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The Deleter
May 22, 2010
Heads up for any Mantic folks - your Forces of Nature section on the official forums appears to have exploded, which is a shame as I was tempted by them (oh god too many armies) and wanted to see what people were using for models.

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Daedleh
Aug 25, 2008

What shall we do with a catnipped kitty?
Still showing for me?

https://manticforum.com/forum/kings-of-war/forces-of-nature

muskets
Nov 23, 2013

ルンピカビーム!

I'm getting the content but no stylesheet so it's not actually usable.

The Deleter
May 22, 2010

muskets posted:

I'm getting the content but no stylesheet so it's not actually usable.

This. I'm using Firefox version 31.1.1 at work which is pretty ancient - maybe that's the cause?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

muskets posted:

I'm getting the content but no stylesheet so it's not actually usable.

Working fine for me, seems to be a problem on your side.

muskets
Nov 23, 2013

ルンピカビーム!

The Deleter posted:

This. I'm using Firefox version 31.1.1 at work which is pretty ancient - maybe that's the cause?

Latest Chrome here - I'm guessing it's an ISP issue.

The Dark Project
Jun 25, 2007

Give it to me straight...

LumberingTroll posted:

Ive been working on my KoM army, its quick and dirty but it works.








loving sweet work mate! I am guessing these are plastic Confrontation Griffon Miniatures? I've never seen many of them close up, so it's hard to tell clearly which are which. Good score on getting these before the last stocks were gone :)

LumberingTroll
Sep 9, 2007

Really it's not because
I don't like you...

The Dark Project posted:

loving sweet work mate! I am guessing these are plastic Confrontation Griffon Miniatures? I've never seen many of them close up, so it's hard to tell clearly which are which. Good score on getting these before the last stocks were gone :)

Thanks, they are indeed, I went over them with some touch up paint and washes though, the straight pre-paitned ones are rather bland.


Kings of War basing question, do I have to mount hero figures on 20mmx20mm bases? they are so tiny and will result in a lot of base overhang on most figures.

LumberingTroll fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Sep 2, 2015

muskets
Nov 23, 2013

ルンピカビーム!

LumberingTroll posted:

Kings of War basing question, do I have to mount hero figures on 20mmx20mm bases? they are so tiny and will result in a lot of base overhang on most figures.

Smallest base the fig will fit properly on is the general rule. Bigger is a disadvantage unless you're doing some stupidly long/wide modelling-for-advantage trick, anyway, as it makes it easier to get things in contact with you, so nobody will mind.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




LumberingTroll posted:

Kings of War basing question, do I have to mount hero figures on 20mmx20mm bases? they are so tiny and will result in a lot of base overhang on most figures.

Singular version of the normal basing scheme, so 20x20 for infantry heroes, 40x40 large infantry, 25x50 cav, etc

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

moths posted:

Thanks, and I do! I've actually been photographing my undead as I go since it all ends up in the oath thread and/or my blog. Here's (almost) everything I've gotten done so far:





This dude is badass.

Daedleh
Aug 25, 2008

What shall we do with a catnipped kitty?

muskets posted:

Smallest base the fig will fit properly on is the general rule. Bigger is a disadvantage unless you're doing some stupidly long/wide modelling-for-advantage trick, anyway, as it makes it easier to get things in contact with you, so nobody will mind.

Yep any reasonable size is good. Bigger is nearly always a disadvantage so yeah you don't want to go ridiculous.

thegodofchuck
May 13, 2006

You'll be godlike
I'm sorting through my Wave 1 KoW stuff and I'm trying to figure out what the Handler is made out of for the Slave Orcs in the Abyssal Dwarves. There's a metal head and arm, but no body. Are you supposed to use an Orc body? It doesn't match the one on the website.

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

thegodofchuck posted:

I'm sorting through my Wave 1 KoW stuff and I'm trying to figure out what the Handler is made out of for the Slave Orcs in the Abyssal Dwarves. There's a metal head and arm, but no body. Are you supposed to use an Orc body? It doesn't match the one on the website.

At least for me the box came with a dwarf command sprue with a torso on which you can attach the head and arm. Maybe that's what you're missing?

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
I've been looking at this Kings of War thing and it looks pretty nifty. Did any of the model ranges get redone for the new edition?

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Everyone got one-two new units/models and there are two new armies coming abyssals and forces of nature but theyre next year.

thegodofchuck
May 13, 2006

You'll be godlike

Ratpick posted:

At least for me the box came with a dwarf command sprue with a torso on which you can attach the head and arm. Maybe that's what you're missing?

You mean the retail box? The Mega Starter Army definitely did not, in either of the two received. And I'm trying to figure out how 13 sprues of 3 Zombies = 40 Zombies.

enrious
Jan 22, 2015

thegodofchuck posted:

You mean the retail box? The Mega Starter Army definitely did not, in either of the two received. And I'm trying to figure out how 13 sprues of 3 Zombies = 40 Zombies.

Some of them can literally be legs and a spinal column, or a torso coming out of the ground, I'd guess.

Pash
Sep 10, 2009

The First of the Adorable Dead

thegodofchuck posted:

You mean the retail box? The Mega Starter Army definitely did not, in either of the two received. And I'm trying to figure out how 13 sprues of 3 Zombies = 40 Zombies.

Pretty sure if you get some extra bases you can make a lot more than 40 out of that using the spinal column bit.

thegodofchuck
May 13, 2006

You'll be godlike

Pash posted:

Pretty sure if you get some extra bases you can make a lot more than 40 out of that using the spinal column bit.

Ah, I see the spinal column and legs combo now. Feels really lame. Good for a bonus, bad for an included figure.

Still seems like we were shorted a dwarf sprue for the slave herder guy though.

Daedleh
Aug 25, 2008

What shall we do with a catnipped kitty?
There should be an additional 2 dwarf sprue for the Handler, though Mantic seem to be pretty lovely at that detail (wasn't in my Abyssal Dwarf box and I've seen plenty of people reporting the same). Bung it through on a missing items form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1l4oVhkzkrVzS1kYEs567bN_-_Iv6m9JrBXQTNEDEHH8/viewform

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
How do you guys normally set up terrain for KoW?

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
Daedleh/whoever, can you speak at me about composition for ratkin in KoW? I like the clan pestilence stuff but I also own the island of blood starter box skaven. What should I know about those units? I am familiar with the starter rules.

thegodofchuck
May 13, 2006

You'll be godlike

Daedleh posted:

There should be an additional 2 dwarf sprue for the Handler, though Mantic seem to be pretty lovely at that detail (wasn't in my Abyssal Dwarf box and I've seen plenty of people reporting the same). Bung it through on a missing items form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1l4oVhkzkrVzS1kYEs567bN_-_Iv6m9JrBXQTNEDEHH8/viewform

Thanks for the link, let's see if it gets taken care of.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Big Willy Style posted:

Daedleh/whoever, can you speak at me about composition for ratkin in KoW? I like the clan pestilence stuff but I also own the island of blood starter box skaven. What should I know about those units? I am familiar with the starter rules.

Someone on the Mantic forum made this handy chart for converting GW skavens to a Kings of War equivalent

quote:

Tunnel Slaves = GW Skavenslaves
Warriors = GW Clanrats (with or without spears)
Shock Troops = GW Stormvermin
The Blight = GW Plague Monks
Clawshots = GW Warplock Jezzail Teams, GW Ratling Gun
Scurriers = GW Night Runners

Giant Rat Pack =

Brutes = GW Rat Ogres
Brute Boomers = GW Rat Ogres with gun-arms, GW Stormfiends
Rat Pack = GW Giant Rats, Reaper Miniatures: Rats/Barrow Rats/Dire Rats/Giant Rats "Swarm".

Weapon team = GW Warpfire Thrower Team, GW Ratling Gun, RPE Ratman Bazooka Team,
Abyssal Cannon = GW Warp Lighting Cannon
Artillery = GW Plagueclaw Catapult, RPE Ratman Kamikaze Rocket Team, RPE Ratman Mortar (a bit weaksauce, but still)

Mutant = GW Hell Pit Abomination, Mierce Flint-Fang,
Arcane Death Engine = GW Doomwheel, Screaming Bell, Plague Furnace

Not going to bother listing anything for the various character types. That's pretty obvious/easy. Use whatever cool ratmen models you like from GW or elsewhere.

Demonspawn = GW Vermin Lord, Forge World Vermin Lord, Mierce Scar-Scath

Someone else, same thread

quote:

Tunnell Slaves - GW Slaves
Warriors - GW Clanrats
Spear Warriors - GW Clanrats with Spears
Shock Troops - GW Stormvermin
The Blight - GW Plague Censer Bearers
Blight Impalers - GW Plague Monks
Clawshots - GW Jezzails
Scurriers - GW Gutter Runners or Night Runners
Giant Rats with Handlers - GW Giant Rats with Packmasters
Brutes - GW Rat Ogres
Brute Boomers - GW Stormfiends
Vermintide - GW Rat Swarms
Mounted Warriors - No GW Equivelant (Forgeworld made Wolf Rats at one point, could convert)
Weapon Team - GW Warpfire Thrower, Ratling Gun or Plaguewind Mortar
Shredder - GW Warp Lightning Cannon
Artillery - GW Plague Claw Catapult
Mutated Rat-Fiend - GWAbomination
Rattlewagon - GW Doomwheel
Blight Lord - GW Plague Priest
Warchief - GW Warlord
Warlock - GW Greyseer
Warlock with Death Engine - GW Greyseer on Screaming Bell or Plague Priest on Plague Censer
Assassin - GW Assassin
Army Standard Bearer - GW Chieftan with Battle Standard
Demonspawn - GW Verminlord

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Sep 6, 2015

Esser-Z
Jun 3, 2012

Woo, finally found the missing Enforcer from when my cat knocked them all off the shelf. Was annoying, because she was one of my heavy weapon ones. Gotta glue her gun/right arm back on, but that'll be easy!

Last casuality of Hurricane Yorrick was one of my three medics. Missing head and right arm. One of the other two medics is fully normal, but the other also lost his left arm to the cattack. I put a spare defender shield on that one, to make a mini I could use as either. This last one, I'm debating what kind of arm to put on. Dry fitting indicated a pulse laser would look good in an at ease pose. With a replacement head that could be a 'character*' heavy weapons enforcer. Alternatively, I could use a spare pistol arm or sword arm and just have it be a medic. Thoughts?

*No rules difference, of course, except maybe giving her an item.


EDIT: I forgot there was a hand sculpted onto the heavy weapon for the left arm to connect to. I'd have to remove that if I did the pulse laser version. Hm.'

EDIT2 also argh I missed the deadline (by a lot) to submit to the story compendium. Oh well. Should've paid attention to the updates! Speaking of, drat Kalyshi are buff. Loving that.

Also Hrund looks great. Glad I grabbed a second of the single figures booster!


And reading back in the thread:

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

To add to what was already said, the kickstarter exclusive model for the latest campaign was a not-samus aran.
Serial number N7-117-- after Commander Shepard (or Systems Alliance spec ops commandos in general, but probably Shep) and the Master Chief. I have three or four, I forget, coming in my pledge. One'll be standard Enforce colors (I'm doing the studio scheme, though possibly with purple replacing yellow for the small details. Haven't started painting them yet because I need to get a proper cool white still), one'll be N7 colors (Black with a red-white-red stripe down one arm), not sure about the third (or possible fourth).

Other non-standard paint schemes I'm doing on specific enforcers include Sgt. Howlett in silver/red as Miki Talora, my human vanguard from ME3MP; the two-sword one I built in black/purple as Tina Avanar, my N7 Shadow from ME3MP, possibly taking a stealth cloak on her in gameplay (if that's at all worthwhile); and SOMETHING but I'm not sure what on the two-pistol assault enforcer I made. Calling him Firebrand as of right now.

Esser-Z fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Sep 7, 2015

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Bloodmire Legion seems to be back in stock, which is probably a good way to use your labo(u)r day 15% code.

E: the code is LABOR15

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd
So I went out and bought some heroes to tide me over until the kickstarter arrives and I couldnt find the dude I got in the pdf ruled book.

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/abyssal-dwarfs/product/ghenna-keeper-of-the-black-flame.html

Whats up with that?

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



IIRC he was a special guy in first edition, today he's just another Ironcaster.

Daedleh
Aug 25, 2008

What shall we do with a catnipped kitty?
Yep he's just a regular Ironcaster now. Sadly we weren't allowed to keep all the living legends from 1st edition.

drgnvale
Apr 30, 2004

A sword is not cutlery!
Isn't there a two player box set coming out soon? I don't need yet another army for a game I haven't played, but aside from the neatly trimmed beards I like the way the mantic dwarves look and wouldn't mind having a third, small army that I could use for quick games to get other people I hang out with interested. I also understand there's a way to get a neat little metal necromancer with it, but I couldn't find it on the mantic website. Is this retail only, and if so, are there any online retailers who carry it in the US (or cheap shipping from overseas)?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




It's Dwarves vs Undead, called Fall of Ironhold, and I'm assuming they'll stick it into the hands of as many retailers as possible. The necromancer is a retail only exclusive, comes in the box by default I believe, no matter where you buy it from. It's to distinguish it from kickstarter exclusives, and make retailers feel more loved.

drgnvale
Apr 30, 2004

A sword is not cutlery!

NTRabbit posted:

It's Dwarves vs Undead, called Fall of Ironhold, and I'm assuming they'll stick it into the hands of as many retailers as possible. The necromancer is a retail only exclusive, comes in the box by default I believe, no matter where you buy it from. It's to distinguish it from kickstarter exclusives, and make retailers feel more loved.

Thanks! Do you know when it should be available? I'll happily buy it from a retailer if I can find one locally or online.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Do the orc boar rider models have the heads separate from the body? I want to use some other heads if its not to much hassle.

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Yes

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Which unit(s) in the Elf list are the Elven Scouts supposed to represent? Also looking at the rules, I don't see any mention of skirmishers, so I'm assuming that showing them in a skirmish formation is actually just artistic license and in play they form a normal troop or regiment formation?

enrious
Jan 22, 2015

Atlas Hugged posted:

Which unit(s) in the Elf list are the Elven Scouts supposed to represent? Also looking at the rules, I don't see any mention of skirmishers, so I'm assuming that showing them in a skirmish formation is actually just artistic license and in play they form a normal troop or regiment formation?

In the KoW list, they're Gladestalkers. They have the ability to basically ignore difficult terraint and start the game with a free Advance or At the Double! movement.

Yes, they'd be ranked like other formations.

drgnvale
Apr 30, 2004

A sword is not cutlery!
If anyone is in the Seattle area, I'm going to try to get down to Card Kingdom next weekend with a small elf army to play some random dude off of the game store's facebook page. He says he wants to try to get a lot of kings of war stuff going on at the store, so it'd be cool to have some more people show up. The game seems like it would be quick enough to get a few games in, as opposed to 40k where I could easily hog a table for a whole morning or afternoon for a mid sized game.

I'm really looking forward to playing a minis game with good rules.

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
Just wrapped up a game of Deadzone with one of my coworkers. My marauders vs his enforcers at 70 points

Marauders
-Commando Captain
-H.E.W. Guntrack
-Commandos x 4
-Mawbeasts x 2
-Goblin Sniper
-Pyro Commando

Enforcers
-Sargent w/ frag
-Sniper
-Enforcer w/ ammo
-Enforcer w/ glue grenade
-Engineer w/ sentry gun

Turns out our mission cards were almost the same. Both of us had to maintain objectives with X being a control objective. He had kill leaders and specialists as his other goals with mine being kill everything between 7 and 13 points. Deployment ended up being the 1x8 stretch on either side of the board and a good scattering of items. Since we're playing at the boardgame pub we work at, we've been making the "?" item a pint of choice for the taker. I was worried with him taking so many items, but turns out enforcers don't have 'scour' for -any- of their mission cards. He probably could have gotten better use out of some extra bodies though.

I really just had too many priority targets close up for him to choose from, while keeping my commander tucked in a corner. I didn't know his mission to kill the Captain, I just know Cap's combat stats suck and tucked him off to the side gathering items. His sniper had 8 8-sided dice to roll at 4+ to take out my gun track and only managed 3 successes, which ended up being a running theme of the dice hating him from there out. My goblin sniper was death to anything it looked at, but the guntrack only really ended up being intimidating instead of deadly.

Last game his sentry gun was practically MVP with his overwatch rolls letting him react before I did, then pinning everything in it's sights. This game it had one good moment of suppression fire which I ended up negating with a battle card anyways. He ended up making a bad move partway through the 3rd turn where he activated everything he had when I still had the majority of my forces to still activate. It was a high risk move with him burning through battle cards to try and turn things around, but the dice just wouldn't cooperate at all. My mawbeast tore through his sarge then another enforcer in the free move wiping out the majority of his forces. We called it with only a mawbeast and pyro commando dead on my side, and everything but one enforcer on his. I keep trying to point out my goblin sniper is a glass cannon that should be dealt with sooner than later, but he's grown a healthy fear of my mawbeasts and the AP6 cannon on the wartrack worried him more than it should.

While we find 70 points is a good base and campaign amount, we both really want to play with some of the more pricey toys so going to try a 100 point match next. Might haul out the Asterians for that run if I can get a few more painted up in time.

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NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Deadzone is indeed a lot of fun, I'm gonna play it again net week!

In Kings of War, still missing some resin conversion pieces from A Mean Cow, god tier terrain goon, and another mammoth and two Aurochs from Acheson, but couldn't wait any longer for the big group before-photo, as I need to get started

Batukhaguran's Dawnstar Shock Company (name is a work in progress)



The Deinotherium (huge elephant) plus war wagon turned palanquin, ballista, some scorpions, and a crack company of goblins are going to become a Mammoth with Ballista.

The Paraceratherium (huger camel) plus hay cart, turnip cart, a couple scorpions, some Hirst bits from A Mean Cow, a wooden mast, some chains or rope, and a fearsome Ogre cap'n and his goblin crew are going to be an Army Standard on chariot.

The Mammoth (posable metal tusks not pictured) is as is, a Mammoth; the Woolly Rhino, along with a pole weapon made out of Ogre weapon parts and a skewer, is going to be 'chariot' for a captain.

The Brontotherium, along with a big pole weapon made out of Ogre two-handed weapon parts and a skewer, will make an ace 'chariot' for a Warlord.

The Daedon, Bison and Aurochs are going to drag the actual regular Ogre chariots, one animal per chariot.

Bottom left corner are a trio of hand carts, with some specific Hirst bits they'll become Red Goblin Blasters.

Most of the Goblins are going on regiment bases, with a cool idea I've had using my long grass basing scheme from the already completed units, some hirst decorations, and my own skill at portrait painting :getin:

Goblin scouts remain an unpurchased concept currently.

Leaves me with a leftover Mammoth and Rhino, but I'll think of something! All of these things fit on the bases they're meant to as well.

:manning:

What's that Batukhaguran? It's go time?

:manning::respek::black101:

It's fuckin' go time

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 9, 2015

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