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What is the general consensus on Jarred Hayne?
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:01 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 09:17 |
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MacheteZombie posted:What is the general consensus on Jarred Hayne? I imagine he's going to be practice squaded, but it's not like the 49ers have anyone else to keep on the active roster so who knows?
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:05 |
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Prophecy120 posted:Do you really think Murray, Mathews and Sproles will get touches every week? Seems like a stretch to me. Yes. Sproles is going to be split wide and is a "safety valve"/check down target. Not a safe bet or a RB3 going into the season, but I can see flexing both he and Ryan Mathews on any given week or as a bye week play. e: Not that it matters, but I'm in Philly and pay attention to beat reports and the like. Sproles' usage in preseason thus far makes me see an increased role for him, as well as Chip's comments and stuff like this. My takeaway is that I think Murray is being taken far too high and I can see a scenario where all three of those backs (maybe 4 with Kenjon Barner) could be viable this season. The only two offensive players from Philly I want to bank on are JMatt and Bradford, and even the latter until his knees explode. Gyshall fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Sep 3, 2015 |
# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:05 |
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Azhais posted:I imagine he's going to be practice squaded, but it's not like the 49ers have anyone else to keep on the active roster so who knows? I was just reading on Rotoworld that he played as the No. 2 back on Saturday, so I'm guessing he'll at least make the team?
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:07 |
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MacheteZombie posted:What is the general consensus on Jarred Hayne? He's never played football before. Likely special teams contributor. E: they don't pass block or catch forward passes in rugby.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:08 |
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Zombie Tsunami posted:Yeah dude. This could theoretically go all the way to the Supreme Court. I am excited for the future academy award winning film starring leonardo dicaprio as tom brady and jonah hill as the ballboy in charge of deflating
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:14 |
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MacheteZombie posted:What is the general consensus on Jarred Hayne? He's going to make the team as a returner. He's probably going to beat Kendall Hunter out for a roster spot but if he gets more than like 20 carries this season something has gone horribly wrong.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:21 |
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Spoeank posted:He's going to make the team as a returner. He's probably going to beat Kendall Hunter out for a roster spot but if he gets more than like 20 carries this season something has gone horribly wrong. On the other hand if Hyde gets hurt, Hayne might be the best pure runner left on the team, and in that circumstance I could easily see the 49ers running him on early downs, Bryce Brown-in-2012 style.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:24 |
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Franks Happy Place posted:On the other hand if Hyde gets hurt, Hayne might be the best pure runner left on the team, and in that circumstance I could easily see the 49ers running him on early downs, Bryce Brown-in-2012 style. Putting Hayne in that position is sub-optimal, since he can't do a lot of the finer things for the position (as others have alluded to) and his running style is conducive to getting blown up by a linebacker because he can't lower his pad level to save his life. Mike Davis would be the backup since he seems to be Not Fat Mike Davis now. Davis was disastrous in the first preseason game but has looked a lot better since then, which is why I think they cut bait on Hunter.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:26 |
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In a QB/2RB/2WR/Flex/TE format where all TD's are worth 6 and it's PPR, QB's draft priority shouldn't be that inflated right? I.E. I should still be looking to pick from the top 2 WR/RB tiers before I consider a QB if available, instead of reaching for one in the 1st.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:29 |
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Spoeank posted:Putting Hayne in that position is sub-optimal, since he can't do a lot of the finer things for the position (as others have alluded to) and his running style is conducive to getting blown up by a linebacker because he can't lower his pad level to save his life. Honestly I think he's learning the position really fast. Being a peak physical athlete with a professional work ethic is a lot different than being a raw rookie from some D3 school, or a lineman switching from defense to offense or whatever. The pad level thing is a concern, but DeMarco Murray and Chris Ivory do that all of the time. I really do think that if Hyde goes down past the halfway mark (when Hayne will likely have more of this stuff sorted out), they could trot out their Australian celebrity just to save some face. That team is hot garbage, and with a few more injuries they would be desperate for better narratives. Edit: Bryce Brown in 2012 or Jerick McKinnin last year are similar scenarios. Neither team really trusted those RBs, but they were forced to run them out of a combination of overall depth chart talent deficit, as well as a "gently caress it, ship's going down anyway" fanservice.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:30 |
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Cart Mountain posted:In a QB/2RB/2WR/Flex/TE format where all TD's are worth 6 and it's PPR, QB's draft priority shouldn't be that inflated right? I.E. I should still be looking to pick from the top 2 WR/RB tiers before I consider a QB if available, instead of reaching for one in the 1st. Having 6PT Passing TD's just makes the elite quarterbacks MUCH more valuable because they tend to throw a lot more TD's. So you really want to get a top tier QB at the right time. In a standard league, you could easily wait until the 7th-8th for a Tannehill, who wouldn't put up much worse numbers than a Manning. In 6PT TD leagues, you are sacrificing a lot of points waiting on a QB. I would say you should look at drafting a QB by the 4th, maybe the 5th.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:48 |
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Does this suspension stuff inflate or deflate Gronk's value?
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:05 |
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Does this suspension stuff inflate or deflate Gronk's value? Tom Brady is throwing to him for 4 more games, so I'm going to go with "inflate"
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:06 |
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:I am excited for the future academy award winning film starring leonardo dicaprio as tom brady and jonah hill as the ballboy in charge of deflating
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:07 |
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LGD posted:Tom Brady is throwing to him for 4 more games, so I'm going to go with "inflate" On the other hand, rookie QBs love to throw to the TE
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:09 |
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:On the other hand, rookie QBs love to throw to the TE Brady loves gronk more than rookie tes love safety
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:14 |
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Cart Mountain posted:In a QB/2RB/2WR/Flex/TE format where all TD's are worth 6 and it's PPR, QB's draft priority shouldn't be that inflated right? I.E. I should still be looking to pick from the top 2 WR/RB tiers before I consider a QB if available, instead of reaching for one in the 1st.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:16 |
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I got Brady in the 6th round, kinda early. But I'll take it!
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:21 |
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Got him in the 11th in my draft last weekend.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:28 |
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Cart Mountain posted:In a QB/2RB/2WR/Flex/TE format where all TD's are worth 6 and it's PPR, QB's draft priority shouldn't be that inflated right? I.E. I should still be looking to pick from the top 2 WR/RB tiers before I consider a QB if available, instead of reaching for one in the 1st. Rodgers or Luck are definitely worth a late 1st at least, given the positional advantage they give you, but you might be able to get them in the 2nd. GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:On the other hand, rookie QBs love to throw to the TE Nope http://www.4for4.com/fantasy-football/2015/preseason/do-rookie-quarterbacks-really-favor-tight-ends quote:The Bottom Line
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:31 |
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I'm going to the Pats last preseason game tonight (Bills fan here). Definitely picked the worst possible night to go. I'll let everyone know how much is present at Gillette tonight Also, how Travaris Cadet does running the ball #waiverwire
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:34 |
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Man, I feel so bad for Beer right now. He must be getting swamped with PMs asking for another update to the sheets he released yesterday but with the Tom Brady suspension accounted for.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:46 |
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I miss the good ole days when people used their own judgement to make decisions for themselves.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:47 |
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RCarr posted:I miss the good ole days when people used their own judgement to make decisions for themselves. I sure don't, as I'd be screwed
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:48 |
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Reik posted:Man, I feel so bad for Beer right now. He must be getting swamped with PMs asking for another update to the sheets he released yesterday but with the Tom Brady suspension accounted for. The OP is still pointing to sheets from over a week ago. Got a link to beersheets from yesterday? Also re: Jarryd Hayne - he'll either make the team, or get sniped by another team. No way is he going to get practice squadded. Purely based on his special teams performance, there has to be a team in the league that will want him. I think he's likely to make the fifth spot on the niners roster, though. Purely based on his punt returns he's good enough - averaging 20 yards per return on six returns, and granted it's preaseason, but that's still fantastic. He's also shown the ability to make key tackles on kickoffs/punts. Being able to fill in on the occasional rushing play fills in the value. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2553967-san-francisco-49ers-who-jarryd-hayne-would-have-to-beat-out-to-make-the-roster In terms of fantasy value, you'd only take him as a longshot on a keeper team, ideally in a league that gives points for return yardage, and even then, you're probably just hoping for a 2016 backup RB spot behind someone injury prone. e. In my dream scenario, the niners trade Kendall Hunter for some help on the OL, and roster Hyde, Bush, Davis, Miller, and Hayne. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 3, 2015 |
# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:09 |
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The season needs to get here. im seriously contemplating swapping Mike Evans for ARob/Stevie
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:10 |
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Leperflesh posted:The OP is still pointing to sheets from over a week ago. Got a link to beersheets from yesterday? https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/3jclcq/beersheets_20150902/
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:13 |
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the_american_dream posted:The season needs to get here. im seriously contemplating swapping Mike Evans for ARob/Stevie Do not do this. Stay strong!
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:13 |
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Cmon guys, you IDP people need to join THE FRENZY http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3735414 Also, if you've never done IDP before, it's a great way to learn. Trial by fire
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:25 |
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Suave Fedora posted:Which Floyd? Michael
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:33 |
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Sorry, math is hard for me but in a .5ppr league, we added a flex spot to the standard 3WR 2RB set up. That would mean that RBs lose a little value correct?
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:52 |
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Boosh! posted:Sorry, math is hard for me but in a .5ppr league, we added a flex spot to the standard 3WR 2RB set up. That would mean that RBs lose a little value correct? Depends, you have to start 3 WR, you COULD start 3 RB, but you just have to look at value, and ya, it would bump up WR value a little just because you have to start 3. The PPR just makes them more of an option in flex, in no PPR I always flex RB's if I have them, or not in bye week hell.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:55 |
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I didn't really want anything to do with Peyton this year, but he fell all the way to the 77th pick in my 14 team work league, so I grabbed him. I'm starting to question myself, but that's great value, right? Standard QB scoring.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:59 |
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Doing some rearranging on my bench, and I've been going back and forth with counter offers for Stevie Johnson for a while. I think this last offer will lock it up, but I just wanted to check if you all thought I was crazy before I sent it: I give: Jonathan Stewart, Pierre Garcon I get: Doug Martin, Stevie Johnson My RBs: Miller, Forte, Stewart, Ivory, David Cobb My WRs: Bryant, Cooks, Steve Smith Sr, Pierre Garcon, Kendall Wright, Ty Montgomery edit: Standard scoring
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 20:00 |
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wattershed posted:Keeper league, inaugural season. WRs are Keenan Allen/Landry/AJ80/Michael Floyd/Perriman (I know...at least I'm stacked at RB) As long as you have the bench space or an IR slot, I would drop either one of Floyd of Perriman, depending on how much risk you are comfortable with. While both have not-insignificant injuries, both are expected to play this season. I don't anticipate that Floyd's production will deviate much from what we've already seen and he shouldn't be more than a flex or bye option, whereas Perriman has a better shot of emerging as a top target for Flacco and is in a better position to provide a better return over the season. I would lean on dropping Floyd since you have 3 decent starting options anyway with your first three wideouts.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 20:04 |
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Axl Rose posted:Doing some rearranging on my bench, and I've been going back and forth with counter offers for Stevie Johnson for a while. I think this last offer will lock it up, but I just wanted to check if you all thought I was crazy before I sent it: definitely a fair trade. If all the Doug Martin hype is true, it could be a coup trade.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 20:09 |
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Gobias Ind. posted:I didn't really want anything to do with Peyton this year, but he fell all the way to the 77th pick in my 14 team work league, so I grabbed him. I'm starting to question myself, but that's great value, right? Standard QB scoring. Yeah, of course. He's a great bet to finish in the top 5, if not the top 3. His dip in production last year seems fair to attribute to his injury, not old age.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 20:09 |
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Gobias Ind. posted:I didn't really want anything to do with Peyton this year, but he fell all the way to the 77th pick in my 14 team work league, so I grabbed him. I'm starting to question myself, but that's great value, right? Standard QB scoring. In a 14 team league, hell yeah that's a good value. It's weird how different leagues get a different scramble of biases. I guess most everyone else in your work league had the same attitude towards Peyton. For reference, in my family money 12 team league, Peyton went with the 18th pick.
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 20:10 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 09:17 |
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I'm in Philly and just had an auction draft last night with friends. I spent my draft nominating all the Eagles players. Zach Ertz went for $18/$250
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# ? Sep 3, 2015 20:14 |