Board Game Thread 4e: The Call of Catan

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The End: Apr 16, 2007; You're welcome.

Sentinels really is an amazingly bad game though.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 10:24

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# ? May 10, 2024 18:14

Azran: Sep 3, 2012; And what should one do to be remembered?

The End posted:

Sentinels really is an amazingly bad game though.

I have never played Sentinels - how does it differ from, say, the LOTR LCG?

# ? Aug 15, 2015 11:04

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Azran posted:

I have never played Sentinels - how does it differ from, say, the LOTR LCG?

In LOTR, you make choices.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 11:18

CaptainApathyUK: Sep 6, 2010

Oh, the Shut up and Sit Down Gencon video is up. I wonder if it'll actually have anything about games in rather than just them trolling designers and being unfunny like last year.

Don't be silly, of course it's just them dicking around for 20 minutes.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 11:49

Scyther: Dec 29, 2010

Honestly I thought it was slightly funny. Plus they do all of the actual games talking on the Gencon live podcast.

And if you don't think it's helpful for people to go into excruciating detail about how lovely Sentinels is to save the casual reader from mistakenly thinking Sentinels is a good or well regarded game, maybe go start "The Echo Chamber Thread For Being Positive About Board Games And Telling People What They Want To Hear Always."

Scyther fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Aug 15, 2015

# ? Aug 15, 2015 12:10

Azran: Sep 3, 2012; And what should one do to be remembered?

Today I met someone who paid the equivalent of $500 to import Dead of Winter. :psyduck:

# ? Aug 15, 2015 12:13

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Had a buddy start playing Warhammer Quest on his phone and now he is pretty determined to either get the game on ebay OR a game a lot like it.

Is there a game that is close to that style of game but updated since...1994? I think that is when the game dropped.
Descent or something like that or did those games add a ton of new/complicated stuff?

edit: Should point out he likes the random stuff that happens in town/to dungeons and I don't personally know if that is strictly in the App version or if the board game itself had that sorta random element tossed in or not

Sounds like he would enjoy Talisman: The Magical Quest Game :getin:

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27627/talisman-revised-4th-edition

# ? Aug 15, 2015 13:15

Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

Azran posted:

Today I met someone who paid the equivalent of $500 to import Dead of Winter.

See this is why we need to keep up the Bad Game Rhetoric.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 14:55

Tiny Chalupa: Feb 14, 2012

Rutibex posted:

Sounds like he would enjoy Talisman: The Magical Quest Game
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27627/talisman-revised-4th-edition

This actually looks pretty well priced and might just be right up the alley my buddy is looking for.

Anyone else have thoughts on this game or a piece of poo poo in disguise?

# ? Aug 15, 2015 15:37

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

Tiny Chalupa posted:

This actually looks pretty well priced and might just be right up the alley my buddy is looking for.

Anyone else have thoughts on this game or a piece of poo poo in disguise?

He's trolling you.

An actual good dungeon craw game is Arcadia Quest. You get a ton of characters, each player has a guild, you level up and get loot, etc. doesn't require a DM player either, monster so is handled by other players during your turn. It's fast playing and has a lot of content in the box.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 15:49

Azran: Sep 3, 2012; And what should one do to be remembered?

Bottom Liner posted:

He's trolling you.

Are you sure about that?

# ? Aug 15, 2015 15:57

Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

The only thing Talisman is good for are the figures and thanks for reminding me I had it so I can paint those suckers up.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:00

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

Azran posted:

Are you sure about that?

I don't know anymore. I can't keep straight who is a troll and who just has bad opinions here.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:03

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

Skyl3lazer posted:

I couldnt find a copy of Shattered Empires but I was told that if I just make the Imperium card worth 1 instead of 2 then it was fine.

The new cards are considered better and more interactive in general. But using Imperium II fixes the specific issue of mandatory taking of Initiative or Imperium when available.

It's been awhile for me, does the required victory point count go down with ImpII or am I thinking of something else?

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:23

Ohthehugemanatee: Oct 18, 2005

Trasson posted:

Telling someone who enjoys SotM not to get any expansions is completely reasonable. Board games are not a free commodity one summons from thin air. If a person asks which $40 add-on they want for a pretty subpar product, it's a fair statement to tell them their money is better spent elsewhere.

Oh, and I'll take BSG's expansions over Sentinel's. At least then your time and money are going to an actually different experience even if it is the Ionian Nebula. Sentinel's adds in all of two heroes over the course of its expansions who provide interesting turn by turn decisions. That's two heroes of two dozen.

Nightmist and The Naturalist are not good enough to recommend any expansion at all unless you're a die-hard fan. And if you are, you don't need a recommendation on which expansion to get. If you're looking for more Sentinel's after the base game, then you're going to be fine with whatever anyway because the expansions have as much to differentiate another as Munchkin sets.

In short, if telling anyone someone not to buy Sentinels expansions isn't helping anyone, then I guess I'm going to keep being an obstructionist rear end in a top hat, because it's not unhelpfulness, it's a goddamn public service announcement.

You sound like a lot of fun.

When you see ultimate frisbee players, do you knock the frisbee down and give them a lecture on playing a better designed and more competitive sport? Do you lecture basketball players on the inherent flaws of a game where height differences can matter more than skill? Spend a lot of time in Starbucks lines lecturing people on their inferior coffee choices?

Giving an un-asked for and rude critique of a thing is not a public service. In the real world we call it "being a dick." If the dude had asked what people think about Sentinels then by all means, open fire. But he didn't. If someone asks about Kemet strategies, it is not an implicit invitation for me to tell them why I don't like the game and how they should play something else.

The odd thing too is that it's easy to critique a thing politely if you absolutely feel the need. "Sentinels? I think I liked the expansion that adds the Chrono Ranger and the Omnitron hero. To be honest though, the more I played the game the more aggravated I got at it, so I'd be leery of picking up too many expansions. It's just too easy for the game to generate no-win or no-challenge scenarios and after one too many of those it starts to lose its shine."

See that? That's a recommendation and a polite critique all wrapped together. What the dude got though was "LOL BURN YOUR GAME" and "WELL HERE IS A LIST OF WHY THE GAME IS poo poo. POINT THE FIRST..."

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:29

apropos to nothing: Sep 5, 2003

Ohthehugemanatee posted:

You sound like a lot of fun.

When you see ultimate frisbee players, do you knock the frisbee down and give them a lecture on playing a better designed and more competitive sport? Do you lecture basketball players on the inherent flaws of a game where height differences can matter more than skill? Spend a lot of time in Starbucks lines lecturing people on their inferior coffee choices?

Giving an un-asked for and rude critique of a thing is not a public service. In the real world we call it "being a dick." If the dude had asked what people think about Sentinels then by all means, open fire. But he didn't. If someone asks about Kemet strategies, it is not an implicit invitation for me to tell them why I don't like the game and how they should play something else.

The odd thing too is that it's easy to critique a thing politely if you absolutely feel the need. "Sentinels? I think I liked the expansion that adds the Chrono Ranger and the Omnitron hero. To be honest though, the more I played the game the more aggravated I got at it, so I'd be leery of picking up too many expansions. It's just too easy for the game to generate no-win or no-challenge scenarios and after one too many of those it starts to lose its shine."

See that? That's a recommendation and a polite critique all wrapped together. What the dude got though was "LOL BURN YOUR GAME" and "WELL HERE IS A LIST OF WHY THE GAME IS poo poo. POINT THE FIRST..."

muh board games

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:33

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

Speaking of, I'm playing Kemet for the first time tonight, what are some good newbie strategies?

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:38

Fate Accomplice: Nov 30, 2006

Ohthehugemanatee posted:

You sound like a lot of fun.

Giving an un-asked for and rude critique of a thing is not a public service. In the real world we call it "being a dick."

This isn't the real world, dude. It's the subforum of a comedy forum on the internet talking about pushing paper and wood around printed boards according to arbitrary rules.

Bottom Liner posted:

Speaking of, I'm playing Kemet for the first time tonight, what are some good newbie strategies?

I've only played it a couple times, but I cannot stress this enough: be aggressive. You can't turtle in Kemet and reasonably expect to win. You're meant to be fighting every couple turns.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:41

Dr. Lunchables: Dec 27, 2012; IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD

I forgot why I hated this thread. gently caress, you guys are bad at analogies.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:52

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

I just want to say I appreciate the "your game sucks crew". Although they are sometimes abrasive they know their games well and I've found that if they immediately start calling a game poo poo when it's mentioned it's usually true. I've saved myself buying some bad games thanks to them.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 16:56

OmegaGoo: Nov 25, 2011; Mediocrity: the standard of survival!

Tiny Chalupa posted:

This actually looks pretty well priced and might just be right up the alley my buddy is looking for.

Anyone else have thoughts on this game or a piece of poo poo in disguise?

Rutibex is our resident pet troll. We love him regardless.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Mage Knight yet. It has all the good things of a dungeon delve game.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:02

PerniciousKnid: Sep 13, 2006

Lord Frisk posted:

I forgot why I hated this thread. gently caress, you guys are bad at analogies.

This thread is the Stephen Feld of designing analogies.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:07

fozzy fosbourne: Apr 21, 2010

PerniciousKnid posted:

This thread is the Stephen Feld of designing analogies.

Bora Bora is like the modern Mustang convertible. People are gonna hate on it based on reputation, but take it out as a rental on an island with your friends and it's just fun! Not my daily driver, though

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:15

signalnoise: Mar 7, 2008; i was told my old av was distracting

Myth v.2 is kinda like the Scion FRS. Mechanically it was redesigned by an external party and is actually pretty good though its lost marketing goodwill by its association to its original maker. And it's aesthetically pretty rad.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:19

Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

I'm in the market for a classic Audi Quattro S1 board game. You know, from the golden age of ~~schedule B rally racing~~ push your luck board gaming. Failing that, what's a good Subaru WRX game? Thanks.

I'm serious here. I like cars and board games.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:29

Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

Ohthehugemanatee posted:

You sound like a lot of fun.

When you see ultimate frisbee players, do you knock the frisbee down and give them a lecture on playing a better designed and more competitive sport? Do you lecture basketball players on the inherent flaws of a game where height differences can matter more than skill? Spend a lot of time in Starbucks lines lecturing people on their inferior coffee choices?

Giving an un-asked for and rude critique of a thing is not a public service. In the real world we call it "being a dick." If the dude had asked what people think about Sentinels then by all means, open fire. But he didn't. If someone asks about Kemet strategies, it is not an implicit invitation for me to tell them why I don't like the game and how they should play something else.

The odd thing too is that it's easy to critique a thing politely if you absolutely feel the need. "Sentinels? I think I liked the expansion that adds the Chrono Ranger and the Omnitron hero. To be honest though, the more I played the game the more aggravated I got at it, so I'd be leery of picking up too many expansions. It's just too easy for the game to generate no-win or no-challenge scenarios and after one too many of those it starts to lose its shine."

See that? That's a recommendation and a polite critique all wrapped together. What the dude got though was "LOL BURN YOUR GAME" and "WELL HERE IS A LIST OF WHY THE GAME IS poo poo. POINT THE FIRST..."

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:30

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Bottom Liner posted:

Speaking of, I'm playing Kemet for the first time tonight, what are some good newbie strategies?

First action: Buy +1 att
Second action: Buy + 1 def

Laugh as you win game if your playing against other newbs. Good players will not allow this to happen.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:32

signalnoise: Mar 7, 2008; i was told my old av was distracting

Chill la Chill posted:

I'm in the market for a classic Audi Quattro S1 board game. You know, from the golden age of ~~schedule B rally racing~~ push your luck board gaming. Failing that, what's a good Subaru WRX game? Thanks.

I'm serious here. I like cars and board games.

Have you checked Kickstarter

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:32

fozzy fosbourne: Apr 21, 2010

Chill la Chill posted:

classic Audi Quattro S1 board game.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:33

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

Chomp8645 posted:

First action: Buy +1 att
Second action: Buy + 1 def

Laugh as you win game if your playing against other newbs. Good players will not allow this to happen.

As in my pyramid levels or a tile that gives those?

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:41

Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

fozzy fosbourne posted:

Ra

Whoa I already have that! No wonder I enjoy it! :smoobles:

signalnoise posted:

Have you checked Kickstarter

They are both good cars :mad:

Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Aug 15, 2015

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:45

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Bottom Liner posted:

As in my pyramid levels or a tile that gives those?

The power tiles. They are both first level powers, +1 Att is red and +1 Def is blue. This will require you to start with red and blue pyramids. If you want to get really ballsy you open with those and then beeline the level 3 Red tile that gives +1 all battles. If your opponents gently caress up enough to let you grab +1 Att, +1 Def, and +1 All the game is basically in the bag.

Although I forgot sometimes that this is dependent on player count since I only ever play four or five player matches.. In a 5-player game for example the other players have hugely hosed up if anyone is allowed to +1 att and +1 def. But in a three player game it's not crazy at all.

e: also if you were planning to play this game with just two people then ABORT ABORT!!!

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:47

Poopy Palpy: Jun 10, 2000; Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

OmegaGoo posted:

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Mage Knight yet. It has all the good things of a dungeon delve game.

We just went over this. Don't buy games from WizKids.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:53

signalnoise: Mar 7, 2008; i was told my old av was distracting

What's the board game analogy for a Gumpert

# ? Aug 15, 2015 17:54

OmegaGoo: Nov 25, 2011; Mediocrity: the standard of survival!

Poopy Palpy posted:

We just went over this. Don't buy games from WizKids.

But... but... Mage Knight!

# ? Aug 15, 2015 18:05

Gimnbo: Feb 13, 2012; e m b r a c e t r a n q u i l i t y

OmegaGoo posted:

Rutibex is our resident pet troll. We love him regardless.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Mage Knight yet. It has all the good things of a dungeon delve game.

Shame on you if you think Rutibex is anything but sincere.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 18:11

Tekopo: Oct 24, 2008; When you see it, you'll shit yourself.

The problem with my age knight is that it is a good game but you are still helping wizkids to stay afloat.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 18:12

Bottom Liner: Feb 15, 2006; a specific vein of lasagna

Print and play it.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 18:15

Dr. Lunchables: Dec 27, 2012; IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD

You guys are killing me

# ? Aug 15, 2015 18:15

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# ? May 10, 2024 18:14

Kai Tave: Jul 2, 2012; Fallen Rib

Bottom Liner posted:

He's trolling you.

An actual good dungeon craw game is Arcadia Quest. You get a ton of characters, each player has a guild, you level up and get loot, etc. doesn't require a DM player either, monster so is handled by other players during your turn. It's fast playing and has a lot of content in the box.

Tell me more about Arcadia Quest. My game store has a copy but I overlooked it thinking "oh, a dungeon crawl board game with flashy art, probably gonna be a style over substance thing," but if it's actually decent I'd love to know more details. I've also been thinking about picking up Wrath of Ashardalon which I've heard good (if not exceptional) things about as a fantasy SWAT team simulator.

# ? Aug 15, 2015 18:17

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