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If President Walker can be impeached because he takes prescription medication and has nebulous ties to a foreign campaign-finance scandal, then dammit, Hillary can be taken down over her emails.
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Spaceman Future! posted:For all we know you are injecting heroin directly into the eyes of trafficked Ethiopian children as we speak, does this unsubstantiated claim give anyone the right to demand you release your personal communications so that we can look for proof of the things we are making up on the fly? If I was under investigation for some sort of behaviour (that a decent chunk of the citizens believe is a compromise of national security)to which I have complied with in all previous steps, sure. The investigator can look at my WIP pictures of a potting bench and shoe rack. If they have a vendetta against my political career that makes them release some emails about what I had for lunch they look like petty assholes, if they release emails calling Tony Blair a douchebag then whatever if im POTUS he's not gonna stop sucking american cock, and by one year from now it will just be another Benghazi.
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Trump is doing a town hall tonight in New Hampshire. Anyone know if this will be streamed online anywhere? I'm eager to yell at the TV.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:11
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Neurolimal posted:If I was under investigation for some sort of behaviour (that a decent chunk of the citizens believe is a compromise of national security)to which I have complied with in all previous steps, sure. The investigator can look at my WIP pictures of a potting bench and shoe rack. She literally released classified mail that was on her server over. There is not any doubt that she had it, the investigation is, and can only be limited to, her handling of classified material, so what other "shady" mail do you think could possibly have been deleted that falls into that scope when she has already turned over mail that WAS classified, which was the entire point of the investigation? What behavior do you think she is under investigation for and what relation do you think that has to this completely unrelated fishing expedition you want performed for unrelated "shady" emails?
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Neurolimal posted:And if he might have committed additional crimes or illicit/shady behavior on the server, its okay if he deletes some "personal emails" before handing it over? Basically you're pulling some guilty until proven innocent bullshit and it's bogus. Correct operating procedure is to wipe your servers after they've been used for sensitive stuff and you've backed up what needs to be turned over. point of return posted:The most terrible behavior Joe Arpaio has done is stuff that he does openly because the white people of Arizona love the heinous things he does. This is correct. The man is clearly responsible for deaths. Neurolimal posted:If I was under investigation for some sort of behaviour (that a decent chunk of the citizens believe is a compromise of national security)to which I have complied with in all previous steps, sure. The investigator can look at my WIP pictures of a potting bench and shoe rack.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:12
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Spaceman Future! posted:She literally released classified mail that was on her server over. There is not any doubt that she had it, the investigation is, and can only be limited to, her handling of classified material, so what other "shady" mail do you think could possibly have been deleted that falls into that scope when she has already turned over mail that WAS classified, which was the entire point of the investigation? I wouldn't be surprised if the deleted emails had little to do with compromised classified emails. At the same time the fact that they were deleted prior to the turnover makes me, a citizen (not a lawyer or judge), concerned about that shady behaviour.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:15
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Neurolimal posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the deleted emails had little to do with compromised classified emails. At the same time the fact that they were deleted prior to the turnover makes me, a citizen (not a lawyer or judge), concerned about that shady behaviour. Depending how they were "deleted" they can potentially be easily recovered by investigators. I'd assume it was just private poo poo since it's you know, a private email server.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:18
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Nintendo Kid posted:Basically you're pulling some guilty until proven innocent bullshit and it's bogus. Correct operating procedure is to wipe your servers after they've been used for sensitive stuff and you've backed up what needs to be turned over. Innocent until Proven Guilty is an integral aspect of our law system, but is not a requirement before being wary of actions or citizens; everyone in this thread, at one point or another, has held reasonable doubt about the intentions of another citizens' actions. This wariness is not illegal nor morally reprehensible.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:18
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“That’s [the] legitimate side of this. Better enforcement so that you don’t have these, you know, ‘anchor babies’, as they’re described, coming into the country.” -Jeb!
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Aug 19, 2015 22:27
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GalacticAcid posted:“That’s [the] legitimate side of this. Better enforcement so that you don’t have these, you know, ‘anchor babies’, as they’re described, coming into the country.” That's impressively stupid of him to say. I may have misunderestimated Jeb.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:28
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Winkie01 posted:Cruz: "We should end granting automatic birthright citizenship to the children of those who are here illegally."' This made me wonder how many countries have a birthright citizenship. Apparently Mexico does. UK got rid of theirs in 1983, France in 93. The Link for more info
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Aug 19, 2015 22:29
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Mitt Romney posted:That's impressively stupid of him to say. I may have misunderestimated Jeb. It's genetics. At least W owns up to it with some folksy charm bullshit.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:29
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It is interesting that we have all this leaked information about the contents of the classified Clinton emails, like the fact that some of them were discussing the use of drones. I'm sure that Trey Gowdy's House Committee on Benghazi will get to the bottom of where those leaks are coming from.Spaceman Future! posted:She literally released classified mail that was on her server over. I don't watch Fox News, so I'm not up-to-date on all the minutiae of this, but last I heard none of the emails were marked as classified when they were sent to her server.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:31
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Neurolimal posted:Innocent until Proven Guilty is an integral aspect of our law system, but is not a requirement before being wary of actions or citizens; everyone in this thread, at one point or another, has held reasonable doubt about the intentions of another citizens' actions. This wariness is not illegal nor morally reprehensible. oh ok well since you recognize that you dont have a leg to stand on and your argument is based wholly on how you believe things should be handled and not how the planet actually handles them then I guess we have nothing to argue about.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:32
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GalacticAcid posted:“That’s [the] legitimate side of this. Better enforcement so that you don’t have these, you know, ‘anchor babies’, as they’re described, coming into the country.” Jeb!'s landmine marathon continues so funtax, you were saying about Jeb! not being a bomb-thrower on immigration? 
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Aug 19, 2015 22:35
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Holy poo poo that "Jeb is deliberately trying to lose" conspiracy theory almost sounds plausible at this point, he has perfected the art of answering questions in such a way as to piss off basically the entire political spectrum.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:36
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GalacticAcid posted:“That’s [the] legitimate side of this. Better enforcement so that you don’t have these, you know, ‘anchor babies’, as they’re described, coming into the country.” Anchor babies are so 2010. It's all about terror babies these days.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:40
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MaxxBot posted:Holy poo poo that "Jeb is deliberately trying to lose" conspiracy theory almost sounds plausible at this point, he has perfected the art of answering questions in such a way as to piss off basically the entire political spectrum. JEB! is the star of a coming political farce based off of "Brewster's Millions."
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Aug 19, 2015 22:41
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Woah I guess Jeb! said this yesterday too.quote:"If you create encryption, it makes it harder for the American government to do its job—while protecting civil liberties—to make sure that evildoers aren’t in our midst." Encryption, very dangerous 
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Aug 19, 2015 22:45
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With Jeb trying to blow himself up and everyone forgetting about Walker, I bet Rubio is pretty happy right about now.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:46
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Gyges posted:Hillary did a thing that previous Secretaries of State had done, but to a greater degree. When the inevitable outrage machine started up, she stonewalled because that's what Clintons do when face to face with the outrage machine. While not a particularly good idea, totally shady, and wrong, Clintons actions will turn out to be technically legal or at worst nonpunishable. We've got a few more weeks or so of EMAILGHAZI before a new round of scandal starts up. The new scandal will of course range in severity from Chipotle tipping to Vince Foster. lol if you think that mishandling classified information, is a -ghazi situation. It's actually a very super serious offense and not at all a "lol everybody does that" thing.
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Joementum posted:Anchor babies are so 2010. It's all about terror babies these days. Which one have the cantaloupe calves?
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Aug 19, 2015 22:47
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Something I don't get, what sort of damning evidence are people assuming that Hillary deleted?
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Aug 19, 2015 22:48
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Wanamingo posted:Something I don't get, what sort of damning evidence are people assuming that Hillary deleted? FROM: Hillary TO: Obama CC: CIA, DOD, Sid Blumenthal, Lanny Davis SUBJECT: Funny Idea BODY: Hey, what if we gave Susan Rice some fake talking points to downplay this who Libya thing? Betcha that would make Mitt Romney look bad and advance our agenda of establishing the global Caliphate.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:51
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Spaceman Future! posted:oh ok well since you recognize that you dont have a leg to stand on and your argument is based wholly on how you believe things should be handled and not how the planet actually handles them then I guess we have nothing to argue about. This is a surprisingly hostile response to "person finds the fact that Clinton deleted email before handing the server iver suspicious". Arguing over legality of an action may appeal to lawyers, but not to people wary of your chosen candidate.
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Wanamingo posted:Something I don't get, what sort of damning evidence are people assuming that Hillary deleted? Given historical obsessions, I think the GOP really wants Bill's dick pics.
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Neurolimal posted:Innocent until Proven Guilty is an integral aspect of our law system, but is not a requirement before being wary of actions or citizens; everyone in this thread, at one point or another, has held reasonable doubt about the intentions of another citizens' actions. This wariness is not illegal nor morally reprehensible. Your ideas on how things should be operated are taken under advisement, but I must remind you that your ideas don't comport with the law or generally accepted practices, or the rules in force during Clinton's tenure. Maybe you should have emailed her a reminder on your preferred practices when she was SecState? Neurolimal posted:This is a surprisingly hostile response to "person finds the fact that Clinton deleted email before handing the server iver suspicious". Arguing over legality of an action may appeal to lawyers, but not to people wary of your chosen candidate. She deleted them before there was even an investigation by all reports.
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Wanamingo posted:Something I don't get, what sort of damning evidence are people assuming that Hillary deleted? The great thing about witchhunts is that you don't know until you find it! It makes everything more exciting that way.  Edit: And it lends itself to endless empty theorizing by the media. Very effective for filling air time! Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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Aug 19, 2015 22:53
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Wanamingo posted:Something I don't get, what sort of damning evidence are people assuming that Hillary deleted? Lobbyist legislation, more closed-doors backtracking of liberal promises to donors, location of Jimmy Hoffa's grave, etc.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:54
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Nintendo Kid posted:She deleted them before there was even an investigation by all reports. Because her word has been totally worth something to this point regarding this.
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Aug 19, 2015 22:55
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Nintendo Kid posted:She deleted them before there was even an investigation by all reports. You say this a lot, could you provide an article determining the time these emails were deleted?
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Aug 19, 2015 22:56
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Bobby Digital posted:Given historical obsessions, I think the GOP really wants Bill's dick pics. if they got them Fox News would be indistinguishable from gay porn for a week
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Aug 19, 2015 22:56
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It's good to see there's at least one Bush man who doesn't actually want to be elected.
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JetsGuy posted:Because her word has been totally worth something to this point regarding this. It is, guy who randomly hates Hillary. Neurolimal posted:You say this a lot, could you provide an article determining the time these emails were deleted? Where's the evidence that she deleted them after? Nowhere, that's where. Not even the Republicans setting up this whole dumb investigation say that.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:07
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Slate Action posted:With Jeb trying to blow himself up and everyone forgetting about Walker, I bet Rubio is pretty happy right about now. He's coming to my little town on the first. I'll ask him how he feels about it.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:10
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Wanamingo posted:Something I don't get, what sort of damning evidence are people assuming that Hillary deleted? FROM: Hillary TO: Ambassador Stevens CC: Sean Smith, Tyrone S. Woods, Glen Doherty SUBJECT: LOL NUBS BODY: Boom, head shot
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Neurolimal posted:This is a surprisingly hostile response to "person finds the fact that Clinton deleted email before handing the server iver suspicious". Arguing over legality of an action may appeal to lawyers, but not to people wary of your chosen candidate. What exactly is hostile about saying that I cant argue with your opinion after you admit that you have no backing whatsoever to feel the way you do? Ok, thats how you feel, neat, schizophrenics think butterflies whisper secrets, neither have any basis in fact. If you consider the reality of that hostile maybe you should do a bit of self evaluation.
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Nintendo Kid posted:It is, guy who randomly hates Hillary. Find an email on a gov server that was sent to that address and responded to. If it's no longer there then......."somebody's doing the deleting"
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Dahn posted:Find an email on a gov server that was sent to that address and responded to. If it's no longer there then......."somebody's doing the deleting" Oh thank god weve got Burt Macklin over here, the investigation would be lost without you.
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