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Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Xenomrph posted:

Are there any official and/or homebrew rules for "friendly fire"? E.g. if I'm firing on an enemy ship, but one of my friendly ships is between me and the enemy, I could run the risk of hitting my friendly ship or something like that.
Along the same lines, are there any rules for "running interference", e.g. if an enemy is firing on a mission critical ship but I manage to put one of my ships in direct line of sight between them, could my ship "absorb" the damage or otherwise prevent the other ship from taking damage, etc?

I don't know about friendly fire but in some of the missions included in the various expansions they have you escorting VIP ships and give players a "Protect" action which lets them assign an Evade token to the thing they're protecting with no set limit for how many ships can Protect a given thing at once.

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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Xenomrph posted:

Are there any official and/or homebrew rules for "friendly fire"? E.g. if I'm firing on an enemy ship, but one of my friendly ships is between me and the enemy, I could run the risk of hitting my friendly ship or something like that.
Along the same lines, are there any rules for "running interference", e.g. if an enemy is firing on a mission critical ship but I manage to put one of my ships in direct line of sight between them, could my ship "absorb" the damage or otherwise prevent the other ship from taking damage, etc?

Nothing for friendly fire except with some bombs, really. They do try to keep the game super simple.

There's actually an upgrade for ships that makes them act as an obstacle for shooting just like asteroids(adding a green die for the defender) but it only works for large ships. As Kai Tave said, in some scenarios they added in a "protect" action to make it a bit easier for escorts to protect an objective.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
Anyone tried something similar to this or is it too gimmicky?

36 points
Talonbane Cobra Kihraxz
Predator
Advanced Homing Missiles
Glitterstim

34 points
Kavil Y-Wing
Twin Laser Turret
Unhinged Astromech
Predator

30 points
Torkhil Mux HWK-290
Ion Cannon Turret
Recon Specialist
Moldy Crow


General gist is Torky turns Soontir or whomever into a mook and Talonbane + Kavil poop on him. I don't know about the Advanced Homing Missiles but I don't know where else to spend those points.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


We don't see enough COBRAAAAAAAA. I guess people are just more interested in Imperials and Rebels. :shrug:

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!

Endman posted:

We don't see enough COBRAAAAAAAA. I guess people are just more interested in Imperials and Rebels. :shrug:

Mostly the same reason you don't see a ton of Wedge or other X-Wings (Strobe notwithstanding). It's a solid ship, but it doesn't have any repositioning ability, and doesn't really do anything nifty. Few upgrades.

He's good, but very plain. Plus scum is still new enough that their variety is pretty low.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Hrmmmmmm. Trying to decide if it's worth paying $72.00 for the TIE/A contents of the Imperial Raider box sans the Raider and its respective upgrades.

I mean, I'm never going to field a Raider and I don't even own any of the equivalent Rebel ships but I really want those pilots. :ohdear:

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

AndyElusive posted:

Hrmmmmmm. Trying to decide if it's worth paying $72.00 for the TIE/A contents of the Imperial Raider box sans the Raider and its respective upgrades.

I mean, I'm never going to field a Raider and I don't even own any of the equivalent Rebel ships but I really want those pilots. :ohdear:

It looks really good on a shelf?



(I love my new (to me) cabinet)

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.
You don't really want Talonbane to use Predator as his EPT - His thing is he's gonna be rolling 5 Dice by preference, so you want to be Target Locked to have the maximum potential re-rolling. And if you're doing that, you can't use Predator anyway. Opportunist works, for example, but that's more with Palob than Torkhil. Likewise, if you're gonna buy Adv. Homing Missiles, you could buy an Engine Upgrade instead, to ensure you're at Range 1 instead of having the Missiles as 'something to fire at Range 2'.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

AndyElusive posted:

Hrmmmmmm. Trying to decide if it's worth paying $72.00 for the TIE/A contents of the Imperial Raider box sans the Raider and its respective upgrades.

I mean, I'm never going to field a Raider and I don't even own any of the equivalent Rebel ships but I really want those pilots. :ohdear:

Are you playing in league play or just with friends?

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Shockeh posted:

You don't really want Talonbane to use Predator as his EPT - His thing is he's gonna be rolling 5 Dice by preference, so you want to be Target Locked to have the maximum potential re-rolling. And if you're doing that, you can't use Predator anyway. Opportunist works, for example, but that's more with Palob than Torkhil. Likewise, if you're gonna buy Adv. Homing Missiles, you could buy an Engine Upgrade instead, to ensure you're at Range 1 instead of having the Missiles as 'something to fire at Range 2'.

Ah that is an excellent point. What do you think about Push the Limit and Engine upgrade instead of missiles and stim?

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Razzled posted:

Ah that is an excellent point. What do you think about Push the Limit and Engine upgrade instead of missiles and stim?

I think Glitterstim is a useful choice for, well, it works good for any ship that has more than 1 green die really. Honestly while I might go with the Engine Upgrade, I think Lightning Reflexes despite being a one and done card gives you some useful flexibility and forces your opponent to play around it even when it's not in use.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Indolent Bastard posted:

Are you playing in league play or just with friends?

Friends and randoms. I wish I were in a league!

Devlan Mud posted:

It looks really good on a shelf?

That's a very nice display shelf! :golfclap:

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

AndyElusive posted:

Friends and randoms. I wish I were in a league!

Just proxy the Raider cards. Noone cares outside of leagues or tournaments, and if they do, you probably don't want to play with them anyway, because they're super uncool.

Geisladisk fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Sep 11, 2015

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

AndyElusive posted:

Friends and randoms. I wish I were in a league!

If you have access to a color printer that can handle card stock just tell me what cards you want.

Juno Eclipse
Zertik Strom
Commander Alozen
Lieutenant Colzet
Storm Squadron Pilot
Tempest Squadron Pilot
and TIE/x1

I assume, correct?

The art won't match the originals and there won't be backs, but hey what do you want for free cards?

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?

yellowjournalism posted:

And no, the good boomsmith is not me. I am now car ramrod.


Aturi Cluster Y-Wing buddy :respek:

I've been going back and forth on BTL-A4. Three attacks per round with TLT is fantastic, but is it really worth the cost of reducing your TLT's arc from 360° to 90°?

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I'd like some constructive criticism on this list, if you chaps don't mind. I'm picking up a Hound's Tooth and a K-Wing tomorrow and thought I'd make use of Bossk and the upgrades:

Bossk (35)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Greedo (1)
Outlaw Tech (2)
K4 Security Droid (3)
Hound's Tooth (6)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Total: 98

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

AndyElusive posted:

Hrmmmmmm. Trying to decide if it's worth paying $72.00 for the TIE/A contents of the Imperial Raider box sans the Raider and its respective upgrades.

Well, the whole thing is $68 at Miniature Market, so

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/43103/s/ffgswx30/

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007


With a grand total of *drumroll* $110.92 due to shipping to the Great White North!

Indolent Bastard posted:

If you have access to a color printer that can handle card stock just tell me what cards you want.

Juno Eclipse
Zertik Strom
Commander Alozen
Lieutenant Colzet
Storm Squadron Pilot
Tempest Squadron Pilot
and TIE/x1

I assume, correct?

You assume correctly and no I don't mind the art not matching or the cards not having backs. :filez:

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Endman posted:

I'd like some constructive criticism on this list, if you chaps don't mind. I'm picking up a Hound's Tooth and a K-Wing tomorrow and thought I'd make use of Bossk and the upgrades:

Bossk (35)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Greedo (1)
Outlaw Tech (2)
K4 Security Droid (3)
Hound's Tooth (6)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Total: 98

I haven't played enough to know for sure, but I think the Agromech is better with TLT. It will allow you to use a focus on the first attack and have a target lock for the second. The Y-Wings shouldn't be getting much stress to worry about needing the extra green moves.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Orvin posted:

I haven't played enough to know for sure, but I think the Agromech is better with TLT. It will allow you to use a focus on the first attack and have a target lock for the second. The Y-Wings shouldn't be getting much stress to worry about needing the extra green moves.

You might not need all the green moves, but having your 3 turns not be red is still really nice.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!
no

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Sep 14, 2015

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

Endman posted:

I'd like some constructive criticism on this list, if you chaps don't mind. I'm picking up a Hound's Tooth and a K-Wing tomorrow and thought I'd make use of Bossk and the upgrades:

Bossk (35)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Greedo (1)
Outlaw Tech (2)
K4 Security Droid (3)
Hound's Tooth (6)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Total: 98

With what you have there, drop the unhinged astros and put on Agromechs. Also, how well does Greedo work? I have never used that card.

Played this list a couple time and it's pretty fun and effective.

Bossk (35)
Calculation (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
Recon Specialist (3)
K4 Security Droid (3)
Outlaw Tech (2)
Hound's Tooth (6)

Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R4 Agromech (2)

Cartel Marauder (20)

Total: 100

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Duct Tape posted:

Aturi Cluster Y-Wing buddy :respek:

I've been going back and forth on BTL-A4. Three attacks per round with TLT is fantastic, but is it really worth the cost of reducing your TLT's arc from 360° to 90°?

Depends how much of a challenge you want. I just rolled through the campaign with 2 TLT Ys, and the low-ps AI is pretty easy to dodge if you're running away. Just take a few bombs for Elites or crowds and you can run circles while you plink them down. While it's super effective, I think I'll go Xs and Bs next time - kiting gets a bit boring after a while.

Here's what I took on both Ys:

TLT
R2 Astromech
prox mine, proton bomb

Experimental Interface
Engine Upgrade
Autothrusters
Shield Upgrade

Marksmanship
Predator
Veteran Instincts
Horton Salm (replaces Predator)
Wedge Antilles


E: I might try having the AI target a point 2 units in front of the player ships and see if it mixes things up a bit (or maybe a random # of units in front of the ship).

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.
Are there any good imperial list with the decimator?

Antillese
Feb 16, 2006

I'm struggling with an imperial Firespray list. I'm thinking of supporting it with an Interceptor and two blocking TIEs but am unsure of how to load out the interceptor and the Firespray itself. What is the second mod that people usually run on a Royal Guard interceptor? Auto thrusters and...?

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Antillese posted:

I'm struggling with an imperial Firespray list. I'm thinking of supporting it with an Interceptor and two blocking TIEs but am unsure of how to load out the interceptor and the Firespray itself. What is the second mod that people usually run on a Royal Guard interceptor? Auto thrusters and...?

Stealth Device. With Autothrusters you can count on it saving you at least the one hit a shield upgrade would. Occasionally I'll run a Targeting Computer on Fel but with TLTs everywhere the extra defense is probably better.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I can neither confirm nor deny allegations that I placed an order on Amazon for a Y-wing, Z-95, TIE Bomber, and TIE Advanced (although the X-wing/TIE Fighter videogame nerd in me wishes it was the TIE Avenger, but whatevs), or that I've found a local board/miniature game shop that does "X-wing night" every Monday.

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
Funny, I just heard about a Monday night event at a slightly further game shop than my normal game shop.

I've been trying to get X-wing going, but it's been pretty slow going. I might have mentioned it here, It looks like it'll be a once a month thing starting October, paired with an Armada event at the same time, but at least until then I want to check out this Monday thing (or maybe do both)

You don't happen to live in Washington state?
No, Phoenix I see.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Antillese posted:

I'm struggling with an imperial Firespray list. I'm thinking of supporting it with an Interceptor and two blocking TIEs but am unsure of how to load out the interceptor and the Firespray itself. What is the second mod that people usually run on a Royal Guard interceptor? Auto thrusters and...?

I had pretty good luck with the cheapest firespray + bombs and then a squad of an interceptor + 2 Academy Pilots.

I'm not that good, though. :)

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Foolster41 posted:

Funny, I just heard about a Monday night event at a slightly further game shop than my normal game shop.

I've been trying to get X-wing going, but it's been pretty slow going. I might have mentioned it here, It looks like it'll be a once a month thing starting October, paired with an Armada event at the same time, but at least until then I want to check out this Monday thing (or maybe do both)

You don't happen to live in Washington state?
No, Phoenix I see.
Yep, there's a place called Outpost Games that's fairly close to me in Phoenix that does Monday night X-wing games. I'm planning on checking them out; I'll feel better about spending $10+ on tiny plastic spaceships if I can have a good time playing the game they're intended for, as well. :suicide:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
How are you supposed to fight the Raider? He just blasted me with lasers and plowed through my formation. :negative:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


enigmahfc posted:

With what you have there, drop the unhinged astros and put on Agromechs. Also, how well does Greedo work? I have never used that card.

Played this list a couple time and it's pretty fun and effective.

Bossk (35)
Calculation (1)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
Recon Specialist (3)
K4 Security Droid (3)
Outlaw Tech (2)
Hound's Tooth (6)

Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R4 Agromech (2)

Cartel Marauder (20)

Total: 100

Agromechs sound like a good idea, thanks goons.

As for Greedo, he's there because Bossk's ability is to change a crit into two hits, but with Greedo the first face-down damage card you deal to an enemy is face up, so you essentially get that crit right back. He also makes you vulnerable to the same thing, but I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff when I've got 6 shields to work with.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.
Would this work in a semi-competetive environment? (Its the rear afmiral in a decimator and echo)

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/316306/wubba-lubba-dub-dub

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

DJ Dizzy posted:

Would this work in a semi-competetive environment? (Its the rear afmiral in a decimator and echo)

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/316306/wubba-lubba-dub-dub

Yeah. Decimator+phantom is a pretty good list archetype. One made it to the top table at the NOVA open, for example.

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

So the text on the Tie/FO Omega Ace states:

quote:

When attacking, you may spend a focus token and a target lock token you have on the defender to change all of your results to [the critical hit icon] results

Am I reading this right that if I attack at range 1 with Omega Ace, I can spend a target lock and a focus token to guarantee 3 critical hits? Because if so that's really amazing.

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

waah posted:

So the text on the Tie/FO Omega Ace states:


Am I reading this right that if I attack at range 1 with Omega Ace, I can spend a target lock and a focus token to guarantee 3 critical hits? Because if so that's really amazing.

Before evade dice are rolled, yeah.

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Devlan Mud posted:

Before evade dice are rolled, yeah.

Awesome. I mean it's not guaranteed damage, but going from a total whiff to, "Hey that's 3 potential whiffs is awesome."

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
How does the order of operations work for Xwing? Like if I have blinded pilot on Miranda Doni, are the dice removed before I can subtract one to regen a shield?

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.
I believe whenever it's not clearly stated, it's the active player's choice.

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Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Came 16th at a summer tourney, managed to get a recon specialist!

Went with a list I came up with yesterday, had no chance to test run and with a ship (the YV-666) that I've never flown before, so I'm happy even though I got 2-3 in the results.

The list was slaver with bossk, gunner and EU, Drea with proton torps, r4-b11 and TLT (so much stress) and a syndicate thug with TLT. I faced a two ywing TLT list with a Corran (destroyed the ywing but the e-wing finished me off), a bossk, two Zs and talonbane list which I won with only one ywing lost, a fat Han and jake (only killed jake), bossk and two ion ywings, which I lost against and finally a kwing, Corran list which I won against easily.

Th slaver with bossk gunner is an absolute loving steal at 40 points, it doesn't care where it goes, I doesn't care about stress and it absolutely rips anything apart. I'm in love.

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