence where the entire crew of the ship has to remain deathly silent as an enemy destroyer passes overhead and pings away searching for them with it's sonar.
3. The entire movie takes place in space.
Seriously, the entire movie comes across like the entire production crew really wanted to make a WW2 movie, so they petulantly went ahead and made that movie, then half-assed some poo poo they could slap onto to it so they could use the Wing Commander license. George Lucas, when he made Star Wars, ripped off wholesale some action sequences from some WW2 movies. When they made Wing Commander they failed at ripping off George Lucas' idea of ripping off action sequences from WW2 movies, and it is a glorious trainwreck to behold.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost
The oddest aspect is the movie was written and directed by Chris Roberts who was the brain behind all the games and yet the movie is some weird alt-version of the games where everything is slightly wrong.

Like, it feels exactly like an adaptation by someone with no familiarity with the source material.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Wing Commander is also weird because of that Matthew Lillard/Jake Busey mindfuck that happened when it and Starship Troopers came out at the same time.

space-man
Jan 3, 2007
a man, like any other... but in space!

Jack Gladney posted:

Wing Commander is also weird because of that Matthew Lillard/Jake Busey mindfuck that happened when it and Starship Troopers came out at the same time.

Read this and was like weird, I wonder if he's saying that theres an actor in Starship Troopers that is related to Gary Busey.
Hmmm, I wonder who that could possibly be...

Then in my head they smiled.

I honestly never knew they were related and now I can't figure out how I never saw the link.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

nevermind

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Simplex posted:

I fell like everybody should watch Wing Commander. It's not a good movie by any stretch of the imagination. Quite to the contrary it deserves a place in the Hall of Fame of some future version of Mystery Science Theater. However, it is fascinating how unbelievably absurd the movie is. There are three things you need to know about Wing Commander:
1. The sound effect they use for the enemy fighters is a slightly modified version of that stock WW2 dive bomber sound effect you've heard in every WW2 documentary ever.
2. There is a sequence where the entire crew of the ship has to remain deathly silent as an enemy destroyer passes overhead and pings away searching for them with it's sonar.
3. The entire movie takes place in space.
Seriously, the entire movie comes across like the entire production crew really wanted to make a WW2 movie, so they petulantly went ahead and made that movie, then half-assed some poo poo they could slap onto to it so they could use the Wing Commander license. George Lucas, when he made Star Wars, ripped off wholesale some action sequences from some WW2 movies. When they made Wing Commander they failed at ripping off George Lucas' idea of ripping off action sequences from WW2 movies, and it is a glorious trainwreck to behold.
4. Jürgen Prochnow is in the movie reprising his role from Das Boot.
5. At one point a damaged fighter crashes on the flight deck (in space). They roll out the space bulldozer, and it pushes the fighter over the side, where it falls down off the side. In space.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Don't the fighters also dip down slightly after launching from the deck?

Paper Kaiju
Dec 5, 2010

atomic breadth

space-man posted:

Read this and was like weird, I wonder if he's saying that theres an actor in Starship Troopers that is related to Gary Busey.
Hmmm, I wonder who that could possibly be...

Then in my head they smiled.

I honestly never knew they were related and now I can't figure out how I never saw the link.

I had a similar experience watching the Rifftrax Live for Starship Troopers. Before the movie even started, they mention the fact that Gary Busey's son was in the film. I hadn't seen the film in over a decade as a teenager, so all I could remember were the special effects and tit shots. So I thinking he's probably a minor character or something, like Neil Patrick Harris', and wonder if they'll point him out when he appears or if I'll be able to spot him myself.

Boot Camp scene begins, and the moment Jake Busey's face is on screen I'm like "Whoa! Those are some powerful genetics at work, there."

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Want to share my enjoyment of The Guest.
Low-rent Ryan Gosling in a low-rent kinda Drive that goes absolutely bonkers in the last act. It was a lot of fun, no surprise to find it was made by the "You're Next" guy.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
However you feel about the industry as a whole, Hot Girls Wanted shows women being exploited willingly yet unknowingly. The expectations of money and fame are met with the harsh realities of nearly all-consuming expenses and a modern porn industry that hardly creates any more "stars". The film's attempts to connect the objectification and sexualization of women in mainstream media to the aberration of women who decide to enter such a shady part of this industry is it's weakest point. There is little to glean from Hot Girls Wanted, beyond the fact that young people sometimes make stupid choices.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Lost Soul was pretty cool and, like everyone said, I don't think you need to have seen The Island of Dr Moreau to enjoy it (I was actually kind of surprised by how little of the movie they showed). Are there other documentaries about terrible movies worth watching (not necessarily on Netflix)? I've seen Best Worst Movie too.

Jesus Camp was a pretty depressing documentary. The film makers claimed that it doesn't take any sides, which is mostly true except for the clips of the radio show interspersed throughout. Since it's 9 years old I'm terrified to look up happened to any of the featured kids (I would not be shocked to learn that Rachel has three kids). I was pleased to learn that the camp got shut down after the documentary aired.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

david_a posted:

Jesus Camp was a pretty depressing documentary. The film makers claimed that it doesn't take any sides, which is mostly true except for the clips of the radio show interspersed throughout. Since it's 9 years old I'm terrified to look up happened to any of the featured kids (I would not be shocked to learn that Rachel has three kids). I was pleased to learn that the camp got shut down after the documentary aired.

It's not on Netflix anymore but you should "find a way" to watch Hell House.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Judakel posted:

There is little to glean from Hot Girls Wanted, beyond the fact that young people sometimes make stupid choices.

And even this is a reduction. Young people not being able to make a living wage is not the result of them making "stupid choices." It's an emphatic reality of a lot of people's lives.

edit - (most of them poor, disproportionately people of color, but let's keep wringing our hands about the sexualization of the media)

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
While I was watching Hot Girls Wanted I just kept wanting to tell those girls they could make just as much money delivering pizza. Like literally. I've known drivers who were pulling in roughly 30k a year, most of it untaxed, for doing nothing but driving around listening to music all night.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

precision posted:

While I was watching Hot Girls Wanted I just kept wanting to tell those girls they could make just as much money delivering pizza. Like literally. I've known drivers who were pulling in roughly 30k a year, most of it untaxed, for doing nothing but driving around listening to music all night.

And therein lies the rub. These girls aren't stupid. One of them explicitly compares what she does to any other lovely job. But these girls consider being slapped around and deep-throated by a guy spouting misogynistic/racist slurs to be, overall, less personally demeaning than delivering pizza.

Like, how did they get this perspective? Is it because the same media that consistently presents female sexuality as this all-dominating, liberating force (really, just wealthy and vane celebrities) also presents pizza boys as dorks, dweebs, and losers just trying to make it?... Oh, wait, this wasn't about sex at all! These are class narratives!

edit - Or maybe they tried to get those jobs and couldn't. Gee, I wonder what disproportionate factors make it harder for women to get jobs... Oh, I know, the Miley Cyrus "Wrecking Ball" video!

These are the condescending ideas that come from the rich daughter of Quincey Jones.

K. Waste fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Aug 8, 2015

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

K. Waste posted:

And even this is a reduction. Young people not being able to make a living wage is not the result of them making "stupid choices." It's an emphatic reality of a lot of people's lives.

edit - (most of them poor, disproportionately people of color, but let's keep wringing our hands about the sexualization of the media)

I doubt they chose porn because they were unable to earn a living wage. It was just easier or so they thought.

Edit: If you think delivering pizzas is more demeaning than being throat hosed, you are pretty stupid.

I don't think they think that, though. I think it simply seemed easier and more rewarding to them at the beginning. They did not think in terms of what was more demeaning. They made a poor choice, that is all.

Judakel fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Aug 8, 2015

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K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Judakel posted:

I doubt they chose porn because they were unable to earn a living wage. It was just easier or so they thought.

That sounds kinda reductive. Watch the documentary again. Even though it's not very good, you'll find that their motivations for pursuing it and staying with it have nothing to do with the 'ease' of sex work.

quote:

Edit: If you think delivering pizzas is more demeaning than being throat hosed, you are pretty stupid.

I didn't say anything remotely close to that. I'm saying that these young women are not idiots or ignoramuses. Even if they haven't finished maturing mentally yet, they are still aware of their options, have gleaned evidence from their social circumstances, however limited, and made a choice.

quote:

I think it simply seemed easier and more rewarding to them at the beginning. They did not think in terms of what was more demeaning. They made a poor choice, that is all.

Jade, one of the girls from the documentary posted:

I’m here to put on a show. I’m not here to be comfortable. I come and put on a show and make myself uncomfortable so that you can get off, so I can get paid and be comfortable on my own time. The same way, ugh, there we go, the degrading thing. Me, that I do it on camera to somebody that’s faking it or… that guy or that woman who’s been working at that company busting their rear end for lovely benefits for how many years? Who can’t leave, because then what are their kids gonna eat? You know what I mean? Like, people are in those situations outside of porn, all the time. Relationships. With me, it’s all fake. That’s where the line becomes fuzzy for some people. They don’t see that.

I think you should re-watch the film, but in opposition. Jones and Co. very much want you to believe that porn is just "a poor choice." They are classists who are condescending to your intelligence and pandering to your latent paternalism/sexism.

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