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All we have to go on is the Wells Report that was released. We don't know what it was like before the "tampering" by the NFL and Jeff Pash. We don't know because the NFL refuses to release any of it or the investigative notes. So the Wells Report is decidedly not independent and it doesn't matter if it started out that way or not. So you're arguing semantics.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Alright, so we circle back to what I was saying an hour ago where I said to investigate the allegations then. If true then punish the team and put Belichick in the stockade, and if not leave them alone. And not with an investigative team that got laughed out of court by a federal judge this time. Yes investigate something that happened 10 years ago  . It's like you missed a major focus of the article was that goodell was letting the patriots get away with this poo poo over and over and over again and then finally gave a limp slap on the wrist once there was enough of a stink raised.
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The judge was right about the investigation being a total scam and shitshow, but he was completely wrong in ruling that the players didn't contractually agree to this and that they shouldn't be allowed to do that.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:48
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Nevermind forgot independent versus investigation
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Mel Mudkiper posted:edit No big deal, it happens. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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WobblySausage posted:This kind of stuff bothers me. The NCAA sucks nearly as badly or maybe worse, but at least they have the power to deal with it. Retroactively award the Rams/Panthers/Eagles the Super Bowls in which The Patriots Cheated. I would be happy then. Also Bill Simmons had an absolute meltdown on Twitter over this and it was really embarrassing to see.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:50
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Warm gatorade is laugh out loud hilarious. I hope hammer cock Belichick doubles triples quadrouples down on his hatred of the media and his cheating. I hope they strip the visiting team locker room to bare concrete and refuse medical attention to injured opponents
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Warm gatorade is laugh out loud hilarious. I hope hammer cock Belichick doubles triples quadrouples down on his hatred of the media and his cheating. I hope they strip the visiting team locker room to bare concrete and refuse medical attention to injured opponents this guy gets it
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Sep 8, 2015 20:52
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You know how in Major League where the owner tries to gently caress the team over by making their existence as miserable as possible because they are loving up her plan to tank the season? Kraft should do that. Like force the visiting teams to fly into Providence on poorly maintained DC-7s.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:53
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I just said that
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Sep 8, 2015 20:54
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I mean that straight up says cheating to me.
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Do it Goodell...go NCAA on the Pats. Put *s everywhere. Vacate their records. Make Bill Simmons literally break down sobbing during his podcast. Hold a special on ESPN where you meltdown the Pats Super Bowl rings in the Hall of Fame while cackling. Become loved by St. Louis/Carolina/Philly. Which is quite a feat since Philly loves nothing but hatred.
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:I just said that I know but I enjoy reminding people that Major League exists at every available opportunity. Baseball has Major League. Hockey has Slap Shot. Basketball has Air Bud. What does Football have? Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 20:55
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Like, Shimraa, bro, I will give you the Wells report. But bro, bro, you gotta admit your steadfast refusal to acknowledge this article as damning pending an official investigation of decade old allegations is perhaps a bit obtuse
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Sep 8, 2015 20:55
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:I just said that Oh my god
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Goodell should apply Belichek logic of focusing way too much on minutiae that doesn't really matter but still violates the spirit of rule enforcement to enforcing the rules against the Pats. "Tom Brady's pants were a millimeter too high. Two game suspension!" Perhaps then we can get rid of him in addition to causing Boston to meltdown.
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Sep 8, 2015 20:58
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TheChirurgeon posted:For me, the most interesting part of this whole process is that Sports Illustrated, and particularly ESPN, organizations that have been more than willing to carry the NFL's water in the past, have to be publishing these stories and operating with either the support of several owners, Goodell himself, or both. These stories are scathing indictments that call the league's fairness into question, and they'd never be published by these sources otherwise. The timing of the SI article is no coincidence. Yeah, I found that to be pretty interesting too. I wonder what's gonna happen to try to get a handle on it all, because if all that stuff really happened, there's a ton of poo poo goin' bananas that just doesn't go away.
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axeil posted:Goodell should apply Belichek logic of focusing way too much on minutiae that doesn't really matter but still violates the spirit of rule enforcement to enforcing the rules against the Pats. He basically already does this but with socks.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I know but I enjoy reminding people that Major League exists at every available opportunity. Baseball has Major League. Hockey has Slap Shot. Basketball has Air Bud. What does Football have? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191397/
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TubeStank posted:Oh my god what tubestank
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I know but I enjoy reminding people that Major League exists at every available opportunity. Baseball has Major League. Hockey has Slap Shot. Basketball has Air Bud. What does Football have? The Longest Yard (Burt Reynolds1970s version)
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Sep 8, 2015 21:06
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:what tubestank I laughed very hard to your response to a bad post, and made the referenced post as a result in a fit of laughter.
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Warm gatorade is laugh out loud hilarious. I hope hammer cock Belichick doubles triples quadrouples down on his hatred of the media and his cheating. I hope they strip the visiting team locker room to bare concrete and refuse medical attention to injured opponents Replace all air in visiting locker room with inert gas.
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NC-17 posted:Replace all air in visiting locker room with inert gas. Do nothing but have an entire squad of Patriots employees suspiciously mingle around the locker rooms and speak broken English when confronted.
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Sep 8, 2015 21:09
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He basically already does this but with socks. 
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Sep 8, 2015 21:13
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For years the charter bus that took teams from Logan to their hotel mysteriously always had the same rash-covered driver for each trip. Sure the blankets he passed out were warm and comfortable, but players were always wary of the scarred man's eagerness to make sure that each player was securely wrapped in one.
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Alternatively: loosen restrictions on espionage, and have a weekly publication about which teams did what. More views, more clicks, more ads, more money for the league, more poo poo to talk about during the game.
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TubeStank posted:I laughed very hard to your response to a bad post, and made the referenced post as a result in a fit of laughter. Ha sorry, been taking fire from all sides here for months I'm a little hosed up
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Sep 8, 2015 21:17
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Ha sorry, been taking fire from all sides here for months I'm a little hosed up What did your parents say when you ordered all those extra sports channel packages on their TV last Saturday?
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Ha sorry, been taking fire from all sides here for months I'm a little hosed up No worries, pal! My comment was a bit vague as to what I was saying.
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Reggie Wayne threw down his fork in disgust. drat, isn't there a place in this town that can actually cook my traditional pre-game linguine dish? I go to a new restaurant each year but it is always the same. I ask for al dente and it is either crunchy or a limp mess. I swear I never have this problem on any other road trips but here...
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What did your parents say when you ordered all those extra sports channel packages on their TV last Saturday? Life's too short to not watch the last 5 minutes of a random college game you don't even care about
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Burger Trench posted:When Schefter talks about a player signing via his sources, do you believe him? Well yeah, because his source is Jay Glazer who reported it 15 minutes before him.
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As a Pats fan I wholeheartedly agree with the other posters who said you just gotta embrace it.
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I think an NFL full fledged espionage division would be awesome. Like you could secretly pay a player to feed you information to your team but then find out three years later he was a double agent. You're allowed to spy and break-in and whatnot but when you get caught in a sting operation (or Mangini'ed, as it's called) you have to forfeit like a million dollars to ISIS
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Madcosby posted:I think an NFL full fledged espionage division would be awesome. Like you could secretly pay a player to feed you information to your team but then find out three years later he was a double agent. You're allowed to spy and break-in and whatnot but when you get caught in a sting operation (or Mangini'ed, as it's called) you have to forfeit like a million dollars to ISIS brb selling the TV option rights to TNT.
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Madcosby posted:I think an NFL full fledged espionage division would be awesome. Like you could secretly pay a player to feed you information to your team but then find out three years later he was a double agent. You're allowed to spy and break-in and whatnot but when you get caught in a sting operation (or Mangini'ed, as it's called) you have to forfeit like a million dollars to ISIS Honestly, I'd probably consume more NFL media if this happened.
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guys every time I bring up any of this stuff to my coworker he just replies with a fallout boy song called "I don't care" lol
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Sep 8, 2015 21:56
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Ehud posted:guys every time I bring up any of this stuff to my coworker he just replies with a fallout boy song called "I don't care" lol Your coworker listens to Fallout boy lol
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Ehud posted:guys every time I bring up any of this stuff to my coworker he just replies with a fallout boy song called "I don't care" lol I feel like I've asked you this before but what line of work are you in and would it be conceivable for your coworker to end up badly mauled in an industrial 'accident' involving heavy machinery?
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