Archeage Thread for Stable Normal People

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hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Hey time to read the archeage forums.

Here's a good one

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Extra Compensation Demanded for Naima players
I will try to be as civil as possible as I write this, despite the boiling anger I have within me.

On behalf of all the Naima players who were misled up till the last update that Naima was "not considered for evolution", I want to express the anger and the frustration that we feel here.

Yes, we do not want Evolution. All the updates thus far, until the last one, had led us to believe that Naima was fine.

Other servers who had been on the Evolution list had been informed over two months beforehand.

During that time, they could and would have;
1) Decided if they wanted to transfer or stay for the merge
2) Liquidated their assets accordingly, with the ample time (over 2 freaking months) to find suitable buyers, either ingame or cross-section via forums posts. Heck, some even found cross-server buyers, if they shared the same auction house cluster.
3) Casually created free account pack mules and moved their stuff as their time for playing Archeage permits.

Naima players will not have this luxury.

Even now, fire sales are breaking out on our server. Whether it be crafting mats, trade pack mats, and various properties.

Naima players are in a panic, and rightly so.

It's late in the night, and players are as active as ever. Not because they are happily enjoying the game, but because if they miss this window to sell their excess mats and lands, they will be stuck with it, and lose them all come merger time.

I can't even imagine when the morning comes, and more Naima players wake up to this cruel, this sudden, this unexpected betrayal.

Trion team. What you have done is an insult, hurtful, and disrespectful of your players in Naima.

I am going to lose half my guild to this horrendous cock-up.

Give us something to convince our fellow Naima players not to quit Archeage altogether.

Make it good. Make it big.

Make us stay.

#Naimaplayersmatter

#respectourplaytime

# ? Aug 18, 2015 15:39

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# ? May 22, 2024 14:40

Schubalts: Nov 26, 2007; People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

That is pretty drat rude for Trion to do. Lead a server on like that, and then surprise them with that news.

# ? Aug 18, 2015 16:24

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

holy lmao #naimaplayersmatter

# ? Aug 18, 2015 16:42

Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

That's some Carbine level goodness from Trion. :getin:

# ? Aug 18, 2015 16:52

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

#Naimaplayersmatter

Holy gently caress.

# ? Aug 18, 2015 17:00

wfwon: Apr 19, 2012

Schubalts posted:

That is pretty drat rude for Trion to do. Lead a server on like that, and then surprise them with that news.

To be fair, all the previous updates Trion posted have stated that the servers affected by the merge are tentative and could still be subject to change.

But oh god, the forum tears, lol

# ? Aug 18, 2015 17:33

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

Wait wait wait, players lose items upon the merger? How does that loving work? Is it because its tied to housing or something?

This is hilarious anyways.

# ? Aug 18, 2015 17:40

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

#allplayersmatter

# ? Aug 18, 2015 17:45

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

ArcheAge players gonna crash a Bernie rally.

# ? Aug 18, 2015 17:47

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Chomp8645 posted:

ArcheAge players gonna crash a Bernie rally.

Why is Bernie in their mom's basement?

# ? Aug 18, 2015 18:36

wfwon: Apr 19, 2012

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Wait wait wait, players lose items upon the merger? How does that loving work? Is it because its tied to housing or something?

This is hilarious anyways.

I think anything that is not is not tied down to your inventory or storage will be gone (eg: your chest storage).

# ? Aug 18, 2015 18:41

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

hakimashou posted:

Hey time to read the archeage forums.

Here's a good one

did they really reappropriate black lives matter as a way to express their outrage over a video game server merger

LOL

# ? Aug 18, 2015 18:45

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Eonwe posted:

did they really reappropriate black lives matter as a way to express their outrage over a video game server merger

LOL

Hashtag activism is stupid anyhow

# ? Aug 18, 2015 19:44

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

So today I got a random email about this server-merge business and immediately went to this thread. And it looks like the first drama is already happening! The thread does not disappoint. :allears:

# ? Aug 18, 2015 20:07

Morglon: Jan 13, 2010; Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Yeah but that's not the kind of "how will they shoot themselves in the foot for no reason" that happened around launch, people saw this coming for ages, since shortly after launch in fact. The only surprise is it took them this long.

# ? Aug 18, 2015 22:43

Dasyati: Nov 7, 2011

So HackShield is EOL and getting removed with the next update. Trion is claiming to be holding off on adding XL's replacement rootkit of choice, GameGuard, until certain "functionality and stability requirements" are met and/or "an alternate solution can be found."

I don't know much about GameGuard except that people hate it more than HackShield. But it sounds like the game is going to be devoid of any anti-cheat software whatsoever for a little while... could be interesting to watch.

Regarding GG though, is it as horrible as everyone seems to suggest?

# ? Aug 20, 2015 09:53

Fauxtool: Oct 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dasyati posted:

So HackShield is EOL and getting removed with the next update. Trion is claiming to be holding off on adding XL's replacement rootkit of choice, GameGuard, until certain "functionality and stability requirements" are met and/or "an alternate solution can be found."

I don't know much about GameGuard except that people hate it more than HackShield. But it sounds like the game is going to be devoid of any anti-cheat software whatsoever for a little while... could be interesting to watch.

Regarding GG though, is it as horrible as everyone seems to suggest?

gameguard is literally a rootkit that cant be disabled from task manager and causes more harm to the non-hackers. GG was busted wide open from day 1. It causes less false positives, but also much more trouble when it comes to simply launching the game.

It works by referencing a list of known hacks. All the free hacks are detected and pretty much none of the private ones are.

Tell me if you think anyone hacks in these games: Rohan: Blood Feud, Lineage II, 9Dragons, Cabal Online, Phantasy Star Universe, GunZ: The Duel, Metin2, Flyff, Rappelz, Luna Online, PangYa, Prius Online, Ragnarok Online and Alliance of Valiant Arms

They all use Gameguard.

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Aug 20, 2015

# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:06

gwrtheyrn: Oct 21, 2010; AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

On the other hand, maybe it will work on windows 10 :v:

# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:08

Fauxtool: Oct 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

gwrtheyrn posted:

On the other hand, maybe it will work on windows 10

it actually specifically doesnt work on win10.

Get hosed

# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:10

gwrtheyrn: Oct 21, 2010; AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Fauxtool posted:

it actually specifically doesnt work on win10.

Get hosed

Well neither does hackshield apparently, so poo poo software is still poo poo

# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:51

Fauxtool: Oct 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

a lot of the invasive anti-piracy measures like securom dont either, making the pirated version of several games the only ones that work on win10

# ? Aug 20, 2015 11:21

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

About Archeage-crafting: I've tried to wrap my head around it, but failed for now, due to :effort:

on my part. For now it looks like you have to expend money for a lot of things, like just making dried flowers. Is that it? You buy poo poo and use it up? Isn't there a way to make your own tools?

Right now I'm thinking back to FFXIV's crafting and seriously consider going back, even though it costs money to play and Archeage doesn't. I guess you get what you pay for, or I'm missing something about Archeage-crafting. :shrug:

# ? Aug 20, 2015 18:25

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Libluini posted:

About Archeage-crafting: I've tried to wrap my head around it, but failed for now, due to on my part. For now it looks like you have to expend money for a lot of things, like just making dried flowers. Is that it? You buy poo poo and use it up? Isn't there a way to make your own tools?

Right now I'm thinking back to FFXIV's crafting and seriously consider going back, even though it costs money to play and Archeage doesn't. I guess you get what you pay for, or I'm missing something about Archeage-crafting.

It costs so little as to be irrelevant once you're past level 10 or so

# ? Aug 20, 2015 18:44

Dasyati: Nov 7, 2011

Libluini posted:

About Archeage-crafting: I've tried to wrap my head around it, but failed for now, due to on my part. For now it looks like you have to expend money for a lot of things, like just making dried flowers. Is that it? You buy poo poo and use it up? Isn't there a way to make your own tools?

Some ingredients you have to buy from the NPC merchants, but the total cost is almost always less than the price of the final product on the auction house minus fees. You're spending your labor to make profit, and the profit goes back into crafting.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 18:48

ruffz: Dec 20, 2007

Fauxtool posted:

gameguard is literally a rootkit that cant be disabled from task manager and causes more harm to the non-hackers. GG was busted wide open from day 1. It causes less false positives, but also much more trouble when it comes to simply launching the game.

It works by referencing a list of known hacks. All the free hacks are detected and pretty much none of the private ones are.

Tell me if you think anyone hacks in these games: Rohan: Blood Feud, Lineage II, 9Dragons, Cabal Online, Phantasy Star Universe, GunZ: The Duel, Metin2, Flyff, Rappelz, Luna Online, PangYa, Prius Online, Ragnarok Online and Alliance of Valiant Arms

They all use Gameguard.

I didn't play any of those games, but I recall playing at least one MMO that used Gameguard and it was a steaming heap of horse poo poo. Didn't stop any of the real hackers, and was just a nuisance for everyone else. Not surprising that Trion is using it despite that. They're completely incompetent.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 18:56

gwrtheyrn: Oct 21, 2010; AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

ruffz posted:

I didn't play any of those games, but I recall playing at least one MMO that used Gameguard and it was a steaming heap of horse poo poo. Didn't stop any of the real hackers, and was just a nuisance for everyone else. Not surprising that Trion is using it despite that. They're completely incompetent.

Basically every korean developed game uses gameguard or hackshield, and they're both worthless

# ? Aug 20, 2015 19:00

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

ruffz posted:

I didn't play any of those games, but I recall playing at least one MMO that used Gameguard and it was a steaming heap of horse poo poo. Didn't stop any of the real hackers, and was just a nuisance for everyone else. Not surprising that Trion is using it despite that. They're completely incompetent.

Trion is not using GameGuard, intentionally, learn to read.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 19:09

Fauxtool: Oct 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

PCOS Bill posted:

Trion is not using GameGuard, intentionally, learn to read.

not intentionally, because they cant right now. It doesnt meet their minimum standards of being terrible

# ? Aug 21, 2015 10:32

Meskhenet: Apr 26, 2010

What you are missing witht he mergers is that they are canning 6 servers, but making 4 new ones.

I repeat

they are canning 6 servers because there isnt enough players on them,

and making 4 servers that are somehow going to be magically filled to the brim with players.

(exactly how they are going to keep the players that dont get their land back remains a complete mystery that they totally even refuse to pretent they consider, but hey..)

And this is because their original plans of only canning 4 servers and making 3 new ones didnt fit their numbers...

They also claim they will monitor the land rushes, but then again they are claiming that people will actually be able to log in (which all of the previous major events have shown is definetly not something to count on.)

The next few weeks in AA will be glorious. I wonder if you can bet on this going smoothly somewhere.

# ? Aug 21, 2015 11:11

wfwon: Apr 19, 2012

Well at least with the last patch, red dragons in karkasse became a hotspot for faction PvP. Had 3 raids of west factions (all working together, heh) fighting against the east, and killed the red dragons.

On the other hand, everything else are still crap.

# ? Aug 21, 2015 18:19

kloa: Feb 14, 2007

AA did have some great pretty princess opportunities tho

:rip:

# ? Aug 21, 2015 19:11

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Meskhenet posted:

What you are missing witht he mergers is that they are canning 6 servers, but making 4 new ones.

I repeat

they are canning 6 servers because there isnt enough players on them,

and making 4 servers that are somehow going to be magically filled to the brim with players.

(exactly how they are going to keep the players that dont get their land back remains a complete mystery that they totally even refuse to pretent they consider, but hey..)

And this is because their original plans of only canning 4 servers and making 3 new ones didnt fit their numbers...

They also claim they will monitor the land rushes, but then again they are claiming that people will actually be able to log in (which all of the previous major events have shown is definetly not something to count on.)

The next few weeks in AA will be glorious. I wonder if you can bet on this going smoothly somewhere.

lol

# ? Aug 21, 2015 20:33

Charles Bukowski: Aug 26, 2003; Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner; Grimey Drawer

You know, this game ain't that bad. Its still entertaining us 8 months after we all quit.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 10:24

Fauxtool: Oct 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Charles Bukowski posted:

You know, this game ain't that bad. Its still entertaining us 8 months after we all quit.

well everything except the game is pretty good

# ? Aug 22, 2015 10:41

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

ArcheAge is actually really fun

# ? Aug 22, 2015 16:12

SweetBro: May 12, 2014; Did you read that sister?
Yes, truly a shitposter's post. I read it, Rem.

Hey what do Worker's Comp potions go for now? I remember when this game started, I speculated like 500g worth of potions when they were around 5g-7g each.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 20:57

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

SweetBro posted:

Hey what do Worker's Comp potions go for now? I remember when this game started, I speculated like 500g worth of potions when they were around 5g-7g each.

Like 70g last I looked

# ? Aug 22, 2015 21:45

ruffz: Dec 20, 2007

Charles Bukowski posted:

You know, this game ain't that bad. Its still entertaining us 8 months after we all quit.

Much like EVE online, where I spent 5x more time reading about the game than actually playing it. But there's a big difference, EVE is still a successful game after 12 years. ArcheAge swirled down the toilet bowl within 3 months.

# ? Aug 24, 2015 18:31

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

but what a 3 months

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Uziduke: Jul 2, 2015; A storm over Europe unleashed
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Since HS is going away, does thta mean we cna now run more than one client on a PC? That was one of my main issue about the game.

# ? Aug 24, 2015 21:47

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