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It's a pity Slow West didn't get a wide release and has been seen by essentially no one No one cares about Westerns anymore 
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Yaws posted:It's a pity Slow West didn't get a wide release and has been seen by essentially no one it's exactly the kind of western i'd like to see more of, too. 90 minutes, weird and colorful.
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Aug 12, 2015 01:52
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I know I mentioned it in the last thread but I'm gonna throw this out there again since I recently rewatched it: Computer Chess. It's like... it's a really weird loving movie. Basically it's like Richard Linklater made a documentary in 1981 about a computer convention. I mean it even has Wiley Wiggins in it. Just watch it.
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Aug 12, 2015 02:31
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To counter that, I loving despised Computer Chess. Don't watch it,
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Aug 12, 2015 02:40
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I really dug Computer Chess, but feel like I might have hated it if I caught it at the wrong time
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Aug 12, 2015 02:41
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axleblaze posted:To counter that, I loving despised Computer Chess. Don't watch it, To counter that, any movie which produces such a polarizing opinion is essential viewing. See: Detention. 
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Aug 12, 2015 02:42
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axleblaze posted:Overnight is on Youtube and yeah, it's really good and the most schadenfreude film there is. Even ignoring absolutely everything else about the guy, "Troy Duffy" is just about the d-baggiest name in existence. Dude was cursed from birth. Never had a chance.
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Aug 12, 2015 03:15
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I just thought Computer Chess was kinda boring
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Aug 12, 2015 03:19
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Hat Thoughts posted:I just thought Computer Chess was kinda boring I can see that, but there is just so much earnest weirdness in it, even (perhaps especially) outside the actual computer nerds. It's just one of the most baffling films I've ever seen, and in ways that I think make it interesting. I'd almost compare it to Upstream Color in that way, though it's obviously not nearly as good as all THAT.
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Aug 12, 2015 03:38
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axleblaze posted:Overnight is on Youtube and yeah, it's really good and the most schadenfreude film there is. My absolute favorite part of this is how terrible of a guitar player Troy is.
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Aug 12, 2015 04:00
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:it's exactly the kind of western i'd like to see more of, too. 90 minutes, weird and colorful. I knew nothing about this movie and 'cause it was called Slow West, I was picturing like a 3 hour slog. If it's around 90 minutes, I'll have to check it out. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with long, slow movies, I just have to be in a certain mood for them.
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Aug 12, 2015 05:21
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precision posted:I know I mentioned it in the last thread but I'm gonna throw this out there again since I recently rewatched it: Tastes vary, and it is an extremely idiosyncratic film, but Computer Chess was my favorite movie of that year and I give it the highest recommendation. I even shelled out for the Blu-Ray and watched it back to back with two different audio commentary tracks, the first by one of the original programmers of the Deep Blue computer chess program, and the second by a man identified only as "an enthusiastic stoner." The latter recorded his commentary track during his first viewing of the film.
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Aug 12, 2015 05:34
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precision posted:To counter that, any movie which produces such a polarizing opinion is essential viewing. See: Detention. I did not care for Detention
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Aug 12, 2015 09:35
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I still don't quite why people reacted so viscerally to Compy Chess.
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Aug 12, 2015 13:50
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still don't quite why people reacted so viscerally to Compy Chess. I just found it kind of painful to sit through. Like it was a combination of it not being funny and also being really cringe worthy while also not really having an interest in it's subject other than half-heartedly mocking it but not even dong a very good job of that. It was just nails on a chalkboard for me. Looking throught the review thread this is what I said when I actually watched it "I just found this movie completely boring and just sort of ugly. I guess it was accurate to these type of people but these type of people aren't very interesting, or funny and I didn't have a good time hanging around them. It's also a movie where nothing seems to go anywhere. It's a bunch of strands that don't reach anything. They're just sort of introduced and nothing really happens. In general it comes off as just trying to be so god damned clever and it's just not. It doesn't really say anything that Battleship doesn't and Battleship said it way better. " It should be noted that I don't even like Battleship all that much. I guess in the end it just comes down to there nothing being worse than an unfunny comedy. I understand some people found this funny but it just didn't manage to even slightly amuse me at pretty much any point so the whole thing was just a horrible slog from beginning to end. axelblaze fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Aug 12, 2015 14:15
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Speaking of Westerns, I watched two in the last few days that were pretty solid , both on Netflix: Sweetwater has great set pieces, January Jones, a surprisingly excellent villain turn by Jason Isaacs of all people, and Ed Harris doing his best Billy Bob Thornton impression. It should be a fine little western, but I thought the pacing was uneven enough to be distracting. My wife didn't see the pacing as an issue so maybe it's just me. The cinematography makes it worth watching regardless. Blackthorn again has a wonderful setting (Bolivia) & set pieces, a clever idea, and solid performances. Of the two, I liked this one better. Old Sam Shepard kind of rules as a grizzled old outlaw and It's also got Stephen Rea in it, who's reliably fantastic though a little underused.
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Yaws posted:It's a pity Slow West didn't get a wide release and has been seen by essentially no one The issue with westerns is that almost everyone knows a lot more of the truth now, there's not much romance in the material left to be distilled on film. I'd love to see a remake of Jeremiah Johnson, for instance... Now that they wouldn't be able to avoid the truth of the character https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson I'm not sure how you could really make a watchable movie out of it. I don't think it's really that people don't care about the west, it's just that they care differently about it then we did as a society, once upon a time. Ravenous would be a prime example of a modern "Western" for instance, where the depravity and misery and desperation are all brought to the fore, as much as the scenery and the six shooters. I think Eastwood's best western ever was right after he quit doing Rawhide, and began to lash out at the genre tropes he was so tired of - Paint Your Wagons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3dhHBhWnBY coyo7e fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Aug 12, 2015 15:54
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coyo7e posted:I don't think it's really that people don't care about the west, it's just that they care differently about it then we did as a society, once upon a time. Ravenous would be a prime example of a modern "Western" for instance, where the depravity and misery and desperation are all brought to the fore, as much as the scenery and the six shooters. Ravenous owns, and it's on Netflix. It's a weird genre-hopping movie that touches on Westerns, horror, and dark comedy. Definitely a good watch if that sounds intriguing to anyone. And the soundtrack kicks rear end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V-KLn_PgQg
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Aug 12, 2015 16:07
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coyo7e posted:Westerns as a recognizable genre to compare to what they used to be, are dead. Clint Eastwood and his career managed to encompass and signify the shift of westerns as a whole, and Unforgiven was the last movie that can honestly be called a western. Even remakes such as True Grit are revisionist westerns now, and the non-ironic low budget cowboy movies you see now and then who try to ape the tropes of pre-revisionist western film, fail miserably largely because they are so straight-faced that they're hard to watch. The Western/Revisionist Western and Noir/Neo-Noir labels seem mostly pointless to me but if you're going to use them I don't know how you can claim that Unforgiven is a classic Western
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Aug 12, 2015 16:13
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I totally forgot they made a Wing Commander movie starring in the moment 90's teen movie heart throbs. What a weird thing to exist. I might have to watch it.
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Aug 12, 2015 16:15
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NESguerilla posted:I totally forgot they made a Wing Commander movie starring in the moment 90's teen movie heart throbs. What a weird thing to exist. I might have to watch it. Yea I'm feeling the same way but I haven't yet figured out what extremely potent drug/alcohol cocktail will be most helpful in seeing me though the experience.
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Aug 12, 2015 16:20
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I'm feeling the same way but I haven't yet figured out what extremely potent drug/alcohol cocktail will be most helpful in seeing me though the experience. Half a bottle of whisky and half of opiates.
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Aug 12, 2015 16:21
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axleblaze posted:(Computer Chess) not really having an interest in it's subject Not that this would make you personally enjoy the film any more, but the Deep Blue programmer consistently remarked on the film's accuracy with regards to the computer chess convention scene of the time period, the programming issues, the personalities, and the kinds of debates and discussions that would have been had by the participants. He even thought the neighboring convention with the religious elements reminded him of the "encounter" type movements of the time.
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coyo7e posted:I don't think it's really that people don't care about the west, it's just that they care differently about it then we did as a society, once upon a time. Ravenous would be a prime example of a modern "Western" for instance, where the depravity and misery and desperation are all brought to the fore, as much as the scenery and the six shooters. Interesting that you bring up another Guy Pierce film because The Proposition is one that I'd consider a modern Western, it just happens to not take place in the American west. For me the only "true" Westerns were made during the time of Ford and Wayne, that's when there was at least some romance left in the idea of the West. Ford and Wayne also made what could be considered the first revisionist Western, The Searchers, really the genre begins and ends with them.
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AKMoose posted:Not that this would make you personally enjoy the film any more, but the Deep Blue programmer consistently remarked on the film's accuracy with regards to the computer chess convention scene of the time period, the programming issues, the personalities, and the kinds of debates and discussions that would have been had by the participants. He even thought the neighboring convention with the religious elements reminded him of the "encounter" type movements of the time. I mean more that the movie just doesn't seem all that interested in the thing it's about. It just seems to find computers boring and computer conventions boring. I mean, to most people, yeah they are, but not to the people attending these things. If you looks at something like one of the Guest mockumentaries, he tends to take something silly or banal and while mocking it, really also shows the characters passion for the thing. In computer chess, everyone just seems to bored to be there and bored by programming.
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Computer Chess was cute enough but its thing about the irreducability of human behavior fell flat for me because although I'm no expert the idea of two different chess playing programs consistently coming to a draw I didn't really find mind-blowing or even strange at all? I guess it seemed like just another movie that argues for the existence of a soul or a self or free will only because the alternative is too scary. (edit: played it safe, added spoiler tags) The Time Dissolver fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Aug 12, 2015 16:58
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I could stump for the movie all day, but my goal is to encourage newcomers to give it a spin (it's only 90 minutes) and not to reverse existing opinions. Honestly, I'm just tickled it found enough viewers in this thread to be polarizing. I cannot resist a few nits, though--I like Guest, but, aside from the framing in the first 10 minutes or so, the movie doesn't even really attempt to be a documentary or mockumentary, especially as it slides into the personal (such as the swinger couple trying to get a threesome with one of the computer programmers) or the surreal (the sentient computer, the robot hooker...). As to the second poster above, the tournament had a clear winner, not sure what the "consistent draw" element you are referring to is, and it's certainly not the thesis of the film.
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Aug 12, 2015 17:10
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I finally watched The Warriors. It didn't blow me away, but I can see how it developed such a strong following. It has a very unique style.
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Aug 12, 2015 17:44
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Chichevache posted:I finally watched The Warriors. It didn't blow me away, but I can see how it developed such a strong following. It has a very unique style. I recently watched it as a double bill with John Carpenter's Assault on Precinct 13 and the two paired quite nicely.
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Aug 12, 2015 17:50
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I don't understand people watching two completely unrelated films as a double bill. This is a phenomenon I've witnessed in this thread/forum and nowhere else ever. This isn't meant as a criticism necessarily.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:I don't understand people watching two completely unrelated films as a double bill. This is a phenomenon I've witnessed in this thread/forum and nowhere else ever. You've never watched two movies in a row?
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Aug 12, 2015 17:56
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I will say this about Computer Chess, as I said I loved it, but I didn't find it funny nor did I think it was intended to be funny, so that's a weird complaint to me. For me the appeal was that the whole thing was like a surreal fever dream of real events.
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AKMoose posted:I recently watched it as a double bill with John Carpenter's Assault on Precinct 13 and the two paired quite nicely. I was actually thinking of Assault while posting about Warriors! I didn't think anyone else would feel the similarity though.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:I don't understand people watching two completely unrelated films as a double bill. This is a phenomenon I've witnessed in this thread/forum and nowhere else ever. I think it's to take the sting out of having nothing better to do than two watch movies back to back. I'm watching Wing Commander right now and it is gloriously dumb. It's like Starship Troopers but space fighter pilots, played with a straight face and 90s as all gently caress. The 'push the fighter wreck off the deck so it falls off into loving open space' scene was better than I could ever have imagined. fake edit: gently caress, beaten
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morestuff posted:You've never watched two movies in a row? I've watched two films in a row many times. Maybe I should develop the thought further to say that taking two films, which have very little in common (most of the examples in this thread, for instance), watching them, then telling people they pair well as if it means something. Every time I see it I remember the posts from years ago whenever someone posted a gif and someone else saw it and then said it goes well with (this song), only not as irritating. Sorry everyone I'm not having a pop I just wondered why it happens.
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edit:^^^^ It happens because the idea of the "double bill" is a time-honored cinematic thing (especially if you ever went to drive-ins) so it's just... something people do  I've avoided watching Wing Commander this long. I think I'm finally ready.
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Chichevache posted:I finally watched The Warriors. It didn't blow me away, but I can see how it developed such a strong following. It has a very unique style. People in here were talking a few weeks ago about the Netflix version being the director's cut or whatever that had the comic book transitions. But I watched it since then and it didn't have them. The version I have on disc does have the transitions though, and they do feel out of place so it's nice that the Netflix version is missing them.
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NESguerilla posted:I totally forgot they made a Wing Commander movie starring in the moment 90's teen movie heart throbs. What a weird thing to exist. I might have to watch it. I saw that in the theater when I was on Vicodin from a nasty back injury. It was one of the most surreal experiences of my life with the pain and the drugs and the awful movie.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:I've watched two films in a row many times. Maybe I should develop the thought further to say that taking two films, which have very little in common (most of the examples in this thread, for instance), watching them, then telling people they pair well as if it means something. The whole point of suggesting a double bill is to encourage you to think about one film in terms of another. Obviously you don't need to be told to watch Back To The Future I and II back to back. wa27 posted:People in here were talking a few weeks ago about the Netflix version being the director's cut or whatever that had the comic book transitions. But I watched it since then and it didn't have them. The version I have on disc does have the transitions though, and they do feel out of place so it's nice that the Netflix version is missing them. What's nice is that Netflix actually had that version up for a long while, and then they swapped it out.
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