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Thanks, everybody. I ripped through the entire comic in a week, the last before the Gigapause ended, and I missed a lot of subtleties. I've reread multiple times since, but I'm still missing subtleties and obviousies.
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Prison Warden posted:I personally think it's fine to assume that ZenMaster realizes a bunch of the reasons why Hussie might have done stuff and still think it's bad rather than always acting like he just doesn't "get it". The troll ancestors stuff and the "everyone wants the retarded kid's dick" are legit not fun to read. Yeah I mean I understand Plom Bar posted:Those things are actually jokes in themselves though. But most of the trolls and their conversations in that chapter are/were kind of already overwrought (Some seem to be less purposely than others) jargon-filled text filler that was (at the time) super self-indulgent. It comes in the middle of a chapter that already feels like that and just makes it a slower more agonizing read. He then goes on to use those parts as set up for events later that are already set up. Every time Equius talked or a did a thing it already felt like Hussie just doing some big dumb poo poo for the sake of doing the big dumb poo poo and all of that sets up his death and uselessness fairly well. The troll ancestors stuff just feels kind of...weirdly lacking in self-awareness for something penned by Hussie. "I'm going to write something ironically long winded, self-important, and unfun to make a character seem more cool and likable and important!" he thought, not turning around to read the 50 troll textlogs he had just written about how Karkat hates himself so much he from the future comes in to yell about how lovely and pathetic of a leader he is. I mean usually those had enough jokes to cover up that poo poo, but a lot of the troll session conversations wear that thin veneer of comedy away quickly and fall right into over-wrought crap. And re: Jake's shtick I understand the big meta joke on his part, but because of that he kind of made 3 of the 6 characters we would be spending a long time with almost elusively (What, at least a fourth of the entire loving length of the comic) spend most of their time as one note jokes with very little interesting about them as people. That kind of sucks when 2 of the other characters were the Cherubs who are 1-joke characters by design. I like Roxy, but she didn't have a snowball's chance in hell in dragging up the three anchors she was stuck with back into being funny and not a bad read. The fact that that went on so long and went almost nowhere and then TRICKSTER MODE happened kind of made it feel that writing the Jake love triangle teen drama stuff had kind of just gotten away from Hussie. Which, whatever, it happens to all writers, good or bad, but that doesn't make it not an awful read. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 23:30
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A recurring flaw in internet serial media is that they will never progress beyond the first draft, and Homestuck is no exception.
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Aug 21, 2015 00:03
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Camp Homestuck sort of did, and came out better for it [on exactly one page]
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Aug 21, 2015 01:00
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PXS is sorta different cause the comics were made well in advance, rather than going up upon completion like Homestuck proper.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:38
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Renaissance Robot posted:Camp Homestuck sort of did, and came out better for it [on exactly one page] Camp Homestuck?
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Aug 21, 2015 02:39
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Burkion posted:Camp Homestuck? Summerteen Romance, which took place at Camp Sburb. Great job, Renaissance Robot.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:47
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Enourmo posted:Summerteen Romance, which took place at Camp Sburb. OH the Troll Mushroom Penis edits. Okay.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:27
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I like this comic even when there aren't any jokes in it.
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Aug 21, 2015 09:31
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Jia posted:I like this comic even when there aren't any jokes in it. but enough about calliope
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Aug 21, 2015 12:53
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Jia posted:I like this comic even when there aren't any jokes in it. This almost never happens, but I do enjoy the more serioust moments in Homestuck.
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Enourmo posted:Summerteen Romance, which took place at Camp Sburb. Obviously I got it wrong on purpose. For uh, irony. Yeah 
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I just assume everything in this thread is ironic until someone starts taking something too seriously, then it's just funny.
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Jia posted:I like this comic even when there aren't any jokes in it. See: Cascade, Game Over, many of the lilypad conversations, the Echidna two-page spread, Terezi: Remem8er. I tend to read Homestuck as a drama with comedy rather than a comedy with drama. Your reading may vary.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:See: Cascade, Game Over, many of the lilypad conversations, the Echidna two-page spread, Terezi: Remem8er. I tend to read Homestuck as a drama with comedy rather than a comedy with drama. Your reading may vary.
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Aug 21, 2015 17:15
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Flea Wars posted:A lot of people would use the word dramedy but I like to think of Homestuck more as a permanent irreversible coma. Oh, if only.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:See: Cascade, Game Over, many of the lilypad conversations, the Echidna two-page spread, Terezi: Remem8er. I tend to read Homestuck as a drama with comedy rather than a comedy with drama. Your reading may vary. Rather than reading it as one side of a binary or the other, I personally choose to enjoy homestuck at every point of the spectrum between comedy and drama. I guess you could say I'm into polydramedy
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Man, rereads can be painful. http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004672 quote:
e: I am reading what the thread had to say when Cascade came out. It is apparently the Word of Hussie that people who die on their God Tier beds don't resurrect, but instead a new God Tier being is created that has the memories of the dead person? Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Yeah, rereads get painful. Like Dave's whole "No I'm totally just too cool to cry over my Bro. It's nothing more than that." And now we know that...isn't entirely true.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Things can be written into a narrative that don't matter to the over all story and that's fine. It's just that so much of that happens in homestuck and so many things are dropped or at least postponed for so long that they kind of drag on and can be a big a bit of a slog to get through. Sure they happened, but they don't really matter and, your opinion on quality of the aside, feel like filler, which is impressive because it gets so much 'screentime'. That's Hussie's approach of throwing a lot of poo poo at the walls (especially the fourth) and seeing what sticks. The parts that end up falling do seem like pointless digression when you know they're just going to get dropped in the end; but they could have led somewhere Jia posted:I like this comic even when there aren't any jokes in it. The joke is the readers.
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Classtoise posted:Yeah, rereads get painful. Like Dave's whole "No I'm totally just too cool to cry over my Bro. It's nothing more than that." That was pretty obvious, even at the time it was being posted.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:That was pretty obvious, even at the time it was being posted. Eh. Dave did a good job, at least early on, of playing everything off as irony. As the story goes on we learn he's not as good as it as he thought when poo poo gets really crazy.
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Classtoise posted:Eh. Dave did a good job, at least early on, of playing everything off as irony. No. No he did not. Even from when he was fumbling around his house at the beginning you could tell he was bullshitting everyone. Dude was have freakouts about puppets and poo poo.
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That's one great thing Hussie did, that a lot of people wrote off as 'just a joke'. Bro was always hosed up and it was always hosed up that Dave grew up the way he did. Hussie just played his cards to his chest until he needed the full dysfunction junction flush. See that loving ball pit Paradox Space comic he wrote.
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By the way, for those who backed it and thus might be interested, Toby Radiation's Undertale has a release date of September 15th.
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I didn't back it but I am interested. Nice to know it's coming soon.
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That game fucks with you something fierce and I highly recommend the demo to anyone with even a passing curiosity of JRPGs.
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Bowman put out his new album, Radiation's got a release date for his new game, i think Clark Powell composed the music for a recent indie game the name of which escapes me this moment i wish success for all homestuck um.. team-members??? graduates???
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Nate RFB posted:By the way, for those who backed it and thus might be interested, Toby Radiation's Undertale has a release date of September 15th. Will it be on Steam?
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Plom Bar posted:...so? Did you click it? I was going to make it link to something funny but I couldn't think of anything. The ad goes to the aggrogator site.
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I've been trying to create my own ParadoxSpace comics, however I haven't yet thought up anything funny.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:I've been trying to create my own ParadoxSpace comics, however I haven't yet thought up anything funny. That's okay; neither did they.
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A Let's Play of the new King's Quest has been started in this forum, and the OP explicitly points out what the Odd Gentlemen have done, but not everyone is convinced by that post that was cancelled on Tumblr. If anyone (Possibly with a better understanding of the situation than me) wants to clarify the situation and/or enjoy the best parts of the game (its writing and atmosphere) without giving one cent to those guys here is a link: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3737601 paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Aug 23, 2015 |
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paradoxGentleman posted:A Let's Play of the new King's Quest has been started in this forum, and the OP explicitly points out what the Odd Gentlemen have done, but not everyone is convinced by that post that was cancelled on Tumblr. If anyone (Possibly with a better understanding of the situation than me) wants to clarify the situation and/or enjoy the best partes of the game (it's writing and atmosphere) without giving one cent to those guys here is a link: i'm not going to not play a really good game just because the developers are scumbags
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pandaK posted:i'm not going to not play a really good game just because the developers are scumbags That is your call to make. Do consider that in doing so you are implicitly rewarding them for their actions, but apart from that do what you feel is the best.
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pandaK posted:i'm not going to not play a really good game just because the developers are scumbags poo poo, Transformers Devastation will probably be the first Activision game I've played since Heavy Gear 2.
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