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verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone
There's an audio line "Who do you think you are, Donald Trump?" when throwing cash around. Please fix this obvious oversight and make all references Anglo-specific.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

All I want is the lever action. That was my weapon on every wave until Patriarch in KF1. You can get a really good rhythm going: click, aim while it reloads, click, repeat.

Yes! The lever action was my favorite weapon in KF1. It was so satisfying popping heads with it and paired pretty nicely with the pump action shotgun in the early waves

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

moot the hopple posted:

There's an audio line "Who do you think you are, Donald Trump?" when throwing cash around. Please fix this obvious oversight and make all references Anglo-specific.

the Chivalry guy misprounounces Agincourt too, I believe

how these critical bugs ever passed QA I don't even know. It's just... :sigh:




(:v:)

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009

Psion posted:

the Chivalry guy misprounounces Agincourt too, I believe

how these critical bugs ever passed QA I don't even know. It's just... :sigh:




(:v:)

He's just a cosplayer, doesn't mean he knows how to pronounce it.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Away all Goats posted:

Yes! The lever action was my favorite weapon in KF1. It was so satisfying popping heads with it and paired pretty nicely with the pump action shotgun in the early waves

Lever action and medic SMG seems like it'd be a really good combo for Sharpshooter.

That is, unless we can get dual Handcannons... :getin:

Questioner86
Feb 8, 2006
Gaming Freak Of Nature
Don't even get me started YES I KNOW THE GUY IN THE GAME CALLED IT A CLIP AND NOT A MAGAZINE, CRAWL BACK TO TFR AND DIE SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM CLIPS

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
If Hans was removed from the game tomorrow and replaced with another, harder final horde wave i wouldn't shed a single tear. He's like something that fell out of a different, much crappier game than everything surrounding him.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Questioner86 posted:

Don't even get me started YES I KNOW THE GUY IN THE GAME CALLED IT A CLIP AND NOT A MAGAZINE, CRAWL BACK TO TFR AND DIE SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM CLIPS

:allears: This brought a smile to my face (sorry you have to put up with the milspergs :v:)

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!
God forbid we try to use language correctly.

Cerepol
Dec 2, 2011


LuciferMorningstar posted:

God forbid we try to use language correctly.

Well many characters in this here game can plausibly not give a gently caress about the right term. Almost like they have something else in their mind.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
I'm very distressed that a fictional french punk rocker would use the same term to describe two similar but distinct pieces of equipment. Devs respond please.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
This is clearly a Microwave Gun, not Dragon Magic. It's like they aren't even trying guys.

Abandoned Toaster
Jun 4, 2008

Section Z posted:

I admit when I say "people will have a meltdown over X Sharpshooter thing", I'm talking mostly in regards to the pubbie masses who literally post "I can't wait until Sharp comes out so I can one hit kill fleshpounds".

Pretty sure that on top not suffering my case of "Aim inversely proportional to how important multiple headshots are", most goons who like sharp could handle the 9mm not being one headshot on Hard+ trash clear for them by default.

Back to assumptions about pubbie public, I expect a lot of freak outs if the sharpshooter can't deal better headshot damage with the gunslinger guns than the gunslinger itself.

Yeah I wasn't attacking you specifically, just preemptively baffling at how pubbies can (and likely will) be so bad when Tripwire clearly buffed the knife for a reason and has (and likely will) add alternatives to the 9mm. Plus, I get the feeling if they're not on the top of the scoreboard the class is poo poo and needs a buff, forget Firebug and Commando and the other classes taking out the weaklings.

Also, am I the only one who thinks 25 ammo per pickup for the Microwave Gun is just a little too low, especially on later waves when people are magdumping into Scrakes and Fleshpounds and against Hans? If a full clip of 100 is too much just make it 50 at least.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Abandoned Toaster posted:

Also, am I the only one who thinks 25 ammo per pickup for the Microwave Gun is just a little too low, especially on later waves when people are magdumping into Scrakes and Fleshpounds and against Hans? If a full clip of 100 is too much just make it 50 at least.

Yeah it's a little weird it's so low.Especially since the microwave gun doesn't 'burn' zeds like the flamethrower/cnb so you can't just tap and move on.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
Don't hold down M1 with Microwave gun. there's quite a bit of impact damage with it, you are better off tapping M1 like you are using the burst fire on the AK. This also saves a fair bit of ammo.

Actually this goes true with all non-Trenchgun Firebug weapons, it's much more important for the MWG though because yeah there's no burn damage on it.

Orange Crush Rush fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Sep 14, 2015

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Orange Crush Rush posted:

it's much more important for the MWG though because yeah there's no burn damage on it.

It has DOT, it's just represented by zeds swelling up into hot dog men

Also

http://youtu.be/A0d5dqInvKg

lol

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Abandoned Toaster posted:

Yeah I wasn't attacking you specifically, just preemptively baffling at how pubbies can (and likely will) be so bad when Tripwire clearly buffed the knife for a reason and has (and likely will) add alternatives to the 9mm. Plus, I get the feeling if they're not on the top of the scoreboard the class is poo poo and needs a buff, forget Firebug and Commando and the other classes taking out the weaklings.

Also, am I the only one who thinks 25 ammo per pickup for the Microwave Gun is just a little too low, especially on later waves when people are magdumping into Scrakes and Fleshpounds and against Hans? If a full clip of 100 is too much just make it 50 at least.

It's understandable. I'm in a strange spot where I'm both well aware of my "Above Average, because apparently average has brain damage" shootmans skills, but still annoyed when people legit better at the game than me still act like every aspect of every viddy game should cater to both their robotic precision, and own pet EZ Mode exploits (and still calling those Skill). Most people in this thread have been much more "Normal Person Playing Video Games" outlook though.

Biggest standout was probably when I was still playing Hawken. Awash in a sea of 'No, just get good', I finally hit the level I can use the Air Dodge part without paying real money for it early. Oh look my KDR flipped to positive and I have 5 dominations in a 6 vs 6 game mode now, but no "Air dodge is garbage, only bad players can't no scope something air dashing 3-4 times out of the sky with a slow grenade launcher". Apparently I was secretly pro all alone and everyone I fought from that point just needed to git good :v:

PS: 1/4 a mag from an ammo box is bullshit no matter what weapon it is.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
Does Tripwire have plans for implementing new game modes? Every now and then I'll join a game with people who stubbornly refuse to camp hallyway X or flagpole Y every wave and will instead defend wherever the shop pod takes them. It's surprisingly refreshing. Made me wish there were other ways to play the game besides static defense mode.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


KF1 had an objective mode where you had to go around the map doing stuff, escorting VIPs and stuff like that. The KF2 interface does have a game type space for it, with Survival the only option, which suggests others are planned.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Abandoned Toaster posted:

Also, am I the only one who thinks 25 ammo per pickup for the Microwave Gun is just a little too low, especially on later waves when people are magdumping into Scrakes and Fleshpounds and against Hans? If a full clip of 100 is too much just make it 50 at least.

No, I think everyone thinks that. The addition of partial ammo reloads in the boxes, while theoretically neat, should be served to do things like "make the double barrel get 8 shells despite carrying 2/46" instead of "make the microwave/flamer get 25 despite carrying 100/400"

Questioner86 posted:

Don't even get me started YES I KNOW THE GUY IN THE GAME CALLED IT A CLIP AND NOT A MAGAZINE, CRAWL BACK TO TFR AND DIE SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM CLIPS

this is going in your quarterly report buddy

first Agincourt
now clips
where does it end



Colosmicon
Jan 5, 2013
I want a reload animation where I try to stuff a rolled-up copy of People into an SA-80.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Colosmicon posted:

I want a reload animation where I try to stuff a rolled-up copy of People into an SA-80.

I'm okay with this only if we get one of them trying to stuff a pile of actual clips in there, too

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Typical Pubbie posted:

Does Tripwire have plans for implementing new game modes? Every now and then I'll join a game with people who stubbornly refuse to camp hallyway X or flagpole Y every wave and will instead defend wherever the shop pod takes them. It's surprisingly refreshing. Made me wish there were other ways to play the game besides static defense mode.

Yeah those games are great. Except sometimes they try to defend a narrow tight hallway and like the first spawns are a bunch of scrakes/fp with sirens behind them.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Psion posted:

No, I think everyone thinks that. The addition of partial ammo reloads in the boxes, while theoretically neat, should be served to do things like "make the double barrel get 8 shells despite carrying 2/46" instead of "make the microwave/flamer get 25 despite carrying 100/400"


this is going in your quarterly report buddy

first Agincourt
now clips
where does it end

It'd be interesting if player ammo capacity and ammo per boxes stayed nerfed while the number of boxes increased significantly. Make you roam the level mid-wave to scavenge for ammo instead of just holing up in the same room every game

Dunno if it'd be good but it'd certainly be different, and I feel like it could be made to be good

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
Actually no

I mean it would result in throwing 450 grenades per wave, but no


and if we get into the idea of "gently caress over ammo box grenade capacity" to balance that then just....no

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Did they take away the ability to burn through leveling tree in servers with a lot of people or are the only 20+ servers just hosed?

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Psion posted:

Actually no

I mean it would result in throwing 450 grenades per wave, but no


and if we get into the idea of "gently caress over ammo box grenade capacity" to balance that then just....no

Why is spamming grenades a problem, again?

You're just convincing me that my idea owns :v:

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg
Personally, I don't see the problem with having tons of ammo. It won't make the game less fun if people get to shoot their primary all the time instead of scrounging for spare shots.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

Personally, I don't see the problem with having tons of ammo. It won't make the game less fun if people get to shoot their primary all the time instead of scrounging for spare shots.
I don't know, I like the feeling of whipping out the bigass guns when a threat comes around the corner, rather than just shooting everything with the same gun once I unlock it.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
I like being surrounded by enemies and just chucking a dynamite stick into a face and getting a nice +87 xp

Also how much did they buff Hans' xp by?

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Ravenfood posted:

I don't know, I like the feeling of whipping out the bigass guns when a threat comes around the corner, rather than just shooting everything with the same gun once I unlock it.

There's a middle ground between a good amount of primary ammo and so much primary ammo you never have to switch away from the cool poo poo, and really they're almost but not quite there, I don't think we're in danger of overcorrecting so hard you literally never switch away from your T4.

Speaking of, though, Firebug needs a -1 weight on either the micro or the trench imo. Let me bring a medpistol! Everyone should bring medpistols.

Psion fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Sep 14, 2015

Frida Call Me
Sep 28, 2001

Boy, you gotta carry that weight
Carry that weight a long time

Psion posted:

There's a middle ground between a good amount of primary ammo and so much primary ammo you never have to switch away from the cool poo poo, and really they're almost but not quite there, I don't think we're in danger of overcorrecting so hard you literally never switch away from your T4.

Speaking of, though, Firebug needs a -1 weight on either the micro or the trench imo. Let me bring a medpistol! Everyone should bring medpistols.

They'll give it to the trench if anything. -1 on the micro would let you carry the flamethrower too, which would be way too fun.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
They should nerf base ammo and add more ammo boxes around the map.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Matrim posted:

They'll give it to the trench if anything. -1 on the micro would let you carry the flamethrower too, which would be way too fun.

That is my dream setup for Firebug. Why is it a problem? Why saddle players with boring guns when you could instead carry around both of the best weapons? Similarly, I think the Eviscerator is way too heavy. You can't even carry one with a Zweihander.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
the Eviscerator should have been a direct rip off of the Sawblade gun from Redneck Rampage.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmf_QN09Olk

I never realized you could do that in KF1.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.

Azran posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmf_QN09Olk

I never realized you could do that in KF1.

Actually you generally can't. If it collides with the skybox, the grenades disappear. Maps with large skyboxes like Farm and Mountainpass are big enough that the grenades eventually arc down.

I'm sure you can still do that in KF2, there just aren't gigantic maps for it yet.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Ravenfood posted:

I don't know, I like the feeling of whipping out the bigass guns when a threat comes around the corner, rather than just shooting everything with the same gun once I unlock it.

I have to agree. The scarcity of ammo in KF1 basically forced me to learn how to best line up shots so I could take out 3+ zeds at a time with one shotgun blast. I remember even having to crouch to get the perfect angle to also get those pesky crawlers, or waiting for them to jump so they would line up with the clots/gorefasts heads.

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Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

That is my dream setup for Firebug. Why is it a problem? Why saddle players with boring guns when you could instead carry around both of the best weapons? Similarly, I think the Eviscerator is way too heavy. You can't even carry one with a Zweihander.

Eviscerator is garbage, they're doing you a favor.

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