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For me Obliterators (the "current" ones, not the older thing goatface posted) do just what they're supposed to, model-wise, and even those possessed aren't that bad. No defense of the others though.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:04
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I never liked the organic chaosy look of the new oblits. I really wish they stuck with the style that goatface posted. Maybe FW will do them justice someday.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:09
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They very clearly angle outward.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:09
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mr. mephistopheles posted:They very clearly angle outward. The hurricane bolters on the model itself can physically move forward that close though, and rules-wise they have a 180 degree firing arc. It's poorly designed, like a lot of the more recent SM stuff.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:11
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BULBASAUR posted:I never liked the organic chaosy look of the new oblits. I really wish they stuck with the style that goatface posted. Maybe FW will do them justice someday. Fair enough, and I won't deny that it'd be awesome if FW did a visual variant based on retro models they way they've done with some other stuff.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:11
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They could have put heavy bolter ball turrets in there, manned by junior initiates as a rite of passage.Then they'd have more than 20 degrees of coverage
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Sep 23, 2015 21:12
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JerryLee posted:For me Obliterators (the "current" ones, not the older thing goatface posted) do just what they're supposed to, model-wise, and even those possessed aren't that bad. No defense of the others though. The melee variant of the Obliterators are awful though
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Sep 23, 2015 21:15
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I have no strong feelings about the shortboat. I've liked the oblits all the way along. When they were janky old citadel models. When they were hellraisers that fell in a toolbox, and the new half-tyranid things. But the best oblits of all time were the ones this guy made: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/172506-night-lords-18th-battle-company-flight-715/page-2 His thread is kind of perfect for this thread. It's full of 'what the gently caress, why are you wasting all this talent and money on GW' and also 'god that's awesome'.
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goatface posted:They could have put heavy bolter ball turrets in there, manned by junior initiates as a rite of passage.Then they'd have more than 20 degrees of coverage Exactly what the Dark Angels did: 
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Sep 23, 2015 21:15
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Needs a bayonet on the end of the minigun.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:19
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goatface posted:They could have put heavy bolter ball turrets in there, manned by junior initiates as a rite of passage.Then they'd have more than 20 degrees of coverage There's a different, slightly less terrible Space Marine plane that has those.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:21
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:Needs a bayonet on the end of the minigun. It's one of my favorite worst models because, like a hieronymus bosch painting, there's so much going on that just doesn't make any sense
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Sep 23, 2015 21:23
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BULBASAUR posted:It's one of my favorite worst models because, like a hieronymus bosch painting, there's so much going on that just doesn't make any sense I dunno, the gunner is the only really dumb part of that speeder IMHO
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Sep 23, 2015 21:25
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BULBASAUR posted:It's one of my favorite worst models because, like a hieronymus bosch painting, there's so much going on that just doesn't make any sense How dare you drag Bosch's work through the mud by comparing him to GW. This is worse than the time you said you didn't like something that I liked.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:28
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:But the best oblits of all time were the ones this guy made: In the new Dark Angels codex there's some artwork of either this or the darkshroud. The artist put a muzzleflash on the end of that sensor rod on the front end; they thought it was a gun. 
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Sep 23, 2015 22:03
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Wait does it have a twin-linked plasma cannon turret that can't elevate? 
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Sep 23, 2015 22:10
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goatface posted:That is a very small assault boat. I still have three of these, unpainted, from just before I gave up hamming at secondary school. I genuinely like the models. E: spectralent posted:Wait does it have a twin-linked plasma cannon turret that can't elevate? Presumably the whole vehicle changes angle in order to elevate/depress the turret. Far worse is the fact that the plasma gun turret appears to fire BARELY over the head of the front gunner, if at all.
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Improbable Lobster posted:I dunno, the gunner is the only really dumb part of that speeder IMHO How about the midget that must be inside the chapel shaped cockpit? Or is it just a tiny space marine? It's a mystery!
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Sep 23, 2015 22:38
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He's halfway to being a Dreadnought.
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Sep 23, 2015 22:42
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spectralent posted:Wait does it have a twin-linked plasma cannon turret that can't elevate? The imperium has worked hard to eliminate gun depression; all the Emporer's guns are happy guns!
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Sep 23, 2015 22:48
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BULBASAUR posted:How about the midget that must be inside the chapel shaped cockpit? Or is it just a tiny space marine?
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Sep 23, 2015 23:02
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No Pun Intended posted:The imperium has worked hard to eliminate gun depression; all the Emporer's guns are happy guns! Interim Fix for KB299384: Gun Depression unavailable on twin linked 'Land's End Catalog' Plasma-style turret. 1 - Enter Land Speeder turret housing 'Dunning Krueger' Configuration device as normal. 2 - Identify target as normal 3 - Pray to emperor as normal 4 - Use internal Land-Speaker communication system to ask pilot to bank sharply to left or right. 5 - Fire as weapon comes to bear.
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Pierzak posted:Nah, the flyer with landing gear on the lower turret is worse. (ed: the Stormtalon) It's actually a real thing, using linked turrets of infantry weapons sometimes makes sense. There was a linked version for Bi-planes that used Thompsons and an anti-infantry version the Russians used in WWII that mounted 80 PPSH-41 SMG's inside the bay of a bomber. They also show up in places like Libya where guys are making stuff in garages, and when you don't have real heavy infantry support weapons, having four normal guns shooting at loosely the same place is an average substitute.
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Sep 24, 2015 01:35
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El Estrago Bonito posted:It's actually a real thing, using linked turrets of infantry weapons sometimes makes sense. There was a linked version for Bi-planes that used Thompsons and an anti-infantry version the Russians used in WWII that mounted 80 PPSH-41 SMG's inside the bay of a bomber. They also show up in places like Libya where guys are making stuff in garages, and when you don't have real heavy infantry support weapons, having four normal guns shooting at loosely the same place is an average substitute. 80 SMGs? I want to see this.
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Sigma-X posted:80 SMGs? I want to see this. http://www.guns.com/2013/06/29/the-fire-hedgehog/ 
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El Estrago Bonito posted:It's actually a real thing, using linked turrets of infantry weapons sometimes makes sense. There was a linked version for Bi-planes that used Thompsons and an anti-infantry version the Russians used in WWII that mounted 80 PPSH-41 SMG's inside the bay of a bomber. They also show up in places like Libya where guys are making stuff in garages, and when you don't have real heavy infantry support weapons, having four normal guns shooting at loosely the same place is an average substitute. To be fair, the Soviet Union was a dumb thing that rolled around to awesome except it continued back to dumb.  I knew but totally forgot about the pepesha-bomber. I'm waiting to see a 40k conversion.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:31
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BULBASAUR posted:Exactly what the Dark Angels did: The space marine driving that thing can see like, above horizontal forward, and to his left and that's it. God help him if anything is slightly below him and ahead or to his right, he's never going to see it coming.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:37
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They never established how high those things go, so he might not need to see anything below. What immediately catches my eye is how the foward gunner is sitting on a thin piece of cardboard and a prayer, no way that's a well placed turret. I guess that's just GW bullshitry, doing a regular speeder with the regular gunner having an assault canon just wouldn't be enough. Also: we put a dude and plasma cannon in the back where the engine/anti gravity pad used to be, ugh, add four tiny plane engines to the sides! Really Pants posted:There's a different, slightly less terrible Space Marine plane that has those. Forgeworld! And there's a cure for what ails your small flying boxes: 
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Sep 24, 2015 04:35
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Would any of you hams want a chaos dwarf plastic dude? Just a single model to paint and enjoy the early 90's?
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Sep 24, 2015 06:18
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hooman posted:The space marine driving that thing can see like, above horizontal forward, and to his left and that's it. His faith in the Emperor is clearly stronger than yours.
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Sep 24, 2015 10:26
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Nice stupid large walker you're making there, friend. It would be a pity if someone made a better one. Tsk, tsk.   
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Sep 24, 2015 12:02
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You can't just drop those pictures and not tell us where it's from.
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Sep 24, 2015 12:10
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Slimnoid posted:You can't just drop those pictures and not tell us where it's from. Puppetswar.eu facebook. It's their "secret project"
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Sep 24, 2015 12:25
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Puppetswar e: gently caress
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KingFisher posted:Would any of you hams want a chaos dwarf plastic dude? Just a single model to paint and enjoy the early 90's? Haha, chaos dwarves were like the one army I really wanted as a kid, but GW had already priced me out of their flagship games. I played a little blood bowl and necromunda, but as a 12 year old saving up Christmas and birthday money, that's all I could afford to play and a good chunk of that was bought second-hand from other regulars at the store I think. There was no way in hell my parents would've shelled out enough for a battle box or whatever to get started, and I didn't have the self-discipline to save up from year to year. Once everything went under the umbrella of 'specialist games' and wasn't really supported anymore, both of those games gradually died off at my local store and almost all of the regulars moved to 40k only, which I had no models for. I still think about trying to pick up a mess of chaos dwarves secondhand though I guess I'd be more likely to play them in KoW or something at this point. I guess my lovely anecdote would've been more appropriate in the death pool thread, but whatever.
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hooman posted:The space marine driving that thing can see like, above horizontal forward, and to his left and that's it. TBH, he;s wearing a hypertech helmet, I always assumed that SM pilots had the feeds from hullmounted camera just piped directly into their eyes.
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JcDent posted:They never established how high those things go, so he might not need to see anything below. Chapterhouse Studios isn't shipping stuff anymore. They haven't posted to their Facebook in over a year and most people who've been putting in orders have had the orders canceled by Paypal. If you want to see some unspiration, look no further than Chapterhouse Studios.  Most of their poo poo looks like it was sculpted out of Play-Doh.
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