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uninterrupted posted:Uh, Apple isn't shipping malware on its phones OR its computers. iOS is malware
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uninterrupted posted:Uh, Apple isn't shipping malware on its phones OR its computers. Apple is case where they pursue profits rather than marketshare. That's sort of their thing. It's why they have a 90% marketshare of computers over $1000 and take 85%+ of the profits from smartphone manufacturing. That's also why everyone else is hosed because they're competing for table scraps from customers who don't want to pay for a quality product. ilkhan posted:Nope. Superfish and the more recent example show what Lenovo cares about, and its not the Again, you're acting like others are better when they're all pissing in the same pool. Lenovo will be the worst until someone else does something then someone else and then it's the industry standard. I'm not sure I see how that isn't the endgame.
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LastInLine posted:Apple is case where they pursue profits rather than marketshare. That's sort of their thing. It's why they have a 90% marketshare of computers over $1000 and take 85%+ of the profits from smartphone manufacturing. You said "What other sustainable option is there?" My point is that there obviously is one, it's just more effort than most manufacturers are willing to expend.
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Phone: Moto G LTE. OS: 4.4.4. Lately it has become more and more of annoyance how little time it takes until an app I have recently used will have to start from scratch when I switch back to it. Let's take an example: 1) I use Chrome and surf a website 2) I press the home button and then use Facebook Messenger for just 20 seconds 3) I press the tab button (the one that shows the list of running apps) and switch back to Chrome 4) Result: Chrome appears to "restart" and takes its time to render and reload the entire page again It's even worse when I switch back to my GPS program, where it apparently doesn't know how to go into standby mode, so it restarts all over again, cancelling any current navigation. It's not because the app has been updated, because I have automatic updating turned off. I didn't seem to remember it was this bad just a few months ago (I've had the phone for a year now). I realize apps aren't allowed to chug away in the background forever, but how can even Chrome have to restart all over after being inactive for 20 seconds? Is is a setting, or is something totally hosed, and should I just reset and/or upgrade to 5.0?
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Pilsner posted:Phone: Moto G LTE. OS: 4.4.4. It's because your Moto G has 1gig of ram and Moto phones are kind of notorious with bad memory management. Upgrading to Lollipop probably won't help
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this_is_hard posted:It's because your Moto G has 1gig of ram and Moto phones are kind of notorious with bad memory management. Upgrading to Lollipop probably won't help quote:I didn't seem to remember it was this bad just a few months ago (I've had the phone for a year now)
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You are updating your apps though, right? Barring any specific issues with Motorola phones, of which I personally remember absolutely none from this thread over the past year or so, it's because as apps get updates, they use more and more and more RAM and processor time to support the additional features provided in those updates.
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Aug 15, 2015 17:39
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Pilsner posted:To quote myself
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ilkhan posted:Restart the phone, see if it keeps doing it. Could be a memory leak somewhere. the littlest prince posted:You are updating your apps though, right? Barring any specific issues with Motorola phones, of which I personally remember absolutely none from this thread over the past year or so, it's because as apps get updates, they use more and more and more RAM and processor time to support the additional features provided in those updates. These guys are correct. It is 100% a memory issues; it could be because apps are demanding more resources/you have more of them, and the 1GB of RAM is becoming a road block, or it could be a memory leak somewhere. If you can do so without too much hassle, a factory reset will likely help, too.
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Pilsner posted:To quote myself Well it does sound like a memory issue. Android doesn't use swap so your apps are either in memory or they're not, and when memory starts to get low the system will go looking for things to purge. It sends out a message that it's getting ready to lay some smack down, and apps have an opportunity to make themselves smaller and avoid getting kicked out, which will usually involve ditching big in-memory resources like renderered webpages and such, so they can keep their state and regenerate the big stuff instead of having to start over There are a few different warning levels and apps are free to act (or not) on any of them, so when it dumps everything (or doesn't and gets purged) is down to the app, and the warning levels you hit depend on what else is going on on the device. Other stuff is obviously going to lean on your memory usage more, better-behaved apps will dodge the banhammer and leave something else in the firing line, and things like services have a higher priority than background apps, so if you're running more of those that leaves less room for the apps to hold big data So basically it's complicated and there's no way of knowing exactly what's changed and what's causing it. If you go into Settings > Apps > Running and look at what's around if you like - the 'Running' part is your foreground app (probably Settings) and then any stuff with services running, which take priority. Hit the menu button and you can look at the cached background processes, which are your apps that aren't in the foreground and are just hanging around in memory, and they'll be the first to get cleared. If you have any big processes with services that you don't care about, that might be the place to look
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IuniusBrutus posted:These guys are correct. It is 100% a memory issues; it could be because apps are demanding more resources/you have more of them, and the 1GB of RAM is becoming a road block, or it could be a memory leak somewhere. If you can do so without too much hassle, a factory reset will likely help, too. That is true also take in mind that the Facebook app is a space and RAM hose. My wife has a phone with 1.5gb RAM and every 2-3 weeks I have to clear the app cache for her or it becomes unusable (and anything you use it with). My sister has a 2013 G and has no issues with ram but then she never uses the facebook app or chrome, she uses facebook through firefox browser and the phone is snappy on lollipop.
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wooger posted:Does it behave the same in the Chrome browser on android?  Do native wrappers use browsers set to default as their web viewers? (not sure what the right technical term is) I normally use ABP's Adblock Browser beta, which iirc is modified Firefox.
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uninterrupted posted:You said "What other sustainable option is there?" My point is that there obviously is one, it's just more effort than most manufacturers are willing to expend. Is there that option though? You'll have a tough time convincing me that there's room for two manufacturers who give a poo poo. Maybe there is, I really don't know. Aside from maybe automobile manufacturing I can't think of an industry where it's the case.
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LastInLine posted:Is there that option though? You'll have a tough time convincing me that there's room for two manufacturers who give a poo poo. Maybe there is, I really don't know. Aside from maybe automobile manufacturing I can't think of an industry where it's the case. heh...look at this goon who's never heard of Vertu.
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LastInLine posted:Is there that option though? You'll have a tough time convincing me that there's room for two manufacturers who give a poo poo. Maybe there is, I really don't know. Aside from maybe automobile manufacturing I can't think of an industry where it's the case. Clothing?
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Guillermus posted:That is true also take in mind that the Facebook app is a space and RAM hose. My wife has a phone with 1.5gb RAM and every 2-3 weeks I have to clear the app cache for her or it becomes unusable (and anything you use it with). My sister has a 2013 G and has no issues with ram but then she never uses the facebook app or chrome, she uses facebook through firefox browser and the phone is snappy on lollipop. I'm not sure if it's a bug or just the Facebook app (the regular one, not the messenger) eating RAM like crazy, but it was making my phone unusable recently. Uninstalling it felt like using a new device.
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thoughts on the Huawei P8max ? http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-7200.php My note 3 is bound to get replaced soon as I've been having some mic issues / whoever is talking with me would hear his voice. My condolences for anyone who waited for the note 5.
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shalnark posted:thoughts on the Huawei P8max ?
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shalnark posted:thoughts on the Huawei P8max ? And I thought the Mate 7 was big with 6", holy poo poo 6.8" that makes a Nexus 6 an iPhone 
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I took a couple of minutes to confirm this because I don't have Chrome set as my default browser, and was going to start blaming Android's Webview for my trouble. Had to do a back-and-forth comparison between native app and Chrome. It's significantly better on Chrome. Since Lollipop, WebView has been Chromium-based and is updated via Play. Edit: To comment on your actual issue, natively wrapped web-apps are frequently build using off-the-shelf "frameworks" (e.g. PhoneGap), many of which are of dubious quality. The idea is that they write all the code for you but in practice they often produce a lovely looking non-accelerated laggy mess. The problem is not your phone or the WebView or Android, it's the idiots who "wrote" that app. Tunga fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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I recently switched from Sprint to T-Mobile and in the process switched to an S6 (first time I've gone off of Nexus). Everything with the phone is great save for one issue. If I do a Speed Test on WIFI, download is right where it should be but when it comes to uploading...nothing happens. This is cropping up in some, but not all apps. Can't send pictures in SnapChat or Facebook Messenger, but can upload them to Facebook and have no trouble running a video chat through Skype. Any input? Edit: Upload works on other WiFi networks. All my other Android devices have no upload issue on my home network. jisforjosh fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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SMERSH Mouth posted:My iPhone 6 committed suicide by jumping off a boat and I needed a fast & cheap replacement but didn't want to shrink my screen too much, so I'm now the proud owner of a 1st generation Moto X. Purchased used, off eBay, from a seller who apparently offloads old stock that was returned to Motorola but not refurbished. Pilsner posted:Phone: Moto G LTE. OS: 4.4.4.
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shalnark posted:thoughts on the Huawei P8max ? 6.8"? My thought is just loving why. I'm honestly getting kind of annoyed with this whole surfboard-sized phone trend. It's getting to the point where Apple makes the only decently sized phone anymore, and that's sad.
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Daily Forecast posted:6.8"? Time to invest in a manpurse?
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Tunga posted:WebView is a system component, it is part of the OS and does not depend on any particular browser that may (or may not) not be installed. Prior to Lollipop the WebView was a thing that was written for Android years ago and it was a bit of a shitheap. I'm not sure where it came from originally, possibly some old version of WebKit or it might have been entirely custom built for Android. These versions are sometimes called Dalvik WebView. Many thanks for the clarification. I'm getting the impression that Chrome is a far better way to run any demanding JavaScript-based thing than anything else.
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jisforjosh posted:I recently switched from Sprint to T-Mobile and in the process switched to an S6 (first time I've gone off of Nexus). Everything with the phone is great save for one issue. If I do a Speed Test on WIFI, download is right where it should be but when it comes to uploading...nothing happens. This is cropping up in some, but not all apps. Can't send pictures in SnapChat or Facebook Messenger, but can upload them to Facebook and have no trouble running a video chat through Skype.
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Nalin posted:Try wiping your cache. That fixed a weird problem I had with data transfers. I do that every time I have an OTA update now. Tried it, twice now. Still nothing
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Daily Forecast posted:6.8"? I guess testing the extreme of phablets, where it truly combines your tablet and phone for reading / media viewing. I remember seeing my friends sony xperia z ultra and finding it funny, guess the jokes on me now for thinking about this .
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ruby idiot railed posted:Somebody's already talked about the WiFi thing (I'm not sure the attribution to the problem is correct, however) but here's the Video app thing: Totally concur on the Video/'Other' Storage issue. I managed accidentally download a Game of Thrones episode..Took up 5GB of Other storage and I had to restore to get rid of it.
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So what's the consensus on Ambient Display on the Nexus 6? I looked back at the beginning of the thread just to check and didn't find much talk about it.
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ruby idiot railed posted:Yep, it shows up in Usage under "Other", but Video.app stream caching is what causes it. Oh that sounds like iTunes. What about on device in General > Usage > videos?
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ThermoPhysical posted:So what's the consensus on Ambient Display on the Nexus 6? I looked back at the beginning of the thread just to check and didn't find much talk about it. i think it looks aesthetically more pleasing than the moto active display but is less useful
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GWBBQ posted:Found your problem.
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this_is_hard posted:i think it looks aesthetically more pleasing than the moto active display but is less useful Does it use more battery life?
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Pilsner posted:Facebook Messenger just totally kills a phone or something? Now that I think of it, I started using FB Messenger about 2 months ago, and it coincides fairly well with how I feel it has been sluggish lately. :/ You're best just using the Facebook website if you need it. The apps are the source of a fair few performance and battery issues people encounter.
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This current generation of phones is just awful because it's either a consistent poo poo sandwich (Samsung), a laughable hype-train device that is impossible to actually obtain (Oneplus), not out yet (Nexus), somehow worse than touchwiz (LG), a portable stove for emergency situations (HTC), or gutted and soon to be replaced with literal malware okay device (Motorola). I don't know what to get because everything is bad and if I wasn't sticking with GV for my old number I would be strongly considering an iphone.
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Logikv9 posted:This current generation of phones is just awful because it's either a consistent poo poo sandwich (Samsung), a laughable hype-train device that is impossible to actually obtain (Oneplus), not out yet (Nexus), somehow worse than touchwiz (LG), a portable stove for emergency situations (HTC), or gutted and soon to be replaced with literal malware okay device (Motorola). Could always just go last-gen and pick up a Nexus 6, Moto X 2014, or...well, just those two, really. Or the Moto G 2015. I loved the feel of the Galaxy S 6 and the Nexus S but goddamn the Nexus 6 just takes the whale-sized cake for feeling really nice in the hand. I think the iPhone 6+ and Nexus 6 feel the best in the hand for me. Hopefully the Diztronic Ultra TPU won't change that. Anyone with that have any input on how it changes the feel? Is it heavier or thicker with those corners or just like a normal Diztronic but with bumps on the corners?
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Logikv9 posted:This current generation of phones is just awful because it's either a consistent poo poo sandwich (Samsung), a laughable hype-train device that is impossible to actually obtain (Oneplus), not out yet (Nexus), somehow worse than touchwiz (LG), a portable stove for emergency situations (HTC), or gutted and soon to be replaced with literal malware okay device (Motorola). I'm intrigued on how the Samsung is a poo poo sandwich
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vyst posted:I'm intrigued on how the Samsung is a poo poo sandwich Some people really, really hate touchwhiz, or care a lot how the phone looks externally and don't like cases?? I see where they're coming from, but don't really get why it gets the level of poo poo-talking it does. v  vMy S5 has been fine, and the folks I know with S6s like them. It really depends on what matters to you, I guess. Edit: from what I've seen I think their software used to be way worse. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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