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Anubis posted:Thanks for telling me about my own family and friend dynamics and how I should communicate with them! Also, quit trying to troll/derail please.  My sister shared this and that "In case you thought it was just a three day weekend" thing. Her response to "it was more about the breaking and entering stuff" was "Yeah but what if those emails had information about Benghazi in them???"  Rod Serling was a god damned American hero that would have snapped the loving neck of the person who used him in this trash
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I got that "in case you thought it was about a three day weekend" thing as well, I commented saying it was about Memorial Day and got the response "Yea I know, just felt like reposting it" to which I'm just like 
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Duke Igthorn posted:
Ask them why they haven't quit their job and renounced their citizenship yet.
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Sep 7, 2015 16:51
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Julio Cruz posted:Ask them why they haven't quit their job and renounced their citizenship yet. They're too proud. They have ethics and standards, not like those lazy Mexicans.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:03
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Jurgan posted:They're too proud. They have ethics and standards, not like those lazy Mexicans.
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Guavanaut posted:That, and the secret benefits aren't available for whites. But you can just claim to be native american like Elizabeth Warren and get all the benefits that way right? It's almost too easy.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:10
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Culling poo poo from the "Idiots on social media" thread in PYF is still acceptable right? All hail our wise and benevolent god-job-creators. 
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Sep 7, 2015 18:04
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Henry Ford also admired National Socialism?
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On Labor Day we honor the struggles and victories of the working class. Haha sike it's another opportunity to circle jerk about who loves Are Troops more!   Because all restaurants and stores are closed on Labor Day, right? Or are their employees not worthy of your respect for some reason? Anyway if you want more self fellation about military worship @FanSince09 is retweeting a lot of similar posts, it's a goldmine.
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Yeah, all those strikers and union members got beaten, blacklisted, and straight up murdered for shits and giggles. EDIT: God, this is the most infuriating day of the year. It's not enough that the US whitewashes the history of labor and business or that people cheer the destruction of unions and happily eat more and more poo poo from ~*job creators*~. Now we have to suffer the one goddamn holiday for workers being co-opted for ARE TROOPS and sucking Business' dick. 1stGear fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Henry Ford did pay his workers pretty well, but the main reason he did so is he wanted his workers to be able to afford a car so they would buy one and basically be free marketing. It wasn't because he wanted the best talent.
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I can't wait for literally every holiday to become about are troops. Remember this Martin Luther King Day the sacrifices our soldiers made in passing the Civil Rights Act. While you're trick or treating, remember to thank our soldiers who died putting down the skeleton rebellions. On this day 2000 years ago, Are Troops were crucified under Pontius "Hussein" Pilate and they suffered and died for Are Freedoms. 
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Klaus88 posted:All hail our wise and benevolent god-job-creators. Ford didn't think that.* *It's a "You didn't build that" reference.
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seiferguy posted:Henry Ford did pay his workers pretty well, but the main reason he did so is he wanted his workers to be able to afford a car so they would buy one and basically be free marketing. It wasn't because he wanted the best talent. Henry Ford believed in what he called "benevolent capitalism" where you paid the crap out of your workers. It was also his belief that a worker should never be forced to produce something that he himself could not afford. He was still a poo poo bag in a lot of other ways but he wasn't nearly as awful as the other tycoons of the era either. He even said "there is one rule for the industrialist: produce the best goods possible, for the lowest price possible, paying the highest wages possible." Granted he also hired people to make sure his workers weren't getting drunk, ever, and was in fact anti-union but he wasn't ALL bad.
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Someone mentioned Australia, articles on migrants and crazy comments so I went digging. http://www.smh.com.au/national/racism-on-the-rise-in-australia-migrants-report-cultural-shift-20140405-365a5.html quote:Yes, it is a natural human reaction to object to having your territory encroached by another group. quote:Funny, I have lived elsewhere in Australia and have only seen active racism in Melbourne towards Asians by working class locals in the early days of university here, and in the recent decade from members of one post-war immigrant group to another. quote:All Australians labeled as racist quote:I guess when it comes down to it we all have our personal thoughts/beliefs/preferences and so essentially we're all racist, however I believe true racism is something else entirely. True racism in my 67 year experience is the out and out hatred of someone because of the colour of their skin or ethnic origin. Personally i don't see a lot of that in OZ though I 'm sure you could find it if you looked hard enough. For those who believe racism is an integral part of OZ society I suggest living in a Boer community or some such for a couple of years and get a feel for what racism truly entails..........what we have in OZ may well be intolerance but it sure as hell ain't racism. quote:And what country is Australia more racist than? the hutus and the tutsi..the Japanese and the Chinese.. the Chinese and the Koreans..the Arabs and the Jews..the Indians the the Pakistani.. blacks against other blacks in Africa..give me a break this article is such nonsense.. how about doing an article within those places..then you will see racism against their own race..Try and become Japanese.. yea right..go and put all the arabs together and see how well they get on.. What country doesn't have racism.. but to suggest that it is only white people that are racist is just plain ignorance to the extreme.. 
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Klaus88 posted:Culling poo poo from the "Idiots on social media" thread in PYF is still acceptable right? henry ford also sent dudes from the 'sociological' department of the ford motor co. to spy on his employees, enter their homes, write them nastygrams if they lived in squalor and confiscate/destroy any illegal drugs they had i'm sure the libertarians would love that
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Well, they chose to live in the company towns. 
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Popular Thug Drink posted:henry ford also sent dudes from the 'sociological' department of the ford motor co. to spy on his employees, enter their homes, write them nastygrams if they lived in squalor and confiscate/destroy any illegal drugs they had He also would say what the workers could and could not do in their down time. Want to go to a bar after work? You're fired.
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"And THAT'S why wages need to stay at 1926 levels."
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Guavanaut posted:Well, they chose to live in the company towns. henry ford pointedly didn't do company towns. and he'd send his thugs around to private residences, didn't give a poo poo
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Popular Thug Drink posted:henry ford pointedly didn't do company towns. and he'd send his thugs around to private residences, didn't give a poo poo Company towns, Pinkertons, and company scrip are probably the best arguments against deregulation that exist. Yes, Ancaps, I'm so sure that making those things legal again will usher in an era of unequaled prosperity for everybody. Life sure was grand for working folk who weren't even paid actual money.
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Klaus88 posted:All Australians labeled as racist I'd been wondering how long it'd take for someone to try the "well you're racist against racists" angle. 
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Soonmot posted:So this just popped up on my feed. Wouldn't that just be a handicapped space? Handicapped spaces let people who were injured at work, people who are disabled from birth, and other undeserving non-troops park there.
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Soonmot posted:So this just popped up on my feed. Wouldn't that just be a handicapped space? Maybe instead of making super special spots that are already covered by handicap parking we should focus on creating fewer wounded warriors in unnecessary wars? Just an idea. 
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Mo_Steel posted:Maybe instead of making super special spots that are already covered by handicap parking we should focus on creating fewer wounded warriors in unnecessary wars? Just an idea. But then how will we compensate for the size of our penis? 
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Soonmot posted:So this just popped up on my feed. Wouldn't that just be a handicapped space? Every day I'm more convinced that soldier worship is literal. Soldiers are some sort of demi-gods gracing us with their divine presence. Every night I pray to Soldiers and ask them for more dead foreigners. America is a Christian Soldier country. Then I see the response to a veteran asking people to maybe not detonate fireworks in residential areas, or maybe don't send US soldiers into every war forever and I remember the soldier worship ends as soon as it doesn't suit far-right political views.
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DrProsek posted:Every day I'm more convinced that soldier worship is literal. Soldiers are some sort of demi-gods gracing us with their divine presence. Every night I pray to Soldiers and ask them for more dead foreigners. America is a Christian Soldier country. I corrected my uncle when he posted the "In case you thought it was about a three-day weekend" meme and he told that he loves showing support for the troops and he totally knows all about Labor Day. I told him as a service member I think it's pretty screwy to co-opt more holidays for us. Everyone in my families brain broke when they found out how far to the left I am, since you know, being in the military should automatically make you a Christian, Right-Wing loving good ole boy.
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Soonmot posted:So this just popped up on my feed. Wouldn't that just be a handicapped space? Not usable by John Kerry.
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seiferguy posted:Henry Ford did pay his workers pretty well, but the main reason he did so is he wanted his workers to be able to afford a car so they would buy one and basically be free marketing. It wasn't because he wanted the best talent. That doesn't really bother me, because it proves that paying good wages doesn't have to be about charity; it can be about self-interest as well. It's easier to argue "you capitalists should be on our side since this will help us all" than to argue "you capitalists are the enemy and we will destroy you!" Ford's actions, regardless of their motivation, put the lie to the idea that raising wages will automatically hurt profits.
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Jurgan posted:Ford's actions, regardless of their motivation, put the lie to the idea that raising wages will automatically hurt profits. I mean, does it? People (generally) aren't paying workers like poo poo out of cruelty, they're doing it because decades of research suggests that raising wages does hurt profits when you can simply, well, not raise wages. You can absolutely run a stable, successful business and pay your employees like human beings, but capitalism very much wants you to maximize profits, not just stabilize. It doesn't matter if your business can do "well enough" while offering fair compensation, because people at the top aren't trying to keep their businesses afloat and have a comfortable life, they're trying to get the high score and win at the money-having game.
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Jurgan posted:That doesn't really bother me, because it proves that paying good wages doesn't have to be about charity; it can be about self-interest as well. It's easier to argue "you capitalists should be on our side since this will help us all" than to argue "you capitalists are the enemy and we will destroy you!" Ford's actions, regardless of their motivation, put the lie to the idea that raising wages will automatically hurt profits. Part of his motivation was that employee turnover was very high and it turned out to cost less to pay his employees more. Self-interest was certainly a part of it. Everybody else thought he was insane but he went "nah, watch this."
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PneumonicBook posted:I corrected my uncle when he posted the "In case you thought it was about a three-day weekend" meme and he told that he loves showing support for the troops and he totally knows all about Labor Day. I told him as a service member I think it's pretty screwy to co-opt more holidays for us. Mind to elaborate why you lean left? Or is it just that democrats have a better record when it comes to foreign policy and pointless warmongering then Republicans?  Seriously, I think not getting shot at is a valid reason for a veteran to lend one party a vote over another.
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My apologies everyone, I was so busy this weekend that I neglected my duties. So stand by for the full weeks helldump uncut.
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There's a nice double whammy for you when you realize that not only is Labor Day not about troop worship, it's not even about Labor at all. You gotta follow through, folks.
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seiferguy posted:Bootstraps Euro edition: Yeah, they should totally stop in the European countries that the benefits countries have been sucking dry since the Euro was introduced.
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seiferguy posted:Bootstraps Euro edition: Because they weren't trying really hard just to get to Turkey and being turned around...
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seiferguy posted:Bootstraps Euro edition: Yeah why don't these refugees want to settle in scenic, serene Caucases and Chechnya? And I hear Greece is pretty great too. Some refugees say it's like waking up to a Golden Dawn 
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