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the_american_dream posted:ODB seems like a generational talent and also gets bonus points for being extremely handsome. However I couldnt imagine taking him over Brown, Dez, Julio, or Thomas I'd rather have ODB than DT. Kubiak is WR poison, Denver's oline took a huge hit, peyton is one year older, eli is one year wiser, ODB's hair is way cooler...
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Papes posted:Who the gently caress says this? People who win their leagues, usually. Good players on poo poo offenses score way less than good players on good offenses. Jeremy Maclin is going to be a prime example of this rule this year when owners are frustrated by his disappearance weeks because Alex Smith can't throw past 20 yards. Don't bench your studs, don't gamble on your first two picks, don't draft players on poo poo offenses no matter how much beat writers hype up their athleticism.
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:I'd rather have ODB than DT. I was wavering on including DT but I remembered Kubiak's tendency to forcefeed his WR1. Of course you also are gambling on Peyton having another run in him
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Doltos posted:People who win their leagues, usually. Maclin is very good after the catch and Reid knows how to get his playmakers the ball
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Doltos posted:People who win their leagues, usually. I dont think anyone disagrees that good players on good teams are better than good players on bad teams... We just also realize that sometimes a good player on a bad team is better than a decent player on a good team. Crazy, I know.
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cheese posted:I dont think anyone disagrees that good players on good teams are better than good players on bad teams... We just also realize that sometimes a good player on a bad team is better than a decent player on a good team. Crazy, I know. When? Emmanuel Sanders ADP is through the roof ahead of guys like Maclin. Wilson is getting drafted ahead of Romo/Manning/Roethlisberger and he's an inferior player to all of them. Fuckin' Antonio Brown doesn't bring nearly the same threat to the table as Thomas/Megatron/Green and he's the first overall WR! Granted he's better than a 'decent player', but if we're yardsticking it by talent and measurements then it's hard to find someone who will willingly take a 4.4 5'10 180lbs WR over a 4.4 6'3+ 215lbs+ WR that can also run short, intermediate, and deep routes in real life, and you can bet Brown wouldn't nearly have the same season he did last year if his QB was as dogshit as a lot of guys out there. Fantasy is all about picking high usage guys in setups where their usage will result in a high number of targets or carries that will turn out successful. Amari Cooper blows every other rookie WR out of the water right now but odds are the Ravens are going to be able to get the ball to Perriman more than Carr can get the ball to Cooper. Maybe, could go either way, but again there's a reason why Todd Gurley is getting drafted behind inferior rookie backs or why Sammy Watkins will probably be around the 25th WR taken. You just don't grab good players on bad offenses in the first four rounds, it's a great way to torpedo your draft if you're relying on the T.J. Yeldons of the world to shore up as your top 4 guy.
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Green, Cin WR Aaron Dobson, NE WR Aaron Rodgers, GB QB Ace Sanders, Jac WR Adam Vinatieri, Ind K Adrian Peterson, Min RB Adrien Robinson, NYG TE Ahmad Bradshaw, Ind RB AJ McCarron, Cin QB Albert Wilson, KC WR Alex Smith, KC QB Alfred Blue, Hou RB Alfred Morris, Wsh RB Allen Hurns, Jac WR Allen Robinson, Jac WR Alshon Jeffery, Chi WR Amari Cooper, Oak WR Ameer Abdullah, Det RB Andre Caldwell, Den WR Andre Ellington, Ari RB Andre Holmes, Oak WR Andre Johnson, Ind WR Andre Roberts, Wsh WR Andre Williams, NYG RB Andrew Hawkins, Cle WR Andrew Luck, Ind QB Andrew Quarless, GB TE Andy Dalton, Cin QB Anquan Boldin, SF WR Anthony Fasano, Ten TE Anthony McCoy, Sea TE Anthony Sherman, KC RB Antone Smith, Atl RB Antonio Andrews, Ten RB Antonio Brown, Pit WR Antonio Gates, SD TE Antwan Goodley, Dal WR Arian Foster*, Hou RB Arthur Lynch, Mia TE Austin Davis, StL QB Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TB TE B.J. Daniels, Sea QB Bear Pascoe, Chi TE Bears D/ST, Chi D/ST Ben Roethlisberger, Pit QB Ben Tate, Pit RB Bengals D/ST, Cin D/ST Benjamin Cunningham, StL RB Benjamin Watson, NO TE Bernard Pierce, Jac RB Bilal Powell, NYJ RB Bills D/ST, Buf D/ST Bishop Sankey, Ten RB Blaine Gabbert, SF QB Blair Walsh, Min K Blake Bell, SF TE Blake Bortles, Jac QB Bobby Rainey, TB RB Boobie Dixon, Buf RB Branden Oliver, SD RB Brandin Cooks, NO WR Brandon Bolden, NE RB Brandon Coleman, NO WR Brandon Gibson, NE WR Brandon LaFell*, NE WR Brandon Marshall, NYJ WR Brandon Myers, TB TE Brandon Pettigrew, Det TE Brandon Tate, Cin WR Brandon Weeden, Dal QB Brandon Williams*, Car TE Brent Celek, Phi TE Breshad Perriman, Bal WR Brett Hundley, GB QB Brian Hartline, Cle WR Brian Hoyer, Hou QB Brian Quick, StL WR Brock Osweiler, Den QB Broncos D/ST, Den D/ST Browns D/ST, Cle D/ST Bruce Ellington, SF WR Bruce Gradkowski*, Pit QB Bruce Miller, SF RB Bryce Brown, Buf RB Bryce Petty, NYJ QB Buccaneers D/ST, TB D/ST Buck Allen, Bal RB C.J. Anderson, Den RB C.J. Fiedorowicz, Hou TE C.J. Spiller, NO RB C.J. Uzomah, Cin TE Cairo Santos, KC K Caleb Sturgis, Mia K Calvin Johnson, Det WR Cam Newton, Car QB Cameron Artis-Payne, Car RB Cardinals D/ST, Ari D/ST Carey Spear, Cle K Carlos Hyde, SF RB Carson Palmer, Ari QB Cecil Shorts III, Hou WR Cedric Peerman, Cin RB Chad Henne, Jac QB Chandler Catanzaro, Ari K Charcandrick West, KC RB Chargers D/ST, SD D/ST Charles Clay, Buf TE Charles Johnson, Min WR Charles Sims, TB RB Chase Daniel, KC QB Chase Ford, Min TE Chiefs D/ST, KC D/ST Chris Conley, KC WR Chris Givens, StL WR Chris Gragg, Buf TE Chris Hogan, Buf WR Chris Ivory, NYJ RB Chris Johnson, NYJ RB Chris Matthews, Sea WR Chris Polk, Hou RB Chris Thompson, Wsh RB Christian Ponder, Oak QB Christine Michael, Sea RB Clay Harbor, Jac TE Clive Walford, Oak TE Coby Fleener, Ind TE Cody Latimer, Den WR Cody Parkey, Phi K Cole Beasley, Dal WR Colin Kaepernick, SF QB Collin Mooney, Atl RB Colt McCoy, Wsh QB Colts D/ST, Ind D/ST Connor Barth, Den K Cordarrelle Patterson, Min WR Corey Brown, Car WR Corey Fuller, Det WR Corey Washington, NYG WR Cory Harkey, StL TE Cowboys D/ST, Dal D/ST Craig Stevens, Ten TE Crockett Gillmore, Bal TE Cyrus Gray, KC RB Damaris Johnson, Hou WR Damien Williams, Mia RB Dan Bailey, Dal K Dan Carpenter*, Buf K Dan Orlovsky, Det QB Daniel Fells, NYG TE Daniel Herron, Ind RB Danny Amendola, NE WR Danny Woodhead, SD RB Dante Rosario, Chi TE Darrel Young, Wsh RB Darren Fells, Ari TE Darren McFadden*, Dal RB Darren Sproles, Phi RB Darren Waller, Bal WR Darrin Reaves, Car RB Darrius Heyward-Bey, Pit WR Davante Adams, GB WR David Cobb, Ten RB David Johnson, Ari RB David Johnson, SD TE David Paulson, SD TE De'Anthony Thomas, KC RB DeAndre Hopkins, Hou WR DeAndre Smelter*, SF WR DeAngelo Williams, Pit RB Delanie Walker, Ten TE DeMarco Murray, Phi RB Demaryius Thomas, Den WR Demetrius Harris*, KC TE Denard Robinson, Jac RB Denarius Moore, Cin WR Dennis Pitta*, Bal TE Deontay Greenberry, Dal WR Derek Anderson, Car QB Derek Carr, Oak QB Derrick Coleman, Sea RB DeSean Jackson, Wsh WR DeVante Parker*, Mia WR DeVier Posey, NYJ WR Devin Funchess, Car WR Devin Hester, Atl WR Devin Smith, NYJ WR Devin Street, Dal WR Devonta Freeman, Atl RB Dexter McCluster, Ten WR, RB Dez Bryant, Dal WR Dez Lewis, Buf WR Dion Sims, Mia TE Dolphins D/ST, Mia D/ST Donald Brown, SD RB Donte Moncrief, Ind WR Dontrelle Inman, SD WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Ten WR Doug Baldwin, Sea WR Doug Martin, TB RB Dres Anderson, SF WR Drew Brees, NO QB Drew Stanton, Ari QB Dri Archer, Pit RB Duke Johnson, Cle RB Duron Carter, Ind WR Dustin Hopkins, NO K Dwayne Allen, Ind TE Dwayne Bowe, Cle WR Dwayne Harris, NYG WR Eagles D/ST, Phi D/ST Ed Dickson, Car TE Eddie Lacy, GB RB Eddie Royal, Chi WR Edwin Baker, NO RB EJ Manuel, Buf QB Eli Manning, NYG QB Emmanuel Sanders, Den WR Eric Decker, NYJ WR Eric Ebron, Det TE Eric Weems, Atl WR Erik Lorig, NO RB Falcons D/ST, Atl D/ST Felix Jones, Pit RB Fozzy Whittaker, Car RB Frank Gore, Ind RB Fred Jackson, Buf RB Garrett Graham, Hou TE Garrett 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Josh Gordon, third string Rams RBs, Tannehill, fJax, all players on bad to medicocre teams who are useful or have been useful in fantasy. Even game breakers sometimes. Ruling them out because the team is bad is dumb and silly and go ahead and let others draft them when they win your league.
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Mike Evans scored a lot of fantasy points last year despite being a rookie on a bottom-4 offense with a terrible OLine, horrible QB situation, and beyond bad coaching situation. What I'm saying is generalizations suck and half of everyone's predictions will be wrong, enjoy the ride~
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10 man, 0.5 PPR, 7th spot. Gronk/JJ Watt Or CJ Anderson/RB JJ watt score 140 more points than the next best DL in our league last year. 2 RB. 3 WRz no flex Positional advantage a real thing? 89 fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Hot take good players will be good regardless of situation
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Metapod posted:Hot take good players will be good regardless of situation Counterpoint: CJ Spiller
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Forever_Peace posted:Counterpoint: CJ Spiller So loving unlucky. That goddamn collarbone injury last year was awful.
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Every champion has their own secret to success. But there's only one factor that truly matters: being smarter than the guys you're playing against. suck my hot take
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89 posted:10 man, 0.5 PPR, 7th spot. JJ.
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ODB is a cool cat and essentially won me my big money league last year. But he's young (sophomore slump), he's small for an outside receiver, he's been hampered by his hams and still is going into the season, and he resides in offense with a good amount of viable targets. Regardless of format, I wouldn't take him off the board higher than WR6/7. There are much safer bets in legitimate #1 WRs with proven track records, and on offenses that are either proper run-balanced or entirely pass heavy.
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Thank you. I've since changed my strategy to CJ/JJ though. I love Gronk, but I love more the idea of landing Olsen in the 4th or 5th round rather than spending a 1st on Gronk. Side note, one of the best parts of fantasy football is predraft, having talks with your buddies, in person, about your "strategies" and being very manipulative in talking them out of the players you secretly want. 😈😈😈 It's time to ride the PAIN TRAIN again, LeVeon!!
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a nigga who smoke posted:ODB is a cool cat and essentially won me my big money league last year. But he's young (sophomore slump), he's small for an outside receiver, he's been hampered by his hams and still is going into the season, and he resides in offense with a good amount of viable targets. Rookie WRs tend to have worse production than 2nd year WRs so I respectfully disagree with you about a sophomore slump when we look at ODB.
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Rookie WRs tend to have worse production than 2nd year WRs so I respectfully disagree with you about a sophomore slump when we look at ODB. I poked around some analyses of this the last time it came up, and I'm pretty convinced that while the overall performance of WRs as a whole tends to improve until a peak at age 24-26 (usually 3-5 years into their careers), there is also a tendency for the best WRs from any given year to perform slightly worse the next year. It's a pretty straightforward reasoning: when you have a regression line (e.g. the general improvement of young receivers), you also tend to have regression to the mean (i.e. outliers tend to fall towards the center of the distribution upon subsequent samples). I'm still not touching OBJ until the end of the 1st, if that. He seems like the most overdrafted guy in the first three rounds to me. Forever_Peace fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Forever_Peace posted:I'm still not touching OBJ until the end of the 1st, if that. He seems like the most overdrafted guy in the first three rounds to me. Justin Forsett or Melvin Gordon imo.
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Papes posted:Justin Forsett or Melvin Gordon imo. Hard to argue with that. Didn't realize Forsett has been going ahead of Gore, Morris, and Ingram. And I think Gordon is going to be outshined by Abdullah this year, much less by other non-rookie RBs.
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Forever_Peace posted:I poked around some analyses of this the last time it came up, and I'm pretty convinced that while the overall performance of WRs as a whole tends to improve until a peak at age 24-26 (usually 3-5 years into their careers), there is also a tendency for the best WRs from any given year to perform slightly worse the next year. Oh, no, that is something I agree with. He won't match his production last year but it's a little silly to be throwing around terms like "sophomore slump" when talking about a guy who just Calvin Johnsoned the latter half of his very first season.
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89 posted:Side note, one of the best parts of fantasy football is predraft, having talks with your buddies, in person, about your "strategies" and being very manipulative in talking them out of the players you secretly want. 😈😈😈 It's time to ride the PAIN TRAIN again, LeVeon!! Predraft is the best part because nobody has hurt you yet.  Also with regards to ODB what I like to do is take a historic 2/3 of a season from a rookie and then I extrapolate that over 16 games and draft accordingly. That's the road to glory.
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Hey everyone, there's 2 spots open in the free super keeper league (15 keepers, no keeper penalty, 22 total players) from our first year. We had a rough start getting rules together post draft, but our poo poo is together now, so it's all fun and games. This is the thread for it http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3654090&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 .5 ppr with .1 for qb completions Everyone had a good time last year and I Photoshopped up some plaques for winner, loser, and some other random crap. I'll also be giving out some kind of small reward for the winner this year. If you would like to inherit a team, email me here ddoucette777@gmail.com. Keeper lock date is the 16th, so the sooner the better! here are the two teams that are open's rosters. [s]Team 1 Taken Team 2 Taken If you have any questions, I would comment in the thread (linked in post), as to not um up this thread too much. Anyway, it was great fun last year working with deep rosters and seeing just how poorly you drafted. This year we'll see if those stretch picks start to pay off if you keep them. Edit: All slots filled, Thanks everyone. Marshmallow Blue fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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I told the guys in my league I was going to keep Josh Gordon for NEXT year. They believed me. Oh well, should have kept that up, maybe would have given me an advantage, but I let on it was all a ruse
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Spoeank posted:Only Sith deal in absolutes. Except when it comes to Jaguars and Raiders.
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Hey everyone, there's 2 spots open in the free super keeper league (15 keepers, no keeper penalty, 22 total players) from our first year. We had a rough start getting rules together post draft, but our poo poo is together now, so it's all fun and games. E-mail sent.
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Gobias Ind. posted:E-mail sent. Team 1 is yours, let me know if you didn't get the inv.
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Team 1 is yours, let me know if you didn't get the inv. Received and joined, thanks!
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Team 1 is yours, let me know if you didn't get the inv. Emailed about team 2.
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CompeAnansi posted:Emailed about team 2. Invite sent, No more slots open! Thanks everyone!!
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Invite sent, No more slots open! Hmm it might be too late now, but I actually got the Team 2 roster. Any way to switch?
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Gobias Ind. posted:Hmm it might be too late now, but I actually got the Team 2 roster. Any way to switch? Looking into it
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Looking into it CompeAnansi and I could both leave the league and get re-invited?
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Gobias Ind. posted:Hmm it might be too late now, but I actually got the Team 2 roster. Any way to switch? And I got team 1. I'm happy with either team as they both seemed pretty solid.
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My league allows two keepers but they can't be from my first two picks of the previous season. Here's what I have to choose from: Andrew Luck Golden Tate Knowshon Moreno Riley Cooper Stevan Ridley Panthers D Hakeem Nicks Delanie Walker Benjarvis Green-Ellis Jordan Todman Goes without saying that I'm keeping luck, but not sure who else. Any thoughts?
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