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Nail Rat posted:Remove return yards from all-purpose yards because come on now, really The stat you're looking for already exists though? Yards from Scrimmage?
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There should be an official stat for good blocking. Like if you just totally take a dude and take him out of the play so badly the ball carrier doesn't have to adjust their route at all, that should be a Steamroll or Pushover or Big Boy or something. Joe Thomas had 12 big boys in this game is a thing analysts should be saying. Everyone was getting into the action, even Ted Ginn Jr. had a big boy on a downfield run!
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Sep 29, 2015 16:52
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No Butt Stuff posted:remove all stats. Now we're getting somewhere
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Sep 29, 2015 16:56
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There's a lot of fans calling for Wake to be traded to Atlanta for a 3rd. It's a really smart move for both teams but boy howdy I'm not ready to declare this season lost until Philbin is fired
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Sep 29, 2015 16:57
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No Butt Stuff posted:remove all stats. Does he have "the look" Y/N
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Nail Rat posted:Does he have "the look" Y/N
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Sep 29, 2015 16:59
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Lord of Boners posted:We may have ended one embarrassing streak last night, but there's plenty of franchise failure to go around! On this note, that 1-32-1 stat for Alex Smith when he trails by 14 at any point in a game... Obviously no one will have a good record in games they're down 14 but you'd hope for more than 1 win. Anyway, that 1 win? Against Andy Reid in 2011. Awesome.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:01
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Grittybeard posted:On this note, that 1-32-1 stat for Alex Smith when he trails by 14 at any point in a game... Obviously no one will have a good record in games they're down 14 but you'd hope for more than 1 win. Anyway, that 1 win? Against Andy Reid in 2011.
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Grittybeard posted:On this note, that 1-32-1 stat for Alex Smith when he trails by 14 at any point in a game... Obviously no one will have a good record in games they're down 14 but you'd hope for more than 1 win. Anyway, that 1 win? Against Andy Reid in 2011. hmm, I wonder if you can look this up for other QB's. Because while that's awful, I bet it's pretty awful for just about every average QB, like that Stafford vs winning teams on the road thing.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:09
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quote:The Packers had a seven-minute time of possession advantage, and it helped keep the defense fresh. By the way, the defense held the Chiefs to seven possessions of three plays or fewer through three quarters of the game. In his postgame interview, Rodgers said the Chiefs were loaded up to stop the run, which left man coverage across the board, and the Packers receivers won their one-on-ones. There’s your analysis of what happened. Imagine, playing run against Rodgers. That’s what Eddie Lacy has done for this team. quote:Coach McCarthy says they’re going to improve the running game, and the Packers respond with a running game that’s causing teams to focus on stopping the run. Coach McCarthy says the defense will be improved, and now it’s dominating. Coach McCarthy said special teams will be improved, and they are. Coach McCarthy says he wants a fast start, and the Packers are 3-0 and playing as well as any team in the league. I wish Coach McCarthy would say on my deathbed I will achieve total consciousness. quote:I don’t think there’s anyone who doesn’t truly appreciate Rodgers’ greatness. I’ve been covering football for 44 years and I’ve never seen a better quarterback. He sees more of the field than any quarterback I’ve ever watched. He was reading the Chiefs’ sideline last night. He saw their sub packages getting ready to come into the game and he knew what the Chiefs were going to do before they did it, and he was doing all of that as he was listening to his sideline talk to him in his helmet communicator. I think he’s the most intelligent quarterback that’s ever played the game.
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Nail Rat posted:Does he have "the look" Y/N Would this take "Tasty like a raindrop" into account?
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Blotto Skorzany posted:Maybe they already are? Supposedly teams are coaching the DBs to keep covering in that scenario and clearly that isn't working consistently. James jones was commuting opi all night. In that scenario if you're a wr you just push the gently caress off because at worst its offsetting penalties and refs don't call it anyway.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:15
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Kalli posted:hmm, I wonder if you can look this up for other QB's. Yeah I wouldn't expect anyone to really look good in something like that, what might stand out the most if we were able to get a list like this for everyone is he's managed to play more than two full seasons worth of games where that happened. I'd like to see that for everyone too if anyone can figure out how to look it up.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:21
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FizFashizzle posted:James jones was commuting opi all night. On this note start calling OPI on rub routes and WR screens. You shouldn't be able to block a defender playing the ball while the ball is in the air. Edit: With the obvious exception of the d line attempting to knock down a pass.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:23
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Kalli posted:There should be an official stat for good blocking. Wasn't the term "pancake" invented because of how thoroughly Orlando Pace owned defenders.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:24
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WHOOPS posted:Wasn't the term "pancake" invented because of how thoroughly Orlando Pace owned defenders. I have no clue as to how true this is but this site claims it started at Pitt in the '80s. quote:The term was first used by the Pittsburgh Panthers to describe All-America offensive tackle Bill Fralic's blocking prowess in 1983 and '84. As Fralic's propensity for knocking opponents onto their back became known throughout the college football world, Pittsburgh's coaching staff counted the number of times Fralic registered these type of blocks in a given game. The Pittsburgh media relations department labeled these blocks as "pancakes" and the term stuck. They go on to mention Pace at Ohio State later, I guess OSU's media department sent Heisman voters magnetic pancakes for him. e: Pace's Heisman video. I only cringed a little bit. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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Sep 29, 2015 17:29
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Grittybeard posted:e: Pace's Heisman video. I only cringed a little bit. HOW IS THIS MAN NOT IN THE HALL OF FAME?!
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OxySnake posted:On this note start calling OPI on rub routes and WR screens. You shouldn't be able to block a defender playing the ball while the ball is in the air.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:00
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NC-17 posted:Yes it was against the Panthers. God's work. If a player is going to exploit a rule created for their safety light em up. Refs should be able to negate yards gained after a player pulls something like that.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:09
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Even better it was peppers. Even BETTER they were waltzing down the field for the go ahead touchdown at the end of the fourth quarter (because John fox) and Aaron was so clearly concussed they had to run it three times inside the fifteen. They eventually settled for a FG and never got the ball back.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:13
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Dolphins fans: Do you lay any of the blame on your man Tannehill? Yes. Not all of it but enough. I'm sick of the 3 yard ins and 4 yard slants. The guy isn't a quality level starting QB. Hand him a headset and clipboard and tell me he doesn't look right at home.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:14
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FizFashizzle posted:Even better it was peppers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIjXmK1YlEU
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PantsFreeZone posted:Yes. Not all of it but enough. I'm sick of the 3 yard ins and 4 yard slants. The guy isn't a quality level starting QB. Hand him a headset and clipboard and tell me he doesn't look right at home. If that O-line wasn't trying to murder him and if Philbin called better plays to help the offense get in rhythm, he'd be Wild Card Playoff material. ihatevinniemac 6 years ago in reply to Frank Fleischhacker Get penalty yards when his own teammates touch him? LOL, you clearly don't know football. Have fun with your new clunker, you're got Favre all right, and you're going to know exactly.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:18
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MacheteZombie posted:If that O-line wasn't trying to murder him and if Philbin called better plays to help the offense get in rhythm, he'd be Wild Card Playoff material. Here's the thing. The Oline has been dogshit for years. Everyone knows this, including I assume Lazor and Tannehill. Where are the rollouts? What happened to the read option pass? Did you know Tannehill was a WR in college? Why can't he scramble? I dunno. I guess I just watch him staring at an 8 man front and then running Lamar Miller right into it and I don't know who to cut into tiny pieces. When Tannehill gets Landry killed on one of these 2 yard outs, that's when I'm going to demand a new QB.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:There's a lot of fans calling for Wake to be traded to Atlanta for a 3rd. It's a really smart move for both teams but boy howdy I'm not ready to declare this season lost until Philbin is fired For a 3rd? WTF? Is he done, or something? I thought he was the truth.
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PantsFreeZone posted:Here's the thing. The Oline has been dogshit for years. Everyone knows this, including I assume Lazor and Tannehill. Where are the rollouts? What happened to the read option pass? Did you know Tannehill was a WR in college? Why can't he scramble? A lot of this I put on the OC and HC. They are clearly game planning like they have a stand up pocket thrower with a good o-line. Why? Tannehill isn't talented enough to A-Rod out of situations, or to read defenses Peyton style. While I'm sure he makes a few calls/adjustments at the line, I'm pretty sure almost everything is dictated to him from the side line. I think he has the arm and accuracy to get the right team to a Wildcard Spot, it's clearly not this Dolphins team.
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PantsFreeZone posted:Yes. Not all of it but enough. I'm sick of the 3 yard ins and 4 yard slants. The guy isn't a quality level starting QB. Hand him a headset and clipboard and tell me he doesn't look right at home. I know it's problematic to generalize an entire fanbase's sentiments from an isolated post or two, but holy crap this is quite a sea change for Dolfans' opinion on Tannehill.
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Burger Trench posted:I know it's problematic to generalize an entire fanbase's sentiments from an isolated post or two, but holy crap this is quite a sea change for Dolfans' opinion on Tannehill. no it's just me, I'm alone on the hill
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Sep 29, 2015 18:26
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Lard on Fork posted:Aaron Rodgers: not so good it seems! Sounds legit.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:27
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Burger Trench posted:I know it's problematic to generalize an entire fanbase's sentiments from an isolated post or two, but holy crap this is quite a sea change for Dolfans' opinion on Tannehill. Yeah, I don't feel like this at all I think PFZ is pretty much the only Dolphins fan who wants to move on from Tannehill Pretty sure he was against the extension, so he's been consistent.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:28
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Chilichimp posted:For a 3rd? WTF? Wake isn't worth more than a 3rd I'd imagine
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Sep 29, 2015 18:29
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Ehud posted:Yeah, I don't feel like this at all I'm going on PFZ and my IRL Dolphins friend, who also says Matt Moore is the most hated man in Miami sports.
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JT Jag posted:So just to clarify, Aaron Rodgers throws for 333, 5 TD, one dropped INT and one fumble that didn't actually happen and he gets a -.8 PFF score. Meanwhile, Carson Palmer throws for 311, 2 TD, 1 caught INT and 1 real fumble and gets a +6.2. Andy Dalton had 383, 4 total TD, one fumble returned for a touchdown, and one interception in the endzone which cost the Bengals points and got a +5.8.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:32
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Ehud posted:Yeah, I don't feel like this at all I don't think this was posted: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2571526-miami-dolphins-are-being-held-back-by-joe-philbin-poor-coaching It's from before this weekend's game where one of the FO contributors basically lays out that the coaching in Miami is dreadful . little things, like not giving Miller the ball on first down, or this:  Gee, think he should throw a quick out to the flat?
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JT Jag posted:So just to clarify, Aaron Rodgers throws for 333, 5 TD, one dropped INT and one fumble that didn't actually happen and he gets a -.8 PFF score. Meanwhile, Carson Palmer throws for 311, 2 TD, 1 caught INT and 1 real fumble and gets a +6.2. Their justification is that his plays weren't REALLY that good for subjective reasons, but at they same time they also insist they have no interest in intangibles. So yeah.
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JT Jag posted:So just to clarify, Aaron Rodgers throws for 333, 5 TD, one dropped INT and one fumble that didn't actually happen and he gets a -.8 PFF score. Meanwhile, Carson Palmer throws for 311, 2 TD, 1 caught INT and 1 real fumble and gets a +6.2. It's really weird that TFF knows advanced NFL stats are garbage and yet I still see tons of PFF stuff posted.
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nerve posted:It's really weird that TFF knows advanced NFL stats are garbage and yet I still see tons of PFF stuff posted. It's still the best we have, heh.
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Sep 29, 2015 18:35
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Burger Trench posted:It's still the best we have, heh.
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nerve posted:It's really weird that TFF knows advanced NFL stats are garbage and yet I still see tons of PFF stuff posted. They are good for some positions, but bad for a lot of the marquee positions like TE, QB, etc.
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