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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Please refer to it as japanimation or else I'm going to be triggered.

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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
If you like Cowboy Bebop you should watch Samurai Champloo and Space Dandy, at which point the gateway drugs will be in your system and there will be no escape from Big Anime.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Is this anime?



E: man I just noticed how hosed that clan ring is, whoever's playing needs to learn how to honor the gods.

NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Aug 12, 2015

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




One of my favourite things is skeletons playing their own bodies like percussion instruments so I guess I have to play this game now.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

NmareBfly posted:

I wanted to say the same thing -- a KoDP WOFF would be amazing. I don't think the separate experiences would be that bad either. Master of Orion 2 was a great episode, and while two playthroughs of KoDP can go in different places they'll almost always have a bunch of events in common (what'd you do with the ducks, that stupid generational feud, etc) or just weird crap happening to comment on. It's a really unique game that combines management elements of 4X games with gamebook / choose your own adventure stuff so it's right in their wheelhouse.

I want more people to play KoDP always though so maybe I have a weird outlook. All-time classic.

There's also a lot of game-design meat to pick at, too. Some people don't think the game explains enough, but not knowing how things work and using mostly superstition to make choices is sort of a central and thematic element. Here a pretty good writeup, and you can even get it on iOS. I mean seriously it's a perfect WOFF game.
There's an excellent (but very slightly simplified) version on the android and probably iphone marketplaces, and they added a bunch of new events and stuff. I spent a couple weekends playing it on my tablet while visiting family who love off the grid, and had a blast.

IIRC, the only thing they removed were a couple sliders for some of the more esoteric UI elements.

I have been entirely unable to get the GOG version I bought to run reliably on any PC I own.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 12, 2015

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

coyo7e posted:

There's an excellent (but very slightly simplified) version on the android and probably iphone marketplaces, and they added a bunch of new events and stuff. I spent a couple weekends playing it on my tablet while visiting family who love off the grid, and had a blast.

IIRC, the only thing they removed were a couple sliders for some of the more esoteric UI elements.

I have been entirely unable to get the GOG version I bought to run reliably on any PC I own.

There's a version for Steam out now too

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
The release of Everyone's Gone to the Rapture got me wondering, have people like Gary and Kole or Idle Thumbs ever done a show on a "interactive novel"/"walking simulator" game? I mean stuff like Dear Esther, Gone Home, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Everyone's Gone to the Rapture etc.?

I just finished Everyone's Gone to the Rapture and adored it, but I also enjoyed stuff like Dear Esther and its hard to find much critical thought put into those games besides the tiring and never-ending debate of "is it even a game!?!?", which has never interested me as a discussion to have about something.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

So It Goes posted:

The release of Everyone's Gone to the Rapture got me wondering, have people like Gary and Kole or Idle Thumbs ever done a show on a "interactive novel"/"walking simulator" game? I mean stuff like Dear Esther, Gone Home, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Everyone's Gone to the Rapture etc.?

I just finished Everyone's Gone to the Rapture and adored it, but I also enjoyed stuff like Dear Esther and its hard to find much critical thought put into those games besides the tiring and never-ending debate of "is it even a game!?!?", which has never interested me as a discussion to have about something.

I participated in this with some other podcast luminaries. http://duckfeed.tv/lvl/bl10

We've talked about Dear Esther in the margins and I'm very curious about Everybody's Gone to Rapture but was so turned off my A Machine for Pigs that I'm a lil hesitant. I have very little patience for the "not a game" argument.

Now, excuse me, I have to go fulfill my duty to correct a stranger's morals on the internet, then congratulate myself on putting the matter to bed. (mic drop).

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Let's start a huge slapfight about Legend of Korra being called "anime" on the latest Abject Suffering

No one actually do this I swear to god

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

HMS Boromir posted:

when's abject suffering but for anime
If anyone ever does this and doesn't call it "According to Keikaku" I will be Very Disappointed.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

TetsuoTW posted:

If anyone ever does this and doesn't call it "According to Keikaku" I will be Very Disappointed.

This can be a potentially entertaining idea but only if they did a blanket ban on all pornographic (TL NOTE: pornographic means hentai) anime because:

1) They are not low hanging fruits; they are miles deep underground fruits.
2) Mostly for the sanity of whoever is doing that podcast.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
It mostly seems like the big issue there would be finding the right balance of listeners for the requests. Lean too hard on anime fans and you're liable to end up with some miserable material, go too far from them and you only get identical/surface-level crap. Somehow I feel like first two/last two episodes would be a good way to make up for the 30 minute rule, though.

No, I'm totally not overthinking this or wondering what could be done with the concept.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

Whoever threw themselves on that altar (I wouldn't do it) would have to be pretty brave. We sometimes get poo poo for not covering games on Abject Suffering with due respect. I hazard that middling anime have more ardent fans than, say, Karate Kid for the NES.

Is there a consensus as to what constitutes bad anime like there is with NES games?

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
Chip & Ironicus did something like anime Abject Suffering a while ago, though it was talking over the episodes rather than podcasting after watching them. It was pretty successful, but I think it was just one guy with an encyclopedic knowledge of badime feeding them suggestions. I don't know if the greater corpus of bad anime has a lot more stuff like this or if it's mostly just boring or objectionable.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Mad Bull 34 is a pretty loving bad early 1990 anime featuring ultraviolence, fanservice, cops and racism. Then again almost any anime that was made in the early 90s and depends heavily is going to be trash.

gently caress I HATE watched Kill-La-Kill which is an anime with a good premise but ended up being loving trash. I still like the OP song though... And don’t get me started on Kantai Kolle and Monster Musume, i don’t want to have an aneurism.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

ElMaligno posted:

gently caress I HATE watched Kill-La-Kill which is an anime with a good premise but ended up being loving trash. I still like the OP song though... And don’t get me started on Kantai Kolle and Monster Musume, i don’t want to have an aneurism.
Is Monster Musume about a monster's daughter, or about a daughter who is a monster? Title seems unclear.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

FractalSandwich posted:

Is Monster Musume about a monster's daughter, or about a daughter who is a monster? Title seems unclear.

Its Monsume not Mosume.

Its Monster Girl i wanna bone: the harem: the softcore manga/anime.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
I was afraid of that.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
90 percent of media is trash, the only difference is that people don't have a filter built up for anime yet. Mentioning monster whatever is basically the same as going "ride to hell/hatred is awful, that's why games are all terrible!"

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

It doesn't help that most of the anime that makes it to the English-speaking world is either the kind that would appeal to English-speaking anime fans or for actual children.

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Tae posted:

90 percent of media is trash

I hear this quote pop up a lot and it's a horribly "superior-alistic" soundbyte. I've always felt that it's a "cream rises to the top" kind of situation, the percentage is a useless number so the expression would better be stated as "a small minority of media is worth consumption".

Unless it's anime in which case "majority=gargabe" sounds pretty reasonable.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

ElMaligno posted:

Mad Bull 34 is a pretty loving bad early 1990 anime featuring ultraviolence, fanservice, cops and racism. Then again almost any anime that was made in the early 90s and depends heavily is going to be trash.

Mad Bull 34, BAOH, MD Geist, Violence Jack - there is no shortage of completely awesome, exceptionally terrible anime

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Tae posted:

90 percent of media is trash, the only difference is that people don't have a filter built up for anime yet. Mentioning monster whatever is basically the same as going "ride to hell/hatred is awful, that's why games are all terrible!"

ADTRW has a wiki with a page dedicated to recommending series to new people, as well as an 11 year old thread about Legends Of Galactic Heroes. LOGH is 110 episodes Sci-fi space Opera anime that features space Germans, space British, space battles, space axes and a dude wetting himself with space bottled water while shirtless.



It also features poo poo like this:



Sometimes you just have to embrace the weirdness to enjoy a good anime.

Bleep
Feb 7, 2004

After reading that anime isn't cool, I switched country and started dedicating my entire life to Russianimation. Weird monochrome post apocalypse girl is my жена.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqf81U8RoU

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

HMS Boromir posted:

Chip & Ironicus did something like anime Abject Suffering a while ago, though it was talking over the episodes rather than podcasting after watching them. It was pretty successful, but I think it was just one guy with an encyclopedic knowledge of badime feeding them suggestions. I don't know if the greater corpus of bad anime has a lot more stuff like this or if it's mostly just boring or objectionable.

The guy feeding Chip & Ironicus anime was Zorak, the mod of ADTRW at the time. You really need someone with that level of anime knowledge to find the right level of bad.

I love anime, but I got sick of anime podcasts years ago because so much of it is incredibly bland, especially if you watch anime for 10+ years. I've basically accepted that I probably won't bother watching more than one or two new shows a year. Also I think I outgrew listening to the kind of people who do anime podcasts.

Legend of Galactic Heroes is legitimately really, really good. It might be the only sci-fi series I've seen where the ship battles make some logical sense (not just space dogfighting). Fist of the North Star is cool too, I just started a rewatch, but it's definitely a show for people who are already fans of the genre.


edit: I used to go out of my way to watch lovely new anime, but then I watched about 1.5 episodes of a show where little girls turn into airplanes and stand in one place shooting lasers at lovely cg aliens and decided I had enough of that. Ridiculous 80s/90s shows about robots and cussing will never stop being funny.

Twitch fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Aug 13, 2015

gallilee
Jul 24, 2001

Imagine when you're about to get your dick sucked by the alien from aliens and she's like "ahaha guess i gotta bring out my little mouth for this one"
Holy poo poo!!
The trolling of Nick Breckon in GTA 5 on the latest idle thumbs is goddamn hysterical!
Watch it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMUe7qMxM1s

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


ElMaligno posted:

Sometimes you just have to embrace the weirdness to enjoy a good anime.

Trying to frame LOGH that way makes little sense since it's actually just a pretty straightforward historical drama that doesn't really partake in most modern embarrassing anime tropes, outside of general flamboyancy of some characters and Japanese cultural stuff like "if you're over 30 you might as well be dead". It's a show that is 90% people in rooms sitting and talking. I feel like the only reason it isn't live action is because it's in space.

I'm going through it now and it's fantastic. It's so progressive for its time, and it's kind of crazy how relevant its politics are to what's going on in the world right now.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Hakkesshu posted:

Trying to frame LOGH that way makes little sense since it's actually just a pretty straightforward historical drama that doesn't really partake in most modern embarrassing anime tropes, outside of general flamboyancy of some characters and Japanese cultural stuff like "if you're over 30 you might as well be dead". It's a show that is 90% people in rooms sitting and talking. I feel like the only reason it isn't live action is because it's in space.

I'm going through it now and it's fantastic. It's so progressive for its time, and it's kind of crazy how relevant its politics are to what's going on in the world right now.

LOGH has some weird poo poo from time to time, but since the series is so good people don’t notice the weird poo poo. Still there is always something in it me and gamers can relate to:

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

gallilee posted:

Holy poo poo!!
The trolling of Nick Breckon in GTA 5 on the latest idle thumbs is goddamn hysterical!
Watch it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMUe7qMxM1s
It's brilliant that someone managed to give the mechanical bull ride animations a real purpose.

SoulChicken
Sep 19, 2003

mek it fuhnki
Given Danielle's move to NYC, I don't expect her to continue to be on Idle Thumbs (they've never used Skype for guests). How will I get my analysis of iPhone anime games?????

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

gallilee posted:

Holy poo poo!!
The trolling of Nick Breckon in GTA 5 on the latest idle thumbs is goddamn hysterical!
Watch it!
Following a hunch and the resulting short breadcrumb trail, apparently that's a hack/mod called "GTA V Menace", with a menu that includes "Attach to Player (Back)" and "Explosive Bullets".

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax

SoulChicken posted:

Given Danielle's move to NYC, I don't expect her to continue to be on Idle Thumbs (they've never used Skype for guests). How will I get my analysis of iPhone anime games?????

I think Jala on The Level might be able to provide.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nQB9VDuVu0

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


TetsuoTW posted:

It doesn't help that most of the anime that makes it to the English-speaking world is either the kind that would appeal to English-speaking anime fans or for actual children.

There's not really any filter on anime making it outside Japan at all, besides Toonami I guess, which only airs on Saturdays past midnight and is like 90% shows for actual children. Outside of that it's a giant undifferentiated cloud of stuff on the internet and a giant hub of creeplords at 4chan. Good shows not in the vein of Cowboy Bebop you would have to basically select at random if you didn't know what they were to begin with

ja2ke
Feb 19, 2004

SoulChicken posted:

Given Danielle's move to NYC, I don't expect her to continue to be on Idle Thumbs (they've never used Skype for guests). How will I get my analysis of iPhone anime games?????

Your brain will continue to imagine that content from thin air for you just like it does now.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Will you be using that conferencing service you've been advertising on thumbs to keep her on the show? :v:

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

SoulChicken posted:

Given Danielle's move to NYC, I don't expect her to continue to be on Idle Thumbs (they've never used Skype for guests). How will I get my analysis of iPhone anime games?????

Pick up Match Three, Gita has you covered.

KoldPT
Oct 9, 2012
Just start calling Nick Breckon Danielle. Nobody will notice.

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al-azad
May 28, 2009



I got around to listening to the Tomba episode of WOFF and woo, it hurt. I played the game to completion a few years ago for a thread on this forum and overall enjoyed it. I totally agree with all the criticisms, it is an unforgiving game that demands you to check out every area each time you complete something seemingly unrelated.

With that said I finally decided to check out Tomba 2 after thinking it looked like trash for 15 years. And boy, they fixed practically every issue with the first game. There's an actual structured plot that guides you through the game. It's basically structured as a Metroid style adventure where you have a clear path but there are multiple (in this game's case dozens) of side areas and quests to explore. You attack instantly, no Castlevania style windup. There are giant arrows that show where you can go in the foreground and background. The points are actually used to open some chests as rewards and the optional items don't make the game necessary but simply make sections easier. Best of all, there are no lives, no bottomless pits, no loving spiked floors, less environmental things to gently caress you, and dying lets you continue at whatever transition point you left off like a proper video game.

Controls are still floaty but by balancing the game a ton I can forgive it. Everything is 3D now so they pull back the camera to reveal your path ahead which eliminates leaps-of-faith and colliding headlong into a waiting enemy. I know you guys hoped Whoopee Camp got murdered by Jason Vorhees but before they died they released their redemption, a legitimately good game I can safely recommend to people. Tomba loves you!

I think the worst thing I can say about it having not finished it yet is that it's held back by its technology. If this was a PS2 game with the same tech behind Jak & Daxter, it would have been an A+ instead of a B.



fatherboxx posted:

Mad Bull 34, BAOH, MD Geist, Violence Jack - there is no shortage of completely awesome, exceptionally terrible anime

Add Angel Cop to the list, it's so much trash but so fun to watch.

al-azad fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Aug 14, 2015

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