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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Dolphins fans: Do you lay any of the blame on your man Tannehill? Not really. We have no running game, horrible pass protection and a terrible defense. He's being asked to win games almost single-handedly and it's not really fair to blame him.
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pasaluki posted:Lol they are sure hemming an hawing trying to defend a model that obviously is broken. quote:The other three touchdowns, however, were passes thrown short of the end zone on speed outs to Randall Cobb. Were they bad throws? No, they were expected throws with the credit going to Cobb for fighting through contact or defeating the coverage with speed to the edge. That makes these zero-graded throws This is like the type of thing you say when you're homer-ing out to talk about why a rival HOF'er is a system quarterback.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:12
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Burger Trench posted:This is like the type of thing you say when you're homer-ing out to talk about why a rival HOF'er is a system quarterback. but seriously, tom brady is a system quarterback
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Sep 29, 2015 15:15
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Ehud posted:but seriously, tom brady is a system quarterback A trap is set... will any  take the bait?
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Sep 29, 2015 15:18
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Tommy is my QB and I love him.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:18
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Ehud posted:but seriously, tom brady is a system quarterback I don't know if playing the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins twice a year your entire career counts as a "system."
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Sep 29, 2015 15:19
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Burger Trench posted:This is like the type of thing you say when you're homer-ing out to talk about why a rival HOF'er is a system quarterback. Why does only one player get credit for it though?
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Sep 29, 2015 15:21
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korrandark posted:Why does only one player get credit for it though? Quarterbacks aren't the best, it's a team effort! But seriously, they are the best.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:22
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Ehud posted:Not really. We have no running game, horrible pass protection and a terrible defense. He's being asked to win games almost single-handedly and it's not really fair to blame him.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:22
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Ozu posted:What happened to Lamar Miller? He was pegged by a lot of guys to be a breakout superstar. Is it strictly a function of the line or the coaching staff just not giving him the ball? 13 touches a game seems stupidly low for a #1 RB who isn't injured. He's bursting when he has even the slightest hint of a hole. But yeah, our line is seriously that bad.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:26
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Ozu posted:What happened to Lamar Miller? He was pegged by a lot of guys to be a breakout superstar. Is it strictly a function of the line or the coaching staff just not giving him the ball? 13 touches a game seems stupidly low for a #1 RB who isn't injured. Philbin hates him and is a bad coach basically.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Cutting him next year, even Post June 1, nets us like 26M in dead money. Or we can pay him 17M in cap space. May as well just keep him on the roster and see if we can trade him possibly. Resigning Daniel would be priority while we continue to bumble through attempting to draft a QB. If we plan to pay our other guys and resign them with a couple creative bonus structures, we could be alright. I wonder who would even be interested in trading. That's a big toxic contract to take on. Chicago wouldn't, Arizona wouldn't, Washington would be embarrassed to even consider it but maybe?
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Sep 29, 2015 15:30
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korrandark posted:Why does only one player get credit for it though? I agree, we should start tracking WR stats, too.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:33
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When an interception is the fault of a receiver they should charge it to the WR instead of the QB imo
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Sep 29, 2015 15:36
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:When an interception is the fault of a receiver they should charge it to the WR instead of the QB imo Yes
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Sep 29, 2015 15:37
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God, which Dolphin had a pass hit his hands, cradle into his chest then just launch itself out of the guy's arms right to a defender on Sunday? That was a pretty good example of a WR int.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:38
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Parmesan Basil posted:I wonder who would even be interested in trading. That's a big toxic contract to take on. Chicago wouldn't, Arizona wouldn't, Washington would be embarrassed to even consider it but maybe? Well, the 2016 hit for a receiving team would be $14.2M, 2017 is $13.3M, and 2018 would be $17M. So yeah... If we traded him this offseason we would end up with a little over $10M in accelerated bonus cap hit. There's no good answer here.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:42
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The only good advanced football stat is the one that tracks number of bad throws that could / should be intercepted compared to throws that are good but the receiver bounces the ball 4 feet into the arms of the waiting FS. Also average yards before contact.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:43
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Kalli posted:God, which Dolphin had a pass hit his hands, cradle into his chest then just launch itself out of the guy's arms right to a defender on Sunday? Jarvis Landry, of all people.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:48
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Lard on Fork posted:Aaron Rodgers: not so good it seems! Will gladly trade a first and third for Green Bay's slightly below average QB
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Sep 29, 2015 15:57
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FizFashizzle posted:Just OMG that is so CUTE how he does that. Look at that crazy facial hair too!
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Sep 29, 2015 16:00
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Intruder posted:Will gladly trade a first and third for Green Bay's slightly below average QB Why trade for a below average QB when you can get one Christian Hackenburg in the first round next year?
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Sep 29, 2015 16:01
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Rodgers' hard count has the added bonus of loving up the rhythm of pass rushers who try to key on the snap count. He's making those guys adjust to key on the actual snap of the ball, which in turn gets him a slight edge in time to throw.
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Parmesan Basil posted:hell even Hackenburg You don't want Christian Hackenburg. Plus I want him to play for Washington. It would be funnier. In reality I think Reid would like him, but you don't want him to start for your team.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:08
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Rodgers' hard count has the added bonus of loving up the rhythm of pass rushers who try to key on the snap count. He's making those guys adjust to key on the actual snap of the ball, which in turn gets him a slight edge in time to throw. I think it's the other way around - slowing the pass rush is the primary purpose of a hard count, getting the occasional free play is lagniappe.
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Rodgers' hard count has the added bonus of loving up the rhythm of pass rushers who try to key on the snap count. He's making those guys adjust to key on the actual snap of the ball, which in turn gets him a slight edge in time to throw. One of these days a defender isn't going to stop playing and is going to blast Rodgers for that if the refs don't immediately blow the play dead. Last night the tackle moved early and the play should have been blown dead, and the rusher stopped because he was expecting it. If the refs aren't going to call the early movement or unabated to the quarterback and blow the play dead, I'd coach my guys that if you jump early, you still run as hard as you can at Rodgers and hit him unless the refs stop you.
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Codependent Poster posted:One of these days a defender isn't going to stop playing and is going to blast Rodgers for that if the refs don't immediately blow the play dead. Last night the tackle moved early and the play should have been blown dead, and the rusher stopped because he was expecting it. If the refs aren't going to call the early movement or unabated to the quarterback and blow the play dead, I'd coach my guys that if you jump early, you still run as hard as you can at Rodgers and hit him unless the refs stop you. Maybe they already are? Supposedly teams are coaching the DBs to keep covering in that scenario and clearly that isn't working consistently.
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Codependent Poster posted:One of these days a defender isn't going to stop playing and is going to blast Rodgers for that if the refs don't immediately blow the play dead. Last night the tackle moved early and the play should have been blown dead, and the rusher stopped because he was expecting it. If the refs aren't going to call the early movement or unabated to the quarterback and blow the play dead, I'd coach my guys that if you jump early, you still run as hard as you can at Rodgers and hit him unless the refs stop you. Wasn't it Aaron Rodgers a few years back that faked going out of bounds to get the defenders to let up and then got a few extra yards out of it, only to get lit the gently caress up the next time he tried that fake-out?
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Blotto Skorzany posted:Maybe they already are? Supposedly teams are coaching the DBs to keep covering in that scenario and clearly that isn't working consistently. The rusher last night just plain stopped. I think you just have to tell anyone who's rushing that if they're drawn off, you just keep going until you hear a whistle. Don't try to get back onsides or assume they'll blow the play dead, just keep going.
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DrKennethNoisewater posted:Wasn't it Aaron Rodgers a few years back that faked going out of bounds to get the defenders to let up and then got a few extra yards out of it, only to get lit the gently caress up the next time he tried that fake-out? That might have been kaepernick.
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Flikken posted:Yup, I can't Remember the last time a NFC WEST QB threw 4 picks in one game, shameful, anytime that happens that QB should be cut immediately and definitely not be given an extension or anything. That game was a test from God, and He passed. 1-0
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Sep 29, 2015 16:24
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Oh cool I just remembered the 62 games without a TD in the two minute drill stat for KC. Sweet. Awesome.
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DrKennethNoisewater posted:Wasn't it Aaron Rodgers a few years back that faked going out of bounds to get the defenders to let up and then got a few extra yards out of it, only to get lit the gently caress up the next time he tried that fake-out? Yes it was against the Panthers.
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Grittybeard posted:Oh cool I just remembered the 62 games without a TD in the two minute drill stat for KC. We may have ended one embarrassing streak last night, but there's plenty of franchise failure to go around!
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Ozu posted:What happened to Lamar Miller? He was pegged by a lot of guys to be a breakout superstar. Is it strictly a function of the line or the coaching staff just not giving him the ball? 13 touches a game seems stupidly low for a #1 RB who isn't injured. AAA DOLFAN posted:He's bursting when he has even the slightest hint of a hole. But yeah, our line is seriously that bad. Jota posted:Philbin hates him and is a bad coach basically. Pretty much these things. The same offensive line that will turn Tannehill into a cripple can't run block to save it's life right now. Add onto that Philbin would rather give carries to practice squad players than Miller for whatever bizarre reason he has in his befuddled looking head and it's just all sadness. Miller would do real well on a team with actual run blocking. Maybe he should ask for a trade to the Cowboys their running backs are garbage.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:35
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PrinceRandom posted:Remove yac from QB passing yards and remove yards in the air from wide receiver's yards
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Alaois posted:and remove yards in the air from wide receiver's yards Yep
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Remove return yards from all-purpose yards because come on now, really
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