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Skinny King Pimp posted:yeah, looks like an express lane or HOV lane and they open up every so often to merge back into regular traffic and sometimes have their own exits I know there would be very good reason why each of roads are laid out as they are, but when ever I see these type of pictures, I always just really feel like cable ties for roads should be a thing. Also I like how there seems to be a Government drivers licenses place right next to it. Good luck to any poor bastard who's first drivers test is navigating that mess.
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Aug 17, 2015 19:12
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dr_rat posted:I know there would be very good reason why each of roads are laid out as they are, but when ever I see these type of pictures, I always just really feel like cable ties for roads should be a thing. When I got my license in Georgia back in 96, the practical part of the driving exam involved a closed course with no real traffic. Just signs, cut outs of people, and cars in parking spots (several spots away from where I was asked to demonstrate my abilities). Basically no one is going to be told "okay now to be able to legally drive, go around the perimeter and then drive to Vortex".
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Aug 17, 2015 19:27
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Skinny King Pimp posted:yeah, looks like an express lane or HOV lane and they open up every so often to merge back into regular traffic and sometimes have their own exits I'm from a country where nothing is wider than 6 lanes. Both pictures makes me uneasy.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:26
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MikeJF posted:I don't have much experience but I really do feel like all american suburbs need is decent cheap fast train runs into the city. yeah it sucks that the closest stop on our high speed rail/subway is about as long a drive as it takes to drive into Boston itself, and that city has TWO stops on the T. Massachusetts is tiny that poo poo should go through the whole state, or at least the eastern part. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Aug 17, 2015 23:29
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Honest question. What cities in the US are actually good for people who don't have cars? How good is public transit in most of Europe?
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Aug 17, 2015 23:37
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Accretionist posted:Trees, I hope. The closer cityscape looks to forest, the better. you might enjoy scenic anchorage alaska  no one else does, however e: here's a close up the weird wedding cake in the middle 
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Aug 17, 2015 23:37
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The Skeleton King posted:Honest question. What cities in the US are actually good for people who don't have cars? How good is public transit in most of Europe? boston, but you actually have to live IN the city. You can walk most anywhere, the T just makes it easier.
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Aug 17, 2015 23:49
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The Skeleton King posted:Honest question. What cities in the US are actually good for people who don't have cars? New York. Philly's not bad. D.C. (although the metro there shuts down ridiculously early). quote:How good is public transit in most of Europe? Something I think that people are missing is that while Europe moves far more people by rail, the USA moves a far higher proportion of goods by rail than Europe does. Something like 80% of all landbound freight in Europe goes by road, it's closer to 90% in the UK. A rail network optimized for moving freight sucks at moving people, and vice versa.
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Aug 17, 2015 23:59
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The Skeleton King posted:Honest question. What cities in the US are actually good for people who don't have cars? I never needed a car when living in Chicago.
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Aug 18, 2015 00:04
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The Skeleton King posted:What cities in the US are actually good for people who don't have cars? San Francisco is good for no cars, except for certain outer neighborhoods. We could do much better if we killed one more freeway. San Francisco's bus and light rail system, MUNI, gets a bad rap from lots of locals who rely on it, which I find annoying. An extensive, crowded mass transit system is an indicator of good transit, mostly empty buses and trains are a bad sign, IMO. Point to point time isn't great, but it's not terrible either. Everything about transit in San Francisco could be improved if we eliminated a lot of free and cheap parking, and jacked up the price of the remainder. So says our lord and savior Donald Shoup, for ever and ever amen.
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Aug 18, 2015 00:53
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Roy posted:Genuine question. Where is the "hip" part of Houston? Is there any?
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Aug 18, 2015 00:57
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The Skeleton King posted:Honest question. What cities in the US are actually good for people who don't have cars? How good is public transit in most of Europe? The ones that are pretty good overall: NYC Boston Washington DC Chicago San Francisco Philadelphia LA, Portland and Seattle have pretty good transit in some parts and bad public transit in other parts, as do some other cities. Everywhere else is complete poo poo with buses that come like once per hour, if they have buses at all. And outside of the big cities, high speed rail is considered to be an evil liberal communist gay illuminati conspiracy to enslave America.
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Aug 18, 2015 02:33
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Hermsgervørden posted:Everything about transit in San Francisco could be improved if we eliminated a lot of free and cheap parking, and jacked up the price of the remainder. So says our lord and savior Donald Shoup, for ever and ever amen. That wouldn't actually improve public transit though, it'd just make it better in comparison to driving which would become far more inconvenient.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:02
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The Skeleton King posted:How good is public transit in most of Europe? Prettu good overal and in comparison to thr US. That's because there is less sprawl and the cities are more compact. I used to live in a city of less than 100,000 and I took the bus every day to uni. If you want to travel between cities you can take one of the frequent trains. Of course, if you live in a rural area you won't find too many buses and the trains may not stop but that's to be expected. The difference to the US is that in Europe you could take a car, if you wanted to (car isn't necessarily faster), while in the US you pretty much have to, even in larger cities.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:20
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Irradiation posted:Look how dumb you are https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7844367,-95.4647707,104a,20y,270h,83.19t/data=!3m1!1e3 I was shocked (shocked!) to discover how dumb I was upon searching for the original to only find that -was- the original. My only comfort is that I'm not as dumb as the traffic engineer that signed off on that flagrant kickback to the cement plant, good lord.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:33
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Irradiation posted:Look how dumb you are https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7844367,-95.4647707,104a,20y,270h,83.19t/data=!3m1!1e3 Reminds me of this: https://www.google.com/maps/@19.7775615,96.1196801,308m/data=!3m1!1e3, which also belongs here for being utterly useless I suppose.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:54
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wyntyr posted:When I got my license in Georgia back in 96, the practical part of the driving exam involved a closed course with no real traffic. Just signs, cut outs of people, and cars in parking spots (several spots away from where I was asked to demonstrate my abilities). Basically no one is going to be told "okay now to be able to legally drive, go around the perimeter and then drive to Vortex". Atlanta drivers are loving poo poo too. It's like someone excised the most tumorous growth in LA and airlifted it across the continent only to drop it in central georgia. it's great and amazing and i take solace in the fact that i am, by default, the best driver on the loving road simply by virtue of being from somewhere else
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Aug 18, 2015 04:33
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The worst part about American public transit is the people who think it would magically be better if it was suddenly really annoying to drive yourself places. Can you imagine being forced to walk a few blocks in a shithole like downtown Sacramento or Stockton.
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Aug 18, 2015 04:46
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Bogan Krkic posted:That wouldn't actually improve public transit though, it'd just make it better in comparison to driving which would become far more inconvenient. Actually it would, because the biggest source of slowdowns for busses is double parked cars, and cars circling looking for spots. Correctly pricing parking alleviates both those conditions, partly by discouraging car trips altogether, but also discouraging storing cars in curbside spots. Variable pricing which responds to demand helps to keep spots open, so cars can park without searching endlessly, saturating roads to gridlock and blocking transit routes. Buses (and cars) move faster through their routes, decreasing total trip times and increasing total route capacity.
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Aug 18, 2015 05:14
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pik_d posted:Reminds me of this: https://www.google.com/maps/@19.7775615,96.1196801,308m/data=!3m1!1e3, which also belongs here for being utterly useless I suppose. Hey, I just watched that episode of Top Gear. At least it's good for a game of football or racing lorries.
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Aug 18, 2015 06:43
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Seattle has objectively garbage public transit, people only take it because the city is also horrible for driving.
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Aug 18, 2015 07:23
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drat NIGGA posted:I want to get off Mr. Eisenhower's wild ride Why is it still congested? Is it just the pure numbers of cars, making it inevitable that jams will happen? Are big cities with really huge population doomed to these kinds of traffic congestion?
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Aug 18, 2015 09:49
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toanoradian posted:Are big cities with really huge population doomed to these kinds of traffic congestion? Also many US cities are massive sprawls with low population density so building mass transit becomes very expensive in relation to how many people each stop's pick up area can cover. Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 11:40
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The best thing is when they put in a subway and rich neighborhoods actively don't want access to it, because they all have cars, and if the subway were there then those people might have an easier way into their fancy urban enclave. DC has a couple spots like this, it owns. I also kinda love how Baltimore has all of one subway line, but one end of it is a few miles from my house and the other end is a few blocks from my office. I have basically the only commute in the entire stupid suburbs where public transit works for me, and I use that poo poo every day.
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Aug 18, 2015 12:20
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ANAmal.net posted:The best thing is when they put in a subway and rich neighborhoods actively don't want access to it, because they all have cars, and if the subway were there then those people might have an easier way into their fancy urban enclave. DC has a couple spots like this, it owns. Fewer stops for the rest of us.
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Aug 18, 2015 12:44
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I wonder how many small cities have good public transit? Like, I went to Linuxfest Northwest in Bellingham, WA and their bus coverage is better than most cities'. Next year, I don't think I'll even bring my car. I'm pretty sure anyone working days or in the downtown could go for weeks in between having to use a car. And if they don't mind bicycling, they probably wouldn't even need one. And it's just a college town of 80K. I wonder how many generally unknown cities with good public transit there are?
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Aug 18, 2015 12:44
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Accretionist posted:I wonder how many small cities have good public transit? The fact that it's a college town is probably a major cause of a good bus infrastructure.
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Aug 18, 2015 12:55
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padijun posted:you might enjoy scenic anchorage alaska That looks kind of nice, tbh. Of course, it lies at about the same latitude as me but doesn't have the gulf stream and sheltered location to moderate the weather, so I imagine it will be kind of dreary for half the year. Computer viking fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 14:20
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Rah! posted:The ones that are pretty good overall:  ), then take the light rail for 15-20 minutes to get to work. Or I could just drive from my apartment to work and be there in 20 minutes. I guess it works better if you commute from suburbs to the city rather than the opposite, but hey at least going the opposite way means traffic is fairly light both ways.
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Aug 18, 2015 14:44
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Hermsgervørden posted:Variable pricing which responds to demand helps to keep spots open, so cars can park without searching endlessly, saturating roads to gridlock and blocking transit routes. Yeah, but when Uber does "variable pricing which responds to demand," people lose their loving poo poo. toanoradian posted:Why is it still congested? Braess's paradox. There's a thread for traffic engineering in A/T. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 15:48
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http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2015/aug/18/preston-bus-station-design-makeover
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Aug 18, 2015 15:52
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drat NIGGA posted:I want to get off Mr. Eisenhower's wild ride Thought maybe that was the 401 in Ontario. Welcome to North America's widest/the world's busiest highway! Marvel at its 18 lanes of traffic!  Gaze in wonder at its seemingly nonsensical design!  Get stuck on it for hours after regular 40+ car pile-ups (available between Windsor and London on a 200km stretch of  See it with only one car after they begrudgingly closed it only because a giant propane factory exploded!  Be caught in its endless road widening and resurfacing!  But seriously, getting stuck on the 401 heading through or into Toronto for like 2 hours is something almost every Ontario driver gets to experience at least once. ghosthorse fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 17:15
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Phanatic posted:Yeah, but when Uber does "variable pricing which responds to demand," people lose their loving poo poo. I might be concerned about that if people weren't constantly losing their poo poo over parking already.
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Aug 18, 2015 17:30
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Roy posted:Genuine question. Where is the "hip" part of Houston? Is there any? Austin?
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Aug 18, 2015 17:31
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ghosthorse posted:Thought maybe that was the 401 in Ontario. Welcome to North America's widest/the world's busiest highway!  Mother of God.It baffles me that the powers that be didn't realize more lanes aren't going to help by 12 lanes or so.
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Aug 18, 2015 17:36
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I've been doing DC without a car since the beginning of the year, and though I sort of cheat because I have a motorcycle, my wife does not and it's been fine. Of course, we spend 80% of what we'd spend on a car riding Uber...
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Aug 18, 2015 17:41
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Tim Raines IRL posted:I've been doing DC without a car since the beginning of the year, and though I sort of cheat because I have a motorcycle, my wife does not and it's been fine. Buy your wife a motorcylce, it's cheaper than the impending divore imo.
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Aug 18, 2015 17:43
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Cleveland has what I consider good public transportation for its size (300k people). The issue is that so many jobs left Cleveland for the suburbs, and the transportation system is definitely not good in the suburbs. Cleveland has three train lines, and buses all over the place, with one rapid bus line that takes people from downtown to two main ares, Cleveland Clinic and Case Western. Train coverage could really use some improvement, but that is unlikely to change, and the buses only come every 15-20 minutes. If they got their poo poo together with actually charging people, they might be able to afford a better system.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:
The actual Sim City transit guy is probably on the board in Ontario
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