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dogstile posted:Why is being an rear end in a top hat in a game about being an rear end in a top hat a bad thing? See. You can be an rear end in a top hat to anyone else, but if you're an rear end in a top hat to ME then what the gently caress man!
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dogstile posted:Why is being an rear end in a top hat in a game about being an rear end in a top hat a bad thing? If you don't see a problem on being an rear end in a top hat unnecessarily than yeah, your actions are to be expected. I`m just not a fan of being an rear end in a top hat.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:16 |
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Brassherald posted:Have gotten a pm about adding officers to the league to add on. If this is something people would like to expedite the process, I'm fine with it, so let me know if you want to volunteer to be an officer. I'll do it, I'm on a lot at night, and watch the IRC.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:18 |
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Sorry for being s killjoy that dude is just farming reactions for the Griefing thread so maybe think about just ignoring him if you don't agree Foul if you want, I'm not about that life personally but if you just foul everybody all day during goon on goon action you will pretty quickly run out of people who will play you.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:21 |
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GNU Order posted:Sorry for being s killjoy that dude is just farming reactions for the Griefing thread so maybe think about just ignoring him if you don't agree hah, I only posted to the griefing thread after people flipped their poo poo at me stomping on a pubbie nobody
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:24 |
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dogstile posted:hah, I only posted to the griefing thread after people flipped their poo poo at me stomping on a pubbie nobody Sure but I figured they should know there were people making fun of their overreactions I almost did the same thing when I posted about blowing up pubbies with a minmaxed, farmed clawpomb murder squad and a couple people called me a cheater and one of them said I must be popular with the ladies
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Orv posted:Skaven the last few games against dwarf, chaos and an orc, which I guess is a particularly poor combo. Hard to break a cage when half your team is out. Do you still elf screen with skaven, they seem to have a lot of problems taking the ball without skills. Without a specialized cage breaker you pretty much can't. What you can do is force the other guy to score by nibbling at the back of the cage and blocking elsewhere while he has 5 players tied up. Once you get some skills gutter runners can pull the same wardancer stripball/wrestle bullshit. With AG 4 you're dodging into 3 TZs on a 5+ with a reroll, which is slightly over 50% chance of success. Leap, two head, or agi 5 all improve this dramatically. If you're a funhaver a rat ogre can be used to break open a corner and stand next to the ball carrier alongside a couple other rats. Or you can get break tackle into the cage on a 4+ and laugh your head off when it actually works.
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GNU Order posted:I almost did the same thing when I posted about blowing up pubbies with a minmaxed, farmed clawpomb murder squad and a couple people called me a cheater and one of them said I must be popular with the ladies
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Coolguye posted:shows what they know i drop so many panties with my chaos murderer team you don't even know it's just pussy all night all day erry week There is nothing hotter than piling on some bozo who thought he could step with this
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:38 |
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Wife went to yoga, so I got two blackbox games in. Lizards lost to a pretty scary chaos dwarf team, with the standard loss of 3 skinks in the first 5 turns. He'd scored 2 in the first half, so when I got the ball near his endzone safely at H2T6, I brought a saurus down to try to get the touchdown. Hand-off fails, pickup fails, game over. "Why are you trying to stall when you're losing?" Sigh. Then me orcs beat an Underworld team 120TV> than us. Didn't even use the card (put one player prone) or bomb-thrower star player all game. Got MVP on a blorc and scored a TD with another, so they both got Block after the game, and the team is beginning to mature into shape. Love this game. Getting fouled on turn 16 pisses me off, but I like having all my feelings.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:45 |
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ProZocK posted:Yeah, I misspoke, Just did some testing with a friend, and it didn't help. Guess it was even more bullshit than I though I love fouling turn 16.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:57 |
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Washout posted:I love fouling turn 16. Marry me.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:58 |
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Magnetic North posted:I know many goons disagree with me, but this is how I think of T16 fouling: I think your pixelmans are a jerk, your a jerk too, turn 16 foul forever, I even did it in table top. Washout fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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People who complain about fouling are babbies, hth.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 18:59 |
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He was mad because I was laughing when he had to apoth his witch elf because of a failed GFI. His team has 4 reserves and he only had 2 rerolls.
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bisonbison posted:Lizards lost to a pretty scary chaos dwarf team, with the standard loss of 3 skinks in the first 5 turns. He'd scored 2 in the first half, so when I got the ball near his endzone safely at H2T6, I brought a saurus down to try to get the touchdown. Hand-off fails, pickup fails, game over. "Why are you trying to stall when you're losing?" Sigh. I can kinda see what he means (though he was definitely being obtuse) there's always a chance of a riot/blitz on that turn 7(?) kickoff that would allow you to pull some Skink fuckery to tie the game vs Dorfs. But gently caress that, you were probably doing the smart thing. In an open league like Ranked/Blackbox, putting SPP on Saurus early on is way more important than winning if you plan on building a team for the long haul and potentially throwing them into majors. This is true of Box especially because once your team hits 15(?) games played, they're eligible to be matched with high TV murder teams.. something that seems to happens a lot in Box since so few people play in it (moreso during North American peak hours).
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 19:04 |
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Cas from fouling should give spp. Yesterday I played a goon pickup game on fumbbl. I lost so fouled a skeleton on the los on turn 16. He got badly hurt but regened. I didn't even register it as something bad. I don't get upset when others do it to me. If I was winning I probably wouldn't have done it but it is a little something for the one who gets (ever so slightly) mad at video games.
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Victor Vermis posted:I can kinda see what he means (though he was definitely being obtuse) there's always a chance of a riot/blitz on that turn 7(?) kickoff that would allow you to pull some Skink fuckery to tie the game vs Dorfs. Returning to Blood Bowl and Fumbbl after several years (played about 100 games in 2008-9, never very good), blackbox was exactly what I was hoping to find - easy matchmaking against random, close-ish teams. I'll be sad if it turns into newbie-stomping (ie me-stomping) after teams hit a dozen games. I don't have the predictable schedule a league would require, and I like the randomness of [B] vs. [R]. I keep hoping that fumbbl will be moving toward the clapomb nerf rules, since they'd help young bashy teams as much as anyone.
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Gamesguy posted:Without a specialized cage breaker you pretty much can't. What you can do is force the other guy to score by nibbling at the back of the cage and blocking elsewhere while he has 5 players tied up. Yeah I really need to get some actual levels on that skaven team. I've gone back to orcs for the time being to keep learning positioning, percentages and OOO for now though.
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bisonbison posted:Returning to Blood Bowl and Fumbbl after several years (played about 100 games in 2008-9, never very good), blackbox was exactly what I was hoping to find - easy matchmaking against random, close-ish teams. I'll be sad if it turns into newbie-stomping (ie me-stomping) after teams hit a dozen games. I don't have the predictable schedule a league would require, and I like the randomness of [B] vs. [R]. The easiest solution to the clawpomb problem is to play R.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 20:07 |
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If you foul on turn 16 you're worse than Stalin If you concede you're worse than Obama If you don't think halflings are the best team youre worse than a hemorrhoid in a salt bath If you enjoy playing bloodbowl you're worse than literally every sentient body in the universe
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bisonbison posted:Returning to Blood Bowl and Fumbbl after several years (played about 100 games in 2008-9, never very good), blackbox was exactly what I was hoping to find - easy matchmaking against random, close-ish teams. I'll be sad if it turns into newbie-stomping (ie me-stomping) after teams hit a dozen games. I don't have the predictable schedule a league would require, and I like the randomness of [B] vs. [R]. I think it's 30 games for the high-tv difference matchups. I have gotten the impression some people make a new team when they reach that limit to keep playing close to their TV. Personally I like the idea of a team with history but then Blackbox is its own kind of beast. Also I think I have played you in B if your coach name is bisonbison. You came at me with Dwarves. Tsk tsk. R seems just as full of pomb these days as B with the exception that everybody is trying to pick you. I went there a couple of days, laying out my gobs and prelfs and delfs and the only thing I saw on the reverse was chorfs and chaos and undead etc. Used to be more elfball around before the new rules. If I'm gonna play bash I might as well do it in B. Duuk fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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I actually got a draw vs a dwarf team tonight. Had a 1 - 0 lead and he throws a huge long pass on the last turn to run it in. I couldn't stop laughing.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 20:26 |
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I just like to derp around with my Undead team on FUMBBL. Got matched with choas dwarves. Got a blitz and ran that sucker in on turn 2. He joked about me getting another Blitz and I did. But he was ready and promptly shattered the bones of half my team. I like Blood Bowl to be played like it would be in the reality it is set it, but I like when the other player talks to me like a real human being instead of an actual grim-dark murder fantasy sport ball coach. There's so much less salt when you get a lip service 'sorry about your luck, man' with every serious injury. I guess the two biggest social rules of this game should be: You can be an rear end in a top hat to the players. Don't be an rear end in a top hat to the coach.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 20:48 |
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Some coaches think being as rear end in a top hat to their pixels is being an rear end in a top hat to them though.
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# ? Oct 4, 2015 20:58 |
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bisonbison posted:Returning to Blood Bowl and Fumbbl after several years (played about 100 games in 2008-9, never very good), blackbox was exactly what I was hoping to find - easy matchmaking against random, close-ish teams. I'll be sad if it turns into newbie-stomping (ie me-stomping) after teams hit a dozen games. I don't have the predictable schedule a league would require, and I like the randomness of [B] vs. [R]. Duuk posted:I think it's 30 games for the high-tv difference matchups. I have gotten the impression some people make a new team when they reach that limit to keep playing close to their TV. Personally I like the idea of a team with history but then Blackbox is its own kind of beast. Do you guys ever hang out in the tgbloodbowl sync channel? Jump in and holler if you're ever spinning. I'd like to play more Box but if two rounds go by without enough coaches to spin, that's a whole 30 minutes out the window. edit: or use the FUMBBL Blackbox channel. Im always in it but I keep it minimized 99% of the time.
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Free Cheese posted:If you foul on turn 16 you're worse than Stalin
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Just finished a game where I managed to stop a high elf offensive with a new chaos team while being 2 players down and win 1-0. I'd complain about not getting any POWs or Defender Downs in the entire first half, but to be fair my opponent miscliked and gave me a turnover once and had pretty bad luck with pass rolls. He basically outplayed me the entire game and my score chance was almost elfbowl bullshit. He also ended up with all his team on the pitch and I had 3 CAS. Fun game, it feel that we were playing against our team's strengths. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Duuk posted:Also I think I have played you in B if your coach name is bisonbison. That's me. I've played about 30 games since I started up again, pretty much all bashy, and yeah, dorfs! Injuring people is a big part of the fun for me. Now that I have the basics down again I will try my hand at, uh, amazons or some poo poo. Victor Vermis posted:Do you guys ever hang out in the tgbloodbowl sync channel? Jump in and holler if you're ever spinning. I'd like to play more Box but if two rounds go by without enough coaches to spin, that's a whole 30 minutes out the window. I'm pretty much trying to squeeze in 2 games weekday mornings from 6-8 am Pacific, otherwise, I have very little uninterruptable home time. So I feel lucky when it's 4-5 folks boxing, and unlucky when it's 2-3.
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bisonbison posted:That's me. Amazon is actually really bashy if you manage your TV pretty close. You can get like 4 blodging POMBers at 1200.
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How do you deal with elves/skaven running away from low level chaos guys? Moving my guys close means he can usually overcome the strength disadvantage and punch me during his turn, and I have no skills (block and guard, mostly) to make a turnover likely yet. The only reliable way I've found is using at least two players to surround one of their pieces away from the action, so he can't commit players away from the scrum, but that's not really optimal play.
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Fat Samurai posted:How do you deal with elves/skaven running away from low level chaos guys? Moving my guys close means he can usually overcome the strength disadvantage and punch me during his turn, and I have no skills (block and guard, mostly) to make a turnover likely yet. This is why chaos is bad at low TV. Not much you can do with development dependent teams when they don't have any development. The only thing you can do really is to take block/frenzy and block/tackle on two separate beasts as early as possible. I usually get a block/frenzy one asap. A smart elf player will target a specialized blitzer though.
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# ? Oct 5, 2015 07:57 |
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Chaos at low TV is suffering, so if you find something that's strictly optimal, be sure to let us know. The meta-game answer is that you're not stopping them from scoring, so the real solution is to pressure their ball carrier so much that they have no choice but to score quickly so you can get the ball back early in the half, to hopefully score before the end of it. With a passing game, you do this by pressuring the thrower heavily and doing your best to envelop his cage. Ignore the catchers - you're right, the only way to neutralize them is to double mark them (and in the case of Pro Elves not even that helps, their catchers are absolutely insane) and that's a losing proposition. Dogpile the thrower's cage and force them to throw and score by turn 2 or 3 so you can get the ball back and grind down the pitch with the majority of the half. With a running game like the Skaven do, it's kind of the same but you can be more aggressive in getting close and leaving a few players unmarked since the opponent isn't going to be that interested in tossing the ball around. On AG4 teams everyone is a ball handling threat, so leaving one edge of the cage unmarked means that you could be looking at a hand-off and a dash to burn another turn. Skaven are AG3, so once they have the ball in the hands of a decent Gutter Runner it's probably not leaving it. Once the opponent has the ball in a Gutter Runner's hands, just play a zone defense to make it risky to stall the score. Your goal is less to stop them from scoring and more to get the ball back. This is the soul of 'the 2-1 grind'. Basically, the half you kick, you force your opponent to score quickly and then score at the end of the half. The half you receive, you control the ball and grind slowly down the pitch to score (ideally) on the last turn, and provide no chance to answer the score, which gives you a 2-1 victory. As your TV rises, double-marking receivers can make more sense since you don't need so many men to provide a big threat to a cage. A Minotaur with Tentacles can bust into a cage spoke and lock down an elf thrower almost by himself. In that case, covering the receivers can make some sense since you might actually be able to stop the score. Unless, again, you're playing against Pro Elves. Catchers with Dodge and Nerves of Steel are not to be underestimated.
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Yesterday I had the worst game ever with my 1700TV Chaos team against some really bullshit dwarves. Round 1 first action my Minotaur hit double skulls, reroll, double skulls, injury-death, apothecary, injury miss next game. And it only went downhill from there. I ended the first half with 5 injured players and 2 KO's. I sincerely apologize but I conceded there. On the plus side on the next game (which I had to play with 4 loners at TV 1400-something) my lowest Chaos Warrior got a +STR, so now he is Block/STR. I am thinking about giving him tentacles so he can be a really good safety.
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# ? Oct 5, 2015 09:58 |
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I think I'm in love with BB2. My dark elves at TV 1960 came across a 2200ish Chaos team. I'm average at best, so I figured it meant the end of them. The other guy had no frenzy and no tackle. Less than half his people had block. More than half had claw. I asked if he's not a big believer in tackle. There was no answer. I kicked off. It was a blitz event with touchback, so my WE sent a goat out of bounds. He made a weird cage, tried to surf a sidestepping blodger, and marked the WE. The WE sent two more goats sprawling into the crowd in the next turns while I stalled the cage. He apo'd the first guy to get an injury, a claw goat with a pinched nerve. At turn 6, he spoke for the first time, saying all he wanted was to hit someone. I was enjoying myself too much to risk him rage-quitting from a smug reply, so I kept my schadenfreude to myself. At turn 7, his cage brushed against my screen. I knocked two warriors over, and the ball was freed from Chaos oppression by our lord and saviour, Agi 5 Leap Blodge Surehands Elf. My opponent shares his thoughts with a wall of text detailing how the developers are utterly inept, that game imbalance is a terrible problem and nothing is fair. I suggest that it could it could be easier at this TV with a guy or two with tackle. The game is conceded not a moment after. Elf bullshit is the best bullshit. I have been nervous about playing my elves now that they're in the bash zone, but if this is what the competition is like, it'll be a riot.
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Evernoob posted:Yesterday I had the worst game ever with my 1700TV Chaos team against some really bullshit dwarves. For what it's worth, you should generally avoid making a block with a Big Guy your first action, unless your entire play depends on it. Yes, they're big and can easily get 2d blocks against pretty much anything, but the fact that they don't have block and do have loner makes even those 2d blocks with them fairly risky and likely to cause a turnover. A 2d block with a chaos warrior or beastman who has block is incredibly unlikely to result in a turnover when you have a reroll to spend, somewhere around 0.07% range. Meanwhile, getting two skulls/both down results and having loner trigger with a big guy sits at a decidedly more likely ~5%.
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Donnerberg posted:Elf bullshit is the best bullshit. I have been nervous about playing my elves now that they're in the bash zone, but if this is what the competition is like, it'll be a riot. I swear I'm going to learn to elf and skavenbowl this time around. Have they fixed multiblock-stab in BB2? Are assassins the funhaver option in DE teams?
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# ? Oct 5, 2015 10:30 |
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Elves are definitely the funhaver option. A dark elf guy I was joking around with was praising nuffle the entire match. Nuffle blessed him, as his elf dodged into my cage, picked up the ball, then proceeded to make five more dodges (without a reroll) and two going for its, to run in the ball. He did this three times. He even laughed when I surrounded his witch elf and booted her to stop her from pulling the ridiculous plays. He just switched to a runner and did it again. Final score was 5-1 to him, with three of those being done in the second half. He'd just blitz a guy into my cages (even on doubles where I got to pick), still knock my guy over and then just move on. Kinda want to dump my bret team to try dark elves out now that I understand the mobility game a bit better. On another note, how do you do those multiple pass plays I saw welfs do in the first cyanide BB game? I've never worked that out.
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You can't multiple pass but you can hand-off to someone who then passes to a third player who then runs in for the TD.
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