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stoutfish posted:everyone is pretending ron paul had a bigger lead than he actually did Not really I was talking about the Iowa caucuses in my post. Swap out Paul for Gingrich if it helps.
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Third World Reggin posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/647759368386121728 Trump owns.
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Joementum posted:Not really I was talking about the Iowa caucuses in my post. Swap out Paul for Gingrich if it helps. 
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Reminder that Michelle Bachmann's campaign was significantly more successful than Scott Walker's That depends on how you look at it. She kept going, even though it was hopeless, and left Congress after the campaign with few allies other than Steve King. Scott Walker is still governor who's endorsement will be highly sought.
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Guiliani's weakness was in his horrible strategy, ignoring all states until Florida and allowing his campaign to slow to zero momentum. Trump is currently leading in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
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Sinestro posted:On the issue of having there be life in the oceans still when I'm in my 50s, yeah, I am a single issue voter. So I agree not supporting yucca mountain is dumb as poo poo. But who are you going to vote for?
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Dahbadu posted:Bernie has a history of getting poo poo done. Here's a video with some examples: Nuclear is better for the environment, RIGHT NOW, if you don't support nuclear power you support more coal plants, or you are a dark green environmentalist.
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stoutfish posted:racists often believe that the majority of people share their views This does explain bernie posters.
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I'm not sure you can compare Trump to any candidates from the last two elections. He is more Herman Cain than he is Guliani. Guliani was not some rebel outsider latching onto an anti-elite sentiment. He was a politician that led the polls for a while and then crashed. Trump is something different. He is still going to crash, though, I'd assume. Also Nintendo Kid, your posting has been pretty good lately and I apologize for my dumb attack a while back. It was stupid ingroup/outgroup bullshit and I shouldn't have done it.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:i think two separate primary threads, one for (mocking the) repubs and one for the (dumb bickering between) dems, is the best solution to the current lovely thread crisis Sheng-ji Yang posted:ok this is now the Republican Presidential Primary thread. Joementum posted:That depends on how you look at it. She kept going, even though it was hopeless, and left Congress after the campaign with few allies other than Steve King. Scott Walker is still governor who's endorsement will be highly sought.
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fade5 posted:Thank you very much for Balkanizing the threads Sheng-ji Yang. (Seriously.) If the primary (likely) comes down to Bush v Rubio, endorsements like Walker become a lot more important. Edwards endorsement could've had a decent impact in 2008 but he waited until Obama was inevitable.
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Mitt Romney posted:If the primary (likely) comes down to Bush v Rubio, endorsements like Walker become a lot more important. Edwards endorsement could've had a decent impact in 2008 but he waited until Obama was inevitable. Yup! Also, I hear the guy has a Super PAC supporting him with a hundred million socked away.
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Speaking of money, in a few weeks we'll finally get to see Q3 financial reports from the campaigns. It might make it easier to figure out things like if Jeb!'s campaign really is suffering because all his money is going into Right to Rise rather than the campaign itself. (I'd seen reports that the actual Jeb Bush campaign is struggling financially because they can't use Right to Rise's 9 digit warchest to pay for mundane campaign expenses)
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Oh thank god the thread is finally focused again. I just come here to watch the GOP buttfuck itself into oblivion, so thanks a bunch 
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Patter Song posted:Speaking of money, in a few weeks we'll finally get to see Q3 financial reports from the campaigns. It might make it easier to figure out things like if Jeb!'s campaign really is suffering because all his money is going into Right to Rise rather than the campaign itself. (I'd seen reports that the actual Jeb Bush campaign is struggling financially because they can't use Right to Rise's 9 digit warchest to pay for mundane campaign expenses) Jeb! has recently cut staff and reduced salaries to avoid the fate that befell Walker, but he's still got the biggest organization of any candidate.
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Mitt Romney posted:If the primary (likely) comes down to Bush v Rubio, endorsements like Walker become a lot more important. Edwards endorsement could've had a decent impact in 2008 but he waited until Obama was inevitable. Joementum posted:Yup! Also, I hear the guy has a Super PAC supporting him with a hundred million socked away. Fake edit: Joementum posted:Jeb! has recently cut staff and reduced salaries to avoid the fate that befell Walker, but he's still got the biggest organization of any candidate. Montasque posted:Thank you!
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 http://ellentube.com/videos/0-wuvyg430/ Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Patter Song posted:Speaking of money, in a few weeks we'll finally get to see Q3 financial reports from the campaigns. It might make it easier to figure out things like if Jeb!'s campaign really is suffering because all his money is going into Right to Rise rather than the campaign itself. (I'd seen reports that the actual Jeb Bush campaign is struggling financially because they can't use Right to Rise's 9 digit warchest to pay for mundane campaign expenses) A genuine concern, considering that's what did Scott Walker in, but something tells me that while Bush probably has an oversized campaign the whole Bush network is too big and too heavily supported by the establishment to go down that way. A lot of discussion has been centered on whether these early polls really mean anything about what will happen in February, but I think people might be missing the important point that they can affect things in the here and now whose consequences will be felt six months down the line. If Walker had been polling in the top three he probably would've attracted more media attention, more small donors and it would've made going into debt for his campaign a more attractive choice - it doesn't help him if he was gong to have a surge a week out from Iowa if his performance in the present has destroyed his campaign. A cool-headed analysis of historical trends might suggest the smart thing to do is to play the long game, but there's an element of something like self-fulfilling prophecy at work with elections where the narrative can override the real events. It's part of why Trump's so effective, that he blares his own (often blatantly counterfactual) narrative at maximum volume until it starts to take hold. As such, what matters more than that cool-headed analysis is whether important decision-makers in the campaigns, in office, in business and in media share that level of awareness and discipline or whether they crack and get carried off on a populist wave. There are some obvious ways the campaign right now matters. There's no doubt the eventual nominee will have more than a few comments come back to haunt them, what with all the crazy rhetoric engaging with Trump has brought out. They're burning not-inconsiderable amount of money and resources against each other that might've otherwise gone into the general. Trump's also had a big impact on the tone and framing - accusations of being "low energy" will dog Jeb throughout the election, and at least for the primary his claim that Rubion has "the worst voting record" seems to be getting the odd bit of traction. I think we can safely predict a long hangover for the GOP if Trump finally drops out of the race as they survey the damage and realize what a terrible place he's left them in. Dolash fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Joementum posted:That depends on how you look at it. She kept going, even though it was hopeless, and left Congress after the campaign with few allies other than Steve King. Scott Walker is still governor who's endorsement will be highly sought. Really? He's a dimwitted looking college dropout buffoon who plummeted to less than nothing in the polls once Republican voters finally saw him speaking on stage like some soulless Zoloft zombie instead of just being told by Fox News that Scott "GOP Frontrunner" Walker was the next Reagan every day for years in advance. The Koch brothers probably invested millions in a candidate that was broken out of the box. His own state recalled him once already. Minnesota is a similar state but run by Democrats and is booming while everyone knows Wisconsin sucks. Scott Walker probably won't even be asked to endorse Goldline.com after he loses his next primary to some random blowhard Wisconsin business mogul billionaire with no political experience that President Trump endorses as "a really smart guy" a few times. Politico had an article a while back that a shadowy cabal of politically unaffiliated billionaires from multiple states all were so impressed with Donald's success that they've been meeting up with Master Trump himself to learn how they too could Make America Great Again. I have the feeling that a slopfaced union busting poo poo tier governor of a failed yet still economically salvageable state like Wisconsin won't make the cut when President Trump rebrands the GOP nationally in his image. Smoothrich fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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fade5 posted:I wonder if Trump is gonna go after Rubio on this, and if Rubio's gonna melt like everyone before him or actually stand against the wrath of Trump. 
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in a 2012 r debate all candidates except for one (huntsman maybe?) were in favor of letting the Free market regulate nuclear waste so if you expect a single point in the future with republicans in charge maybe be careful
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Brannock posted:I'm curious, can you name an example other than Fukushima, Three Mile, and Chernobyl without googling? Diablo canyon.
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Skwirl posted:nevermind Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Sai posted:in a 2012 r debate all candidates except for one (huntsman maybe?) were in favor of letting the Free market regulate nuclear waste so if you expect a single point in the future with republicans in charge maybe be careful You could literally dump that poo poo into the ocean and it's still quite unlikely that there would be significant ill effects. The worst case scenario for poor management of nuclear power is still better by far than the actual reality of fossil fuel burning (which, quick reminder, LITERALLY KILLS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE EVERY YEAR THROUGH AIR POLLUTION). Nice tie in to Republican politics though.
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Skwirl posted:Diablo canyon. I was trying to see if that guy had any actual learning on the topic or if he was just parroting popular societal narratives. For quite understandable reasons nuclear accidents draw a TON of media coverage and attention, especially after Chernobyl. Chernobyl itself was a perfect storm of communistic mismanagement and ineptitude. Many many other nuclear plants have operated safely and securely for decades. And, frankly? Even if we had a Chernobyl every couple decades, I think that would still be vastly more safe in total net cost and net loss of human life than the equivalent in coal power would cost us. edit: I am sorry for continuing the nuclear derail. I will stop. You know who's fuckin' nuclear? Donald Trump. Brannock fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Joementum posted:That depends on how you look at it. She kept going, even though it was hopeless, and left Congress after the campaign with few allies other than Steve King. Scott Walker is still governor who's endorsement will be highly sought. I'm sure it'll be highly sought, but I'm also sure his endorsement won't do poo poo. He dropped to 0% in the polls because the instant a national news outlet got their hands on him it was painfully clear he's an idiot who just says "sure" to things he doesn't understand. His approval ratings in Wisconsin have dropped like a rock from him bouncing around Iowa and bragging about all the poo poo he's done preparation to be POTUS after telling Wisconsin his actions were for the state alone. He also pissed off a poo poo load of rich white people in SE Wisconsin by rejecting their pet casino project, even after the Menominee tribe offered to pay for the Bucks new stadium if they could build their casino. Fair or not, all those pissed of rich white people are convinced his decision had everything to do with his POTUS run and nothing to do with his personal feelings or what's best for the state. I mean there might be like 400 people in the country who would be swayed by a Walker endorsement, but it's gonna be sought after with way more effort than it's worth - especially because he's just gonna endorse whoever Koch Industries tells him to.
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Has anybody posted the Coup's "Pimps" from like 1994 yet? Trump gets the last verse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrSk8Um2Sso I like how the other rich people hate him in the song, too.
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Brannock posted:And, frankly? Even if we had a Chernobyl every couple decades, I think that would still be vastly more safe in total net cost and net loss of human life than the equivalent in coal power would cost us. That is a huge understatement. If there was a Chernobyl equivalent disaster in the United States twice every year (2x~4000 deaths), coal would still cause more premature deaths annually (~10,000).
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Bryter posted:That is a huge understatement. If there was a Chernobyl equivalent disaster in the United States twice every year (2x~4000 deaths), coal would still cause more premature deaths annually (~10,000). Good point, I am an idiot. A GIANT PARSNIP fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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I am still an idiot.
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If Christie also completely bombs out, maybe the "I'll run my state into the ground as a resume builder for my POTUS run!" will stop being a motivator for potential governor candidates.
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i am an idiot who cannot read posts.
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e: nvm
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Quote of the day, "I love Christmas. You go to stores now, and it doesn’t say Christmas. It says 'Happy holidays.' All over! I say, where's Christmas? I tell my wife, 'Don’t go to those stores.' I want to see Christmas! Other people can have their holidays, but Christmas is Christmas. I want to see 'Merry Christmas.' Remember the expression 'Merry Christmas?' You don't see it. You're going to see it if I'm elected." ~ Donald Trump.
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Trump will change Christmas to the feast of Trump Invictus
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Lord of Pie posted:Trump will change Christmas to the feast of Trump Invictus Hmm, do I get a large, extra large, or yooge statue of Trump Optimus Maximus this year?
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