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Fantastic_Mr_Fox posted:well, considering how few black people came into the country through the established immigration system, and how many were granted citizenship via the 14th amendment, black people are basically the first anchor babies. not quite 
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Montasque posted:White supremacist wants to take over, rename town after Donald Trump Trump: Probably not a white supremacist, but the candidate of choice for white supremacists.
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echronorian posted:Oh I get it 100%, but Trump will use it to spin his web of anti Chinese rhetoric so thick it'll probably catch middle of the road, mostly liberal supporters. "This is why our leaders suck, look at these bad deals with China" and the Bill Maher crowd, the mad money democrats, will get snatched up. That's my theory at least. Not sure why you're grouping the "Bill Maher" and "mad money" crowd together. Most progressives (which include Bill Maher) feel the stock market is not really connected to reality and is mostly rich people gambling. If they're in the upper quintiles they probably have some mutual funds and/or some 401k investments, so if they care about the stock market all, it's because of that. And we're so used to fluctuations now, it'll take a pretty big and sustained dip to shake us.
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Aug 24, 2015 21:39
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Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4na13UwOoc
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Aug 24, 2015 21:41
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY DO THIS
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Aug 24, 2015 21:43
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. I love how he says that he has been "immersed in the immigrant experience". And then he bad mouths "Asians".
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Aug 24, 2015 21:44
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. "sorry i actually meant asian anchor babies" lol how is he so bad at this
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Aug 24, 2015 21:45
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Dahbadu posted:Not sure why you're grouping the "Bill Maher" and "mad money" crowd together. Because it's television for idiots who think they understand what's happening and are informed
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Tautologicus posted:Yes and no one ever paid at either of those rates in the way they do today. Income was taxed in brackets and there were a lot more deductions to take. Taxes were actually effectively lower overall during that time. I went down this same train of thought at one point Income is still taxed in brackets.
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Giggle Goose posted:I love how he says that he has been "immersed in the immigrant experience". And then he bad mouths "Asians". To be fair Chinese birth tourism is a real thing, but it's like a few thousand people a year.
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Bill Maher isn't progressive, seeing as he thinks things like that Muslims are inherently worse than all other religions.
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Shageletic posted:http://www.vox.com/2015/8/24/9200149/donald-trump-barbara-bush It's not really a low blow. If a candidate's mother stated they don't think their son should be President, that's fair game. I still don't understand how people watched W's presidency and want to vote for Jeb. Imagine if Trump campaigned as dirty as W did vs McCain. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Bill Maher isn't progressive, seeing as he thinks things like that Muslims are inherently worse than all other religions. Yeah I actively avoided saying progressive, though people who consider themselves progressive absolutely watch him.
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echronorian posted:Because it's television for idiots who think they understand what's happening and are informed Bill Maher is not mad money, and I don't think there's probably that much overlap in their audience either. I don't want to get into the weeds of defending Bill Maher, as he is not a paragon of anything, but at least he's brave with his opinions and rarely tows some milquetoast false equivalency line of thinking. As far as being a white ivy league baby boomer, he's about as good as you get. And yes, he's a progressive. I'd rather live in a world with Bill Maher than without.
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Montasque posted:With all the xenophobic and racist rhetoric being thrown around this was only a matter of time. Maybe because it was Boston, but people don't seem that phased by this. I guess it will only take a Trump inspired murder to really get people to pay attention to his 'passionate fans'. sorry to dredge up an old quote, but the fact that 'Trump inspired murder' is now a real phrase that could potentially happen is a sign of our wonderful Apocalypse
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I'd rather live in a world with Germ Theory denial than one without.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. lol this guy just does not want to be President, does he?
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MrBims posted:I'd rather live in a world with Germ Theory denial than one without. I'm ok with this as long as we require all the deniers to live in the same city/state/country.
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Thump! posted:lol this guy just does not want to be President, does he? didnt someone mention his wife didnt want him to run? neither did his mom apparently. i think Jeb is throwing the election so he can go back to retirement without being pestered by the gop establishment to run for president lol
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comes along bort posted:To be fair Chinese birth tourism is a real thing, but it's like a few thousand people a year. The PC rant thing is stunning. Jeb is so bad at this.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. They should be "Anchor old enough to buy beer children"
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MrBims posted:I'd rather live in a world with Germ Theory denial than one without. Not everyone shares the same opinions. Just because he has some stupid opinions on things doesn't mean that we shouldn't count his good opinions, some of which he has been very brave (compared to others in his position) about having.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. Jeb? leading the charge on Republicans alienating asian americans. Isn't that like the one group of immigrants they haven't completely hosed themselves with yet?
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The number of candidates running for president who don't want to be president severely outnumbers the number of candidates running for president that do want to be president
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HappyHippo posted:Isn't that like the one group of immigrants they haven't completely hosed themselves with yet? well, not anymore anyway
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Dahbadu posted:Not sure why you're grouping the "Bill Maher" and "mad money" crowd together. Most progressives (which include Bill Maher) feel the stock market is not really connected to reality and is mostly rich people gambling. If they're in the upper quintiles they probably have some mutual funds and/or some 401k investments, so if they care about the stock market all, it's because of that. And we're so used to fluctuations now, it'll take a pretty big and sustained dip to shake us. People who have their retirement savings in index funds are probably gonna have frowns for a little while from the ugly numbers but if they're not within 10 years of retirement they'll probably recover handsomely. Anyone within 10 years of retirement probably should be balanced more into more stable and safe stuff anyway but god only knows what kind of bullshit advice those people were getting between 2008 and now with regard to rebuilding their holdings after that crash. Someone who took a big haircut in 2008 at almost 20 years to retirement might have tried to gamble their money back given the time left and unless they were good about moving as much as they could reasonably spare into stable funds they're now looking at another haircut with 10 years to go. They won't be happy but demographically they aren't really lost votes. The problem with worrying about the electoral effects of the economic developments w.r.t. China is that the tail end of the boomers are in that soon-retiring, possibly-made-a-stupid-gamble demographic and on top of that you've got the shithead second-term reaganite rear end in a top hat kids of theirs who are hearing them piss and moan every day about it, and have one eye on the IRA ticker since they're in their mid 40s too, so even though the effects on the US will probably be rather limited in scope and length, it's hitting people who would have voted for Trump anyway. Mass layoffs aren't going to be a component of this event but grouchy old folks looking at very real effects on their retirement will, but they're already all wound up about anchor babies so it's probably a wash. If China fucks up and experiences runaway deflation for whatever reason (it's a credit bubble so that's what they will be trying to fight against but thankfully they print their own currency) then it's gonna be really bad for the US but they control their own money supply so they have the ability to wrangle it.
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HappyHippo posted:Jeb? leading the charge on Republicans alienating asian americans. Isn't that like the one group of immigrants they haven't completely hosed themselves with yet?
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. The only thing I can remotely think he can be referencing are "birth hotels", like you see in California, but he somehow, seemingly without effort, managed to alienate himself AGAIN.
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Alter Ego posted:The top income tax rate in 1952 was 91% and the average corporate tax rate was 52%, yet somehow the world didn't end. I would like you to explain why, please. ...You do realize that 1952 was before the AMT and it was totally possible and indeed common for the wealthy to use deductions to dodge literally all of their taxes, right?
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:No they lost those votes years ago. Asian Americans are disproportionately urbanized, coastal, and educated. 
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Jeb continues to fall down the stairs in slow motion, he's actively attacking Trump now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbSdfLD7gH8
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FAUXTON posted:Stock market stuff. Agreed. I just think "wolf!" has been cried a lot so people aren't as reactionary as they used to be. I could be wrong. I don't really follow the markets.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Jeb continues to fall down the stairs in slow motion, he's actively attacking Trump now First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they attack you. Then you win.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Jeb continues to fall down the stairs in slow motion, he's actively attacking Trump now I thought only a few days ago Jeb? was saying he wasn't going to be buying anti-trump attack ads? He can't even get this right. Now The Eye of Trump's gaze will be fixed in his direction. You don't want that. HappyHippo fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. The Establishment GOP's front runner folks...
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Pinterest Mom posted:Jeb! clarifies his anchor babies remark. He matches W's ability to say dumb stuff without the endearing things like people skills and the ability to tell fart jokes
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FAUXTON posted:If China fucks up and experiences runaway deflation for whatever reason (it's a credit bubble so that's what they will be trying to fight against but thankfully they print their own currency) then it's gonna be really bad for the US but they control their own money supply so they have the ability to wrangle it. How would runaway deflation happen in china? That would be an insane blessing for the government because they could just print more money to counteract it and poor it back into the economy? Doesn't china want major deflation so they could increase their currency?
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pathetic little tramp posted:Jeb continues to fall down the stairs in slow motion, he's actively attacking Trump now Does he seriously think he can win that exchange with what has been displayed so far?
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:No they lost those votes years ago. Asian Americans are disproportionately urbanized, coastal, and educated. Actually, it's a pretty recent phenomenon. Kerry only won asians 56-44, Obama won them 62-35 against McCain, and they're one of the only demographics that voted more democratic in 2012 (73-26) than in 2008. (One of four groups: Asians shifted 11% towards the Dems, hispanics 4%, gays 6%, and people making 30k-50k 2%, while the country as a whole was voting 3% more republican) Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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