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OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

ChairMaster posted:

Well I mostly meant that as a response to the idea that flying planes is fun, even though the only time you do any flying is when poo poo goes really wrong and you have to fix it, which doesn't sound that fun.

The only really exciting and thrilling parts of the flight are takeoff and landing, which they do themselves anyway. No point in just holding the stick like a moron for 10 hours straight when you've got tons of other stuff to worry about in the cockpit (fuel calculations, navigations, communications with ATC etc).

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

OhYeah posted:

The only really exciting and thrilling parts of the flight are takeoff and landing, which they do themselves anyway. No point in just holding the stick like a moron for 10 hours straight when you've got tons of other stuff to worry about in the cockpit (fuel calculations, navigations, communications with ATC etc).

Exactly. Just because you aren't physically controlling the plane doesn't mean you aren't doing anything. There's a reason why minimum flight crew on jets has gone down from 3 to 2 (and 1 for some business jets now).

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Ate you guys talking Air France 447, where two pilots managed to stall an Airbus and divot it into the ocean from FL300?

Thing about that flight was that in normal conditions its impossible to induce a stall. The stick is basically an up/down control and the AP keeps to from stalling and killing everyone.

What killed all those people is the fact that the same thing that caused the AP disconnect was a speed sensor (most likely pitot tube icing) failure that also forced the AP into an alternate logic mode where stalling the plane would be possible.

So these two pilots who should have had more training recognising and dealing with system failures forgot that in certain circumstances yes you can stall an Airbus and as a result hundreds died.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Sep 17, 2015

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

HookShot posted:

Yes, lie to an agency that will then be judging whether or not she gets to stay in the country permanently (and remember that you're going to have to submit your marriage certificate with the date on it when you do that!), that sounds like a great idea.


I filled out some forms for someone applying for a tourist visa once and don't recall a question about whether you were secretly married to a Canadian. If that's actually a thing they ask then yeah I wasn't going to lie about it but I thought maybe if I didn't volunteer the information it wouldn't come up.

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Throatwarbler posted:

I filled out some forms for someone applying for a tourist visa once and don't recall a question about whether you were secretly married to a Canadian. If that's actually a thing they ask then yeah I wasn't going to lie about it but I thought maybe if I didn't volunteer the information it wouldn't come up.

Generally speaking, it is frowned upon to withhold information that would have caused someone to make a different decision. I don't know about Canada, but a friend of mine (not American) is married to a woman who illegally stayed in the US for a few months years before they were married and nobody thought anything of it until he got a job here in the US. Now, when ever they come back in to the country it takes 24-48 hours to clear customs because she has been flagged as someone who has violated her visa before. She is a permanent resident now.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Throatwarbler posted:

I filled out some forms for someone applying for a tourist visa once and don't recall a question about whether you were secretly married to a Canadian. If that's actually a thing they ask then yeah I wasn't going to lie about it but I thought maybe if I didn't volunteer the information it wouldn't come up.

The main thing they look for is making sure people aren't going to be overstaying their visas, and having strong family ties to Canadians (ie being married to one) is the number one thing they look for. It will come up.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

HookShot posted:

The main thing they look for is making sure people aren't going to be overstaying their visas, and having strong family ties to Canadians (ie being married to one) is the number one thing they look for. It will come up.

When bringing my wife up from the us while the external application was ongoing the thing they were interested in was having her prove that she had ties back home that would cause her not to over extend her visitor visa. Like family, a job, a house or a car or things like that. Given that they usually don't even stamp your passport when going between the us and Canada if you are a citizen of either country makes it easier to do the 6 month visitor visa then extend it repeatedly game. I do imagine that stuff would all be trickier, riskier and way more of a pain if being done from a country other than the US.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

MickeyFinn posted:

Generally speaking, it is frowned upon to withhold information that would have caused someone to make a different decision. I don't know about Canada, but a friend of mine (not American) is married to a woman who illegally stayed in the US for a few months years before they were married and nobody thought anything of it until he got a job here in the US. Now, when ever they come back in to the country it takes 24-48 hours to clear customs because she has been flagged as someone who has violated her visa before. She is a permanent resident now.

Yeah don't do ANYTHING to even maybe sort of get immigration upset at you, it will gently caress you over for life.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Squibbles posted:

When bringing my wife up from the us while the external application was ongoing the thing they were interested in was having her prove that she had ties back home that would cause her not to over extend her visitor visa. Like family, a job, a house or a car or things like that. Given that they usually don't even stamp your passport when going between the us and Canada if you are a citizen of either country makes it easier to do the 6 month visitor visa then extend it repeatedly game. I do imagine that stuff would all be trickier, riskier and way more of a pain if being done from a country other than the US.

Yeah, they generally don't worry too much about it with people from other first world countries because they figure they're going back to a life that's basically the same as what they'd have in Canada. But with China she has to fully apply for a visa before they'll even allow her to visit for six months. And it's not an easy process.

People from first world countries have no idea what kind of annoyance it is to travel when you have a passport from somewhere that isn't basically the US/Canada/Western Europe/Australia/NZ.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/building-with-containers-has-few-advantages-architect-says-1.3231377

quote:

Building with containers has few advantages, architect says

An architect says the trend of buildings made of shipping containers — which has gotten some traction in Vancouver — is one that should be condemned and torn down.

Mark Hogan, with the San Francisco-based firm OpenScope, says that while shipping container buildings may have limited use as temporary structures, using them for housing and other purposes makes no sense.

"There's an idea that this is a very cheap way to do things and it's like a stack of Legos and you can arrange them however you like, and that's what many of these renderings you see on the Internet lead you to believe," he said.

Hogan says that while container structures do have their uses, they're not some sort of cure-all that can solve affordable housing crises in Vancouver or other places. In fact, they may cause more problems than they solve.

Major problems

In a widely-circulated blog post, Hogan claims there are a few major problems with shipping container structures.

First, they require substantial insulation, which takes away from the already small amount of space.

Second, tall container structures need a lot of concrete, and a powerful crane to do stacking work. This increases costs.

Third, utilities and mechanical systems, especially heating and air conditioning, are needed in the all-steel buildings. These also take up a lot of room, particularly headspace.

And finally, the "green" benefits of these structures are often greatly overblown, because many containers aren't recycled for construction. It's often cheaper and easier to buy new ones which have not been used in transportation because they don't require cleaning.

"They've been outlined as a solution to mass housing around the world … but they really just don't work for that," Hogan said.

So why are they so popular? Hogan says it's because many clients are sold on the idea of these structures without understanding the realities, and architects often design them thinking about aesthetics first, not practicalities.

What about Atira?

In Vancouver, the most notable structure built of container's is the Atira Housing's 12-unit structure on Alexander Street that provides social housing for women.

Atira claims the building cost less than $80,000 per unit.

"That is very cheap, but they're also building units that are only two metres wide," he said. "There's a lot of constraints. And I think that in very specific cases like that, and if those numbers are true, then that's a real accomplishment."

Despite this possible success, Hogan says these structures should not be seen as an easy solution to Canada's social housing needs.


lol

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Yeah that's legit, container housing is like solar panel bike paths. It's all optics and green washing or what ever but the idea it self is impractical and useless. I got really excited about container buildings when they first were being mentioned but then I looked into them beyond the people trying to sell them and realized they're way more trouble than they're worth.

The fact that they haven't exploded as a form of housing is blamed by "regulations" by their mindless boosters. "If only the city would allow container homes!". They do, no one's building them in mass because they are not actually cheaper and actually make lovely buildings. I mean I guess cities could remove regulations for basic insulation and utilities and people could just roast/freeze inside a cramped steel box. I'm sure people in Vancouver would be ok with that so long as they could start building container equity.

Much like 6 story wood frame construction, once you look at the details and actually cost it all out and take into account the quality of the structures it's not a "game changer". The problem isn't in construction or building codes.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Wow you sound like a bitter renter who's brainwashed by tommunism

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
A lot of these silly trends are only slightly better thought out than when a kid finds a few sheets of plywood and a bucket of old nails and goes 'hey lets build a fort!'

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
You know what we should all do? Build a tiny house the size of a shed! Buy a house with two other couples and co-share! Live in a van down by the river! (sorry Rime)

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
Will it have a granite rope ladder?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Tiny homes are why we need a leader to implement the final solution to the hipster problem.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

CI, you have to watch this:

http://magnasearchgroup.tv/2015/09/16/big-game-hunters-014/

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Say whatever you want I still want to live in a tiny house built on a old lady's driveway

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

I don't know what these people do, but their inability to place their microphones properly has me not caring either.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

32MB OF ESRAM posted:

Say whatever you want I still want to live in a tiny house built on a old lady's driveway

If it weren't for Rime's inability to find an affordable van in Vancouver to move into I would suggest going that route. Unfortunately he's going to have to build up his cardboard equity first until he can get a broker to even look at buying a fixer upper work van at the salvage auctions (Chinese scrap prices are buying up all of our vans!)

On the plus side his building materials are 100% recyclable and sustainable so he should have some home improvement grants coming his way.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Sep 17, 2015

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

dubstep

The lebron James of Java

We've got the mountains we've got the ocean we've got women

Hootsuite is a big tech beast unlike any other

OK I'm done.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Did he loving say "the Sidney Crosby of iOS"?

I hate working in tech so, so much.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
It's fed day motherfuckers. 2:30pm est for rate decision.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Preparing for the apocalypse / UP UP UP (regardless of what the fed decides).

Van/boat living seems like an attractive option right up until you remember that winter is a thing. Also parking and utilities. And garbage. And vehicle theft.

TROIKA CURES GREEK
Jun 30, 2015

by R. Guyovich

HookShot posted:

Hadn't autopilot been disengaged for ages before they started trying to make the plane climb forever? I thought as soon as they hit the hail the autopilot disengaged. They should have listened to the loudly beeping stall warnings though.

They could have sat there in the cockpit giving each other handies and the plane would have been perfectly fine, if a little offcourse. That's why everyone was speculating it was something crazy like positive lightning or something that brought it down at first because no one imagined the pilots would be that dumb. It wouldn't be too difficult to automate them better than a lovely pilot but they certainly wouldn't be doing a Sullenburger landing. Let's just say the vast improvement in safety certainly hasn't been because of the pilot, who is on average younger, less trained, under-paid, and over-worked, compared to years ago.

quote:

So here is the picture at that moment: the airplane was in steady-state cruise, pointing straight ahead without pitching up or down, and with the power set perfectly to deliver a tranquil .80 Mach. The turbulence was so light that one could have walked the aisles—though perhaps a bit unsteadily. Aside from a minor blip in altitude indication, the only significant failure was the indication of airspeed—but the airspeed itself was unaffected. No crisis existed. The episode should have been a non-event, and one that would not last long. The airplane was in the control of the pilots, and if they had done nothing, they would have done all they needed to do.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/10/air-france-flight-447-crash

TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 17, 2015

milkrun
Mar 7, 2007

Cultural Imperial posted:

It's fed day motherfuckers. 2:30pm est for rate decision.

Is there any chance they'll do anything other than hold it at 0.5%?

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

milkrun posted:

Is there any chance they'll do anything other than hold it at 0.5%?

The Fed Rate is 0.25, the BoC rate is 0.5.

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:


This is why you should never use an external recruiter.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

milkrun posted:

Is there any chance they'll do anything other than hold it at 0.5%?

Roughly 30% chance. Much more likely in October, 100% chance by Dec.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
wanna see the 0.125% interest rate

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Dreylad posted:

wanna see the 0.125% interest rate

wanna see the 12.5% interest rate, bring back the 80's.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Baronjutter posted:

wanna see the 12.5% interest rate, bring back the 80's.

Yeah, no kidding. My mom managed to get a 15% GIC when I was born which became my university fund.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
20 minutes to the rate hike :getin:

quote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ei-benefits-july-statistics-canada-1.3231759?cmp=rss

Alberta has seen a growing number of EI recipients for several months now, but that growth slowed in July. The province's EI number increased by 1.8 per cent in July from June's level. But over the longer term, the number has skyrocketed — there are now 72.2 per cent more people on EI in Alberta than there were a year ago.

Currently, 52,700 people receiving EI benefits in Alberta, a figure that has increased for nine months in a row.

Most of the increase in July came from the metropolitan area of Edmonton (up 4.6 per cent), with the number of beneficiaries totalling 17,800, marking a ninth consecutive monthly increase. There was little change in Calgary and a slight increase of 1.6 per cent for the rest of the province.

Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Sep 17, 2015

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
No hike.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
:negative:

Goddamit.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Ex housing, I'm a dove.


gently caress YOU JANET

:negative:

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Nearly a decade of sinking borrowing costs will eventually give way.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I'm an economic dummy, what would a rake hike have meant for Canada?

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

HookShot posted:

I'm an economic dummy, what would a rake hike have meant for Canada?

Interest rate hikes all over the place, most likely.

\/\/\/ That too.

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Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

HookShot posted:

I'm an economic dummy, what would a rake hike have meant for Canada?

Lower Canadian dollar

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