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PCOS Bill posted:Teach her? She knows how, just refuses. So it would be a second car vs an only car.
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iwentdoodie posted:She knows how, just refuses. So it would be a second car vs an only car. Time to upgrade.
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I thoroughly enjoy my 2014 Fusion therefore this argument is over.
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PCOS Bill posted:Time to upgrade. I already have a project car and a bike. I think I'm okay.
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iwentdoodie posted:I already have a project car and a bike. I think I'm okay. Not what I meant
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Given how aggressively they push leases (Their entire business model is built on them), you could probably roll in a high end BMW/Audi/Benz for the same monthly cost as an RS, assuming good credit. I will say that a base Mustang GT with performance package being available at $40k CAD is pretty tempting, though. The new Camaro looks better on most fronts except for the retained visibility issue, but visibility is kind of a big loving deal in a car.
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Wheeee posted:Given how aggressively they push leases (Their entire business model is built on them), you could probably roll in a high end BMW/Audi/Benz for the same monthly cost as an RS, assuming good credit. Neat, which AWD turbo hot hatch do BMW, Audi, and MB make?
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PCOS Bill posted:Neat, which AWD turbo hot hatch do BMW, Audi, and MB make [that you can buy in North America]? Fixed that out for ya. If you can't decide between a GT or a RS, just get both! 
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Sep 19, 2015 01:08
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El Scotch posted:Fixed that out for ya. Hey, no jumping ahead.
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Wheeee posted:Given how aggressively they push leases (Their entire business model is built on them), you could probably roll in a high end BMW/Audi/Benz for the same monthly cost as an RS, assuming good credit. That presumes you actually WANT any of those cars.
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BloodBag posted:I don't hear powershift bitching on end about an F150 platinum being a $25K base truck with $26K of appearance packages. sauce This is infinitely more stupid than a Focus RS for $40k.
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Some of them are pretty nice if you don't have to personally worry about the residual value being in free fall or the pieces of poo poo falling apart after a few years! The best hatch is still the Micra though since you can buy one, drive it to death by playing race car driver on the street, buy another one and kill it playing Dukes of Hazzard, buy a third to keep as a daily driver as you salvage parts from the first two to combine into a track toy, then buy a used full size truck to haul your Nissan hoard around, all for the price of an RS.
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Wheeee posted:Some of them are pretty nice if you don't have to personally worry about the residual value being in free fall or the pieces of poo poo falling apart after a few years! I'm sure the people in the countries that have the Micra enjoy them.
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Wheeee posted:Some of them are pretty nice if you don't have to personally worry about the residual value being in free fall or the pieces of poo poo falling apart after a few years! Your hate on for Ford is so amazing that I've come twice just thinking about it. Mein Fuhrer, please tell me more about the magic of German autos!
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Wheeee posted:Some of them are pretty nice if you don't have to personally worry about the residual value being in free fall or the pieces of poo poo falling apart after a few years! Or just buy an RS because gently caress that dumb poo poo
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Truedelta reliability figures for the Ford Focus and Fusion seem consistently worse than the gas versions of the Jetta/Golf and Passat.quote:Neat, which AWD turbo hot hatch do BMW, Audi, and MB make? They all do, they just call them compact SUVs. Remind me how many affordable manual transmission wagons Ford makes again? I hope its still OK to like those? Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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The X1 (1st gen) with the twin turbo I6 was basically an E91 (slightly smaller?) with an engine it never had in NA for some dumb reason. If I didn't need more interior room I'd be checking out the off leases for deals.
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hey guys look at these vehicles that are nothing like the vehicles you're talking about OWNED
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I like the RS a whole lot and would drive it around and zoom and shift gears and get out and have people go 'woah sweet is that an RS??' and I'd go 'yeah it's great!' and use it to haul groceries and things that I haul regularly and merge on the highway real fast maybe take it to a track day. 
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Throatwarbler posted:
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PCOS Bill posted:You can't see me but I'm laughing at you. Here is an A45 AMG "car"  and a GLA 45 amg "SUV" 
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PCOS Bill posted:Neat, which AWD turbo hot hatch do BMW, Audi, and MB make? 235i, S3, and CLA/GLA45AMG? 235i isnt reall a hot hatch, but eh, its 45K for AWD version. S3 is 41K ish CLA45 is 48K. RS starts at 36K. none of those are really "hatches" though
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Powershift posted:Here is an A45 AMG "car" Guess which one I want
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KakerMix posted:Guess which one I want The car, obviously, because driving something called an "SUV" makes you a soccer mom.
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KakerMix posted:Guess which one I want the one not available in the US
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Frank Dillinger posted:235i, S3, and CLA/GLA45AMG? You might as well have said "Miata" because you'd have been as close to hatch that way.
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I saw 300 new replies to this topic and thought "Ooo! Something really exciting must have been announced!" But no, it's just everyone arguing about whose preference is the right one. The VW diesel thing is pretty funny though. Edit: Decided to add some content here. I know this has been done before but I decided to see just how ridiculous the options pricing on Porsches is. I started with a base model Porsche Cayenne, at $58,200 and optioned it up to this monstrosity:   That work of art would cost me $172,035. http://www.porsche-code.com/PGA7D8J6 Nearly 3x the base cost, with only minimal performance upgrades. Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Powershift posted:The car, obviously, because driving something called an "SUV" makes you a soccer mom. It might be the proportions on the car are better to me that the SUV. Hood height, door height, wheel sizes, ground clearance. Maybe I don't want to ride higher? Maybe I don't want (what I consider) bloated proportions? Maybe I don't like the (gasp!) colors available? If Mercedes can't sell me a car then that's on them, I get to decide my purchase on anything from stigma, what the CEO says about women, or if they were caught installing a defeat device to fake EPA smog numbers since 2009.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I saw 300 new replies to this topic and thought "Ooo! Something really exciting must have been announced!" But no, it's just everyone arguing about whose preference is the right one. I didn't say anyone else's was wrong. I said I don't want anything but my preferences.
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On new(ish) car news, did you guys see the Civic wagon?  Not predicting a lot of euro wagon fetishists clamoring for this one...
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PCOS Bill posted:I'm sure the people in the countries that have the Micra enjoy them. They don't, they're a stripped down city car for third worlders and poors.
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Powershift posted:Here is an A45 AMG "car" GLA45 really might be my next car. So absurd. It would be a perfect followup to my abarth.
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eyebeem posted:GLA45 really might be my next car. So absurd. It would be a perfect followup to my abarth. I like how the regular GLA doesn't even come with a lift, the lift is a separate option package. Also if you do, get the ridiculous rear spoiler too. 
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Mange Mite posted:They don't, they're a stripped down city car for third worlders and poors. You know what I'm getting at here. Mange Mite posted:On new(ish) car news, did you guys see the Civic wagon? I'd rather have the Fit with a manual
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Mange Mite posted:I like how the regular GLA doesn't even come with a lift, the lift is a separate option package. I saw one of these driving around a few days ago. I thought it was the A class because of how small it looked.
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Stealth Like posted:I saw one of these driving around a few days ago. I thought it was the A class because of how small it looked. It is an A-class.
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El Scotch posted:It is an A-class. I mean I didn't realize the GLA was that small and thought it was an A that found its way here.
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How long do you all think it'll be before you can actually get an RS at a reasonable price and not pay MSRP? After asking a local Ford dealership not two months ago about the RS and having the fuckwits tell me it's a europe only car (and this was after the ford.com news posts announcing it) I have to imagine their lovely dealer network will get at least a year out it, or maybe just kill the model completely trying to suck it dry of all possible profit. But the real question is, will the RS thread be shittier than the BRZ/FRS thread? If the discussion so far is any indication, the answer is yes!
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Mat_Drinks posted:How long do you all think it'll be before you can actually get an RS at a reasonable price and not pay MSRP? After asking a local Ford dealership not two months ago about the RS and having the fuckwits tell me it's a europe only car (and this was after the ford.com news posts announcing it) I have to imagine their lovely dealer network will get at least a year out it, or maybe just kill the model completely trying to suck it dry of all possible profit. It will be 1.5x worse, due to having 1.5x the hp.
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