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Sakurazuka posted:Don't play the PSP version it has some of the worst loading times I've ever seen in a game, like there's a loading pause in between lines of dialogue. Even if you have the digital version. the windows 8 version is perfectly fine and fixes that problem
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Quest For Glory II posted:I think Wild Arms 2 was hosed before there ever was a translation Wild Arms 2 is awesome.
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Aug 20, 2015 03:45
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Thanks peeps, I was just curious cause I saw someone on my friends list who had a platinum in it and it confused me. ---
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Aug 20, 2015 05:07
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I have people on my PSN friends list who've platinumed Time and Eternity. Does that mean it's a good game?
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Aug 20, 2015 05:43
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:I have people on my PSN friends list who've platinumed Time and Eternity. Does that mean it's a good game? no e: noooooooo
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Aug 20, 2015 05:44
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it means you have mentally ill people on your PSN friends list
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Aug 20, 2015 05:45
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seriously, this isn't even the "everything is poo poo" games meme. time and eternity is infamously terrible.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:45
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Cake Attack posted:it means you have mentally ill people on your PSN friends list
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Aug 20, 2015 05:49
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Please do not play Time and Eternity. Please do not play it in an ironic 'lol, it's so funny bad' way. Please do not play it to spite me. Just don't play it. It is very bad.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:55
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Looks like poo poo too. Like an early From Software game but with someone glueing an wriggling anime to the screen to make it look third-person.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:00
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SelenicMartian posted:Looks like poo poo too. Like an early From Software game but with someone glueing an wriggling anime to the screen to make it look third-person.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:10
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time and eternity is another game that's better than ni no kuni
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Aug 20, 2015 06:25
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what's so bad about time and eternity, apart from the anime, and the battles seemingly taking forever, and the cheap graphics/dialogue?
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Aug 20, 2015 06:34
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No Such Thing posted:what's so bad about time and eternity, apart from the anime, and the battles seemingly taking forever, and the cheap graphics/dialogue? "Literally everything but the music, which is good."
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Aug 20, 2015 06:57
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I got to the vacillating in the blood part of wild arms 2
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Aug 20, 2015 07:15
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So this is just a random question that popped into my head. It's no exaggeration or lie to say that, generally, Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger are considered the best SNES JRPGs with many saying they are the best JRPGs of all time. I'm not making claims to their actual quality, just stating what I've observed. But with the PS1, I've seen much less consensus. What are the fan favorites of the PS1? FFVII would seem an obvious choice ut it has its healthy share of "it's not as good as everyone says." Suikoden II kinda seems like FFVI and CT in that I see nothing but undying love for it.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:55
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7 is the mainstream favorite, Suikoden 2 is the cult favorite. FFT is also fairly universally praised, and the only real arguments over it come up over translation preferences. Everything else has its fair share of contention, but even the folks who talk poo poo about 7 generally agree that it was a good game; just maybe undeserving of all the praise it gets.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:04
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Strictly JRPGs? Final Fantasy 9, Star Ocean, first disc of Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden 2 and that Lunar Blue something or another are all p good. To stretch out a bit, Final Fantasy Tactics just owns even past nostalgia's sake. There's also Breath of Fire games, Front Mission(s), Wild Arms, and Vandal Hearts for games maybe not the first thing people think but are well regarded for the most part. DOUBLE CLICK HERE fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 08:09
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I really liked BOF4 but I know some people think BOF3 is a lot better
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Aug 20, 2015 08:10
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ImpAtom posted:"Literally everything but the music, which is good."
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Aug 20, 2015 08:11
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There's all sorts of reasons for that, during the SNES period very few RPG's got translated so you generally got 'the cream of the crop', during the early PS1 period translations took a real nose dive so even games like FF7 ended up with localisations worse than a SNES game, companies ended up getting weird and experimental with RPG's around then so you end up with a lot of games that are more flawed but interesting than actually good. Suikoden 2, Valkyrie Profile and like maybe a couple of the PS1 Tales games are the only ones I could recommend without a giant 'but'. Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 08:14
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The White Dragon posted:7 is the mainstream favorite, Suikoden 2 is the cult favorite. FFT is also fairly universally praised, and the only real arguments over it come up over translation preferences. Everything else has its fair share of contention, but even the folks who talk poo poo about 7 generally agree that it was a good game; just maybe undeserving of all the praise it gets. DOUBLE CLICK HERE posted:Strictly JRPGs? Final Fantasy 9, Star Ocean, first disc of Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden 2 and that Lunar Blue something or another are all p good. To stretch out a bit, Final Fantasy Tactics just owns even past nostalgia's sake. Back in the day Chrono Cross would have been a solid contender for Best PS1 JRPG. Now you can't talk about it anywhere without people making GBS threads on it. Sakurazuka posted:Suikoden 2, Valkyrie Profile and like maybe a couple of the PS1 Tales games are the only ones I could recommend without a giant 'but'. Are you talking more kind of obscure titles or would you lump FFVII and FFIX into that"but" category?
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Aug 20, 2015 08:23
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I like Persona 2 a lot but I'm not sure it holds up as well as some of these other PS1 JRPGs getting mentioned here. Of course, it's been 15+ years, so maybe they're all pretty ragged.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:27
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Since I don't like card games FF8 has no redeeming qualities for me apart from some nice music and FMV's and is one of my least favourite FF games, FF9 is a good game with the fatal flaw of running on a PS1 so it moves at about half the speed it should. I was including pretty much everything.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:28
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Motto posted:no  "I heard nothing like that at our secret HQ" "HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT OUR SECRET HQ!?"  . I had to sit and think for a moment to work out what' was so wrong with that camera - your screen is just a floating barebones camera with an anime girl pasted on, rather than any actual effort made to track the character itself.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:32
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Persona 2: Eternal Punishment was one of my top 5 games for a very long time. Then Innocent Sin came out. I've tried to play through that game 3 times and have failed every time. It just grinds me down. And the two games are not so different that I can say 'I bet I could still pop EP in and play through it without problems'. Of all the PS1 RPGs, Valkyrie Profile and FFT have probably aged best.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:32
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Goddamnit, I forgot to get ChopChop in BoF2.  It's not that bad to me, though; I consider it a sign that I like the game so much that I kept going through the story so I could see what happens next instead of having my eyes glued to a guide 24/7 so I can get everything the first time though and make thing super-easy.Also missed Cure2, because apparently the game thinks murdering one of the villagers in cold-blood is saving them. 
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Aug 20, 2015 08:36
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Thing I just realized: Secret of Mana is more like a beat em up than an rpg. How cool would it have been if, instead of charge attacks, you unlocked moves you could execute with combos. Also no attack magic.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:39
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Shibawanko posted:Thing I just realized: Secret of Mana is more like a beat em up than an rpg. How cool would it have been if, instead of charge attacks, you unlocked moves you could execute with combos. Also no attack magic. That's why Tales games are so good. Also Seiken Densetsu 3 and Legend of Mana started moving in that direction before Square went nuts and made nothing but bad Mana games after that.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:42
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Sakurazuka posted:Since I don't like card games FF8 has no redeeming qualities for me apart from some nice music and FMV's and is one of my least favourite FF games, FF9 is a good game with the fatal flaw of running on a PS1 so it moves at about half the speed it should. So you're just not a fan of the PS1 era? That's when I first fell in love with JRPGs, and Japanese stuff in general, so it's kinda always been my personal golden era for the genre. I guess it helps I like experimental stuff a lot.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:48
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closeted republican posted:Goddamnit, I forgot to get ChopChop in BoF2. Yeah, it's not that big a deal. It does fixed damage and not all that much of it, so it's mostly useful against a small handful of enemies with low HP and high defense, or as a replacement for Nina's normal attack when you want to conserve AP.
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I started jRPGs on the PSX, but really got into it with SNES RPGS like FF4 and Chrono Trigger.
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NikkolasKing posted:So you're just not a fan of the PS1 era? That's when I first fell in love with JRPGs, and Japanese stuff in general, so it's kinda always been my personal golden era for the genre. No I love lots of games from there, my two favourite RPG's are Xenogears and Vagrant Story, I also acknowledge that they're fundamentally flawed games I just don't care about the flaws.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:50
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Sakurazuka posted:No I love lots of games from there, my two favourite RPG's are Xenogears and Vagrant Story, I also acknowledge that they're fundamentally flawed games I just don't care about the flaws. Xenogears is also one of my favorite games ever. I can definitely see what you mean. Whenever I recommend Xenogears I do have the courtesy of adding "it's not for everyone." So yeah, from that point-of-view, I get what you're saying now.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:55
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Thuryl posted:Yeah, it's not that big a deal. It does fixed damage and not all that much of it, so it's mostly useful against a small handful of enemies with low HP and high defense, or as a replacement for Nina's normal attack when you want to conserve AP. Ah, well that's not a problem. AP won't be that much of an issue, since I make mage-type characters chug as many mana-restoring items as possible because of how useful spells are in games. The only problem is that I'll have poor Nina OD on AP-restoring items by the end of the game.
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Aug 20, 2015 09:00
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I can nitpick Suikoden 2 (bugs in the US version, translation does its job but no more) and Valkyrie Profile (Hard is easiest difficulty level, the conditions for the good ending are conveyed in the vaguest way possible) as well because nothing is ever perfect, the question is always wether the good outweighs the bad.
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For me the bugs in Suikoden 2 are almost charming in an odd sort of way, and at least one can be super useful if you're willing to exploit it. Others can be more frustrating but mostly only if you're an OCD completist going for all the recipes or something. The localization is harder to excuse but not unique in the series (Suikoden 3's was nearly as bad) or the genre back then. It's just a bit more egregious in this case, probably all the excess punctuation and exclamations. It's harder to ignore a bad translation when it's being shouted at you. It's an unfortunate black mark on what's probably my favourite game on the PS1.
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Sakurazuka posted:That's why Tales games are so good. Also Seiken Densetsu 3 and Legend of Mana started moving in that direction before Square went nuts and made nothing but bad Mana games after that. Yeah. I also think the Soul Blazer series basically tried to go for that, Terranigma had some pretty complex moves you could pull off. SD3 felt more like Chrono Trigger and went more in an RPG direction I think. Basically I don't like hybrid RPG combat systems like FF6 or Chrono Trigger where they tried to make it feel real time, that just makes me wish I could play an action game or something. I want it to be either purely cerebral, turn based calculation or an action game with RPG elements.
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I never really got into the Soul Blazer series past the first game. I tried Illusion of Gaia, but something never clicked for me and I dropped it early in the game. Same with Secret of Mana.
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