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bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

And yeah, Google seems like they're ceding the entire phone season to Apple this time around and it's weird.

Er, Google never completed with apple with Nexus devices.

I'm betting packaging concerns with the fingerprint sensor precludes wireless charging and a lot more people are going to use the sensor.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 13:31

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If the battery life is top-tier on either phone, and considering that USB-C is reversible, loosing qi charging might be OK. I mean, only having to plug in once a day and not having to play the find-the-right-direction game with the plug isn't life shattering.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 13:50

dont be mean to me: May 2, 2007; I'm interplanetary, bitch
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bull3964 posted:

Er, Google never completed with apple with Nexus devices.

Not directly, but when you share a market with a similar thing, and people have very little reason to acquire and utilize at once more than one of the thing you both are, you're in competition with the similar thing whether you wish to be or not.

bull3964 posted:

I'm betting packaging concerns with the fingerprint sensor precludes wireless charging and a lot more people are going to use the sensor.

Well that and it's hard to imagine what kind of software would need to be developed specifically toward a wireless charging system if the charging system was designed at all competently. That is, the charging system is just a dumb power input (like AC, contrast with a potentially smart power input like USB), so unless you're a driver or hardware profiler developer you don't actually need to write software for it. And since userland software development is ostensibly the Nexus's point, regardless of the feelings of the Android community, Google didn't see the need to include it.

dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Sep 29, 2015

# ? Sep 29, 2015 13:54

Bhodi: Dec 9, 2007; Oh, it's just a cat.; Pillbug

No qi charging, no sale. I am never going back to wires.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:01

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

Well that and it's hard to imagine what kind of software would need to be developed specifically toward a wireless charging system if the charging system was designed at all competently. That is, the charging system is just a dumb power input (like AC, contrast with a potentially smart power input like USB), so unless you're a driver or hardware profiler developer you don't actually need to write software for it. And since userland software development is ostensibly the Nexus's point, regardless of the feelings of the Android community, Google didn't see the need to include it.

Who's talking about software?

The fingerprint sensor takes physical space on the back of the device and who know's what components are necessary under it until the thing is torn apart. Qi coil probably just wasn't possible or likely not possible in a way that wouldn't require the phone to be placed very lopsided on the charger.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:04

dont be mean to me: May 2, 2007; I'm interplanetary, bitch
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bull3964 posted:

Who's talking about software?

Anybody talking about computers. To your intended deflection - presumably 'who's talking about Android software development' - anybody talking about Nexuses.

Google's intent for the Nexus line is that they be Android development test-beds. That they usually make for pretty drat good Android phones and tablets for regular users is incidental.

If they thought people would be developing Qi-specific software they'd have found a way to make it fit and drat the consequences.

v v v Camera2 API :eng101:

dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 29, 2015

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:08

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Google hasn't really intended Nexus device's primary use case to be software testbeds for quite awhile (indeed, they've created their own internal test beds when it has suited them, see Tango.) Otherwise, they really wouldn't give a poo poo about doing things like improving camera hardware.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:17

Wax Dynasty: Jan 1, 2013; This postseason, I've really enjoyed bringing back the three-inning save.; Hell Gem

ThermoPhysical posted:

Looks like Android Pay completely locks up if you don't have a valid credit/debit card.

My bank switched over to a chip card and the grandfathered card no longer works. Now, since I don't have a card, Android Pay completely locks me out of the multiple loyalty cards I already had stored in just because I can't add my other card.

Welp.

Get KeyRing, it's a dedicated rewards card replacement app and is well supported. It has all the same features Wallet had for reward cards, plus more, including a useful widget.

Whizbang posted:

How is the leather back on the Moto X Pure Edition?

I like it, and it seems high quality. So far I haven't noticed any stains or tears, but the leather is quite thin. This means it has no suppleness or give like most leather and it therefore feels a little plastic-y. It's also textured like the plastic, which helps with grip. If you like the look of leather it's worth the $25, but if you're going more for the feel you may be disappointed.

Wax Dynasty fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Sep 29, 2015

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:30

Alarbus: Mar 31, 2010

LastInLine posted:

Given Google's recommitment to support for Nexus devices, the N6 will be supported for another 18-24 months.

Speaking of, where is the best place to buy a new N6?

It's currently $350 on Amazon - http://smile.amazon.com/Motorola-Unlocked-Cellphone-Midnight-Warranty/dp/B00R1984DI

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:35

The Merkinman: Apr 22, 2007; I sell only quality merkins. What is a merkin you ask? Why, it's a wig for your genitals!

bull3964 posted:

Google hasn't really intended Nexus device's primary use case to be software testbeds for quite awhile (indeed, they've created their own internal test beds when it has suited them, see Tango.) Otherwise, they really wouldn't give a poo poo about doing things like improving camera hardware.

If it's not a testbed, and not flagship (given lack of OIS, Qi, etc), then what is the point of a Nexus device?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:36

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE: Aug 1, 2004; whoa, what just happened here?; College Slice

The Merkinman posted:

If it's not a testbed, and not flagship (given lack of OIS, Qi, etc), then what is the point of a Nexus device?

We'll find out!

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:41

Super Dude: Jan 23, 2005; Do the Jew

The Merkinman posted:

If it's not a testbed, and not flagship (given lack of OIS, Qi, etc), then what is the point of a Nexus device?

It's a reasonably priced mid-tier phone with good support.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:42

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

bull3964 posted:

Who's talking about software?

The fingerprint sensor takes physical space on the back of the device and who know's what components are necessary under it until the thing is torn apart. Qi coil probably just wasn't possible or likely not possible in a way that wouldn't require the phone to be placed very lopsided on the charger.

Probably more a matter of price. Pre-N6 the Nexus line was quite affordable, and was probably built to a price. To include Qi and the finger print sensor probably put it a little out of their price target.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:51

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bull3964 posted:

Google hasn't really intended Nexus device's primary use case to be software testbeds for quite awhile (indeed, they've created their own internal test beds when it has suited them, see Tango.) Otherwise, they really wouldn't give a poo poo about doing things like improving camera hardware.

Tango is a separate Google project, it's not the Android team. And why wouldn't they care about improving the camera? They're literally used as reference devices for the platform, you need to be able to test the stuff you're developing, and that includes advances in the Camera API. And it's not like they're best in class or anything

Kinda weird that none of the new ones have an SD slot, for that reason

# ? Sep 29, 2015 14:52

FogHelmut: Dec 18, 2003

So reasonable 4.7" screens are gone forever, right?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 15:51

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

FogHelmut posted:

So reasonable 4.7" screens are gone forever, right?

Moto G is a little smaller, but it should do it.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 15:52

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

The Merkinman posted:

If it's not a testbed, and not flagship (given lack of OIS, Qi, etc), then what is the point of a Nexus device?

An affordable stock android phone I guess

But at this point I can't imagine anyone choosing one of those 2 nexuses over the Pure/Style.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 15:53

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

Syrinxx posted:

An affordable stock android phone I guess

But at this point I can't imagine anyone choosing one of those 2 nexuses over the Pure/Style.

I'd get the N5X just for the update situation.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 15:58

ThermoPhysical: Dec 26, 2007

Wax Dynasty posted:

Get KeyRing, it's a dedicated rewards card replacement app and is well supported. It has all the same features Wallet had for reward cards, plus more, including a useful widget.

Thank you!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/29/full-nexus-6p-press-release-with-pricing-for-various-sizes-in-several-countries-leaked/

Pricing for the Nexus 6P

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:00

Dr. Video Games 0050: Nov 28, 2007

With the purchase of my new phone I got 2 years of 100GB of Drive storage. Can I change my plan of unlimited photos to the one where its higher resolution and it will make those changes to my previous photos, or only on photos going forwards?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:02

SB35: Jul 6, 2007; Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Event starts in an hour, is there an event thread?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:03

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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:

I'd get the N5X just for the update situation.

The big problem is carrier fuckery more than anything, the Pure will still get updates wayyyy before LG/Samsung/HTC/whatever.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:06

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# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:09

Super Dude: Jan 23, 2005; Do the Jew

Protocol7 posted:

The big problem is carrier fuckery more than anything, the Pure will still get updates wayyyy before LG/Samsung/HTC/whatever.

Nexus updates can be manually pushed to devices without any carrier interaction.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:09

Red Warrior: Jul 23, 2002; Is about to die!

I dunno a whole bunch of other devices got 5.1 before the MotoX 2014 did this time around.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:12

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Red Warrior posted:

I dunno a whole bunch of other devices got 5.1 before the MotoX 2014 did this time around.

Yep and Stagefright. Getting beat by Samsung to updates despite being near stock is pretty drat embarrassing. And the 2013 X Lollipop update was terrible. If you're buying a Moto for quick and good updates, all you really have to base that on is how things used to be like two years ago

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:16

nimper: Jun 19, 2003; livin' in a hopium den

FogHelmut posted:

So reasonable 4.7" screens are gone forever, right?

Are we on the right day for screenchat?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:19

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; ...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. �Bertrand Russell

SB35 posted:

Event starts in an hour, is there an event thread?

We usually make this the event thread and then soon after just make a new thread. I don't really care one way or the other, though. Does anyone think a separate event thread is better?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:20

MagusDraco: Nov 11, 2011; even speedwagon was trolled

Eh they are supposedly talking about a couple new chromecasts too so it's not just going to be phones and marshmallow.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:22

ThermoPhysical: Dec 26, 2007

Thermopyle posted:

We usually make this the event thread and then soon after just make a new thread. I don't really care one way or the other, though. Does anyone think a separate event thread is better?

I think the idea of using the old thread one last time as the event thread and just making a new thread when a new Nexus device comes out works fine.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:22

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

HTC picked a sweet time to announce a new phone no one cares about
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/158759/htc-introduces-new-one-m9-with-21mp-camera-laser-af-and-ois.html

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:25

SB35: Jul 6, 2007; Move along folks, nothing to see here.

ThermoPhysical posted:

I think the idea of using the old thread one last time as the event thread and just making a new thread when a new Nexus device comes out works fine.

Cool. I just wanna make sure I'm shitposting in the right place.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:27

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Syrinxx posted:

An affordable stock android phone I guess

But at this point I can't imagine anyone choosing one of those 2 nexuses over the Pure/Style.

I'm thinking about getting a 5x because it's smaller than the pure, it comes with M, at this point I don't trust moto to stay on top of updates, I like the appearance more, and I don't give a gently caress about qi. v :geno:

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:28

ulvir: Jan 2, 2005

any idea where we can watch a live stream of the event?

e: seems like google just links to their youtube channel. just gotta F5 that in a few I guess

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:44

ilkhan: Oct 7, 2004; I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Link to the YouTube stream for this thing?

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:49

nimper: Jun 19, 2003; livin' in a hopium den

ilkhan posted:

Link to the YouTube stream for this thing?

https://www.youtube.com/google/live

nimper fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Sep 29, 2015

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:51

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; ...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. �Bertrand Russell

ilkhan posted:

Link to the YouTube stream for this thing?

I'll put it in the OP when it's available.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:51

Desk Lamp: Jun 30, 2014

WhyteRyce posted:

Yep and Stagefright. Getting beat by Samsung to updates despite being near stock is pretty drat embarrassing. And the 2013 X Lollipop update was terrible. If you're buying a Moto for quick and good updates, all you really have to base that on is how things used to be like two years ago

Samsung along with other manufacturers have gotten much better at updating their phones now that Google releases preview builds long before the final version. Motorola's advantage was being part of Google which is no longer the case so the playing field has evened out.

If your primary concern with an Android phone is getting the update as quick as possible then Nexus is your best bet. If you want different features but are worried about long term support Samsung and Motorola are both solid choices.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:54

Red Warrior: Jul 23, 2002; Is about to die!

Live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-LEG0T_4c

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nimper posted:

https://www.youtube.com/google/live

Now I can furiously refresh the store on my other monitor. Take my money damnit.

# ? Sep 29, 2015 16:57

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