lordsummerisle posted:

My girlfriend is going to purchase adventure time love letter for her nephew and I am gonna let her use my free shipping to do so. Was thinking of adding something for myself, but I just got a gigantic box of great games.

So the question is: If I like Valley of the Kings after having just gotten it, is it safe to buy Afterlife this soon after? Seems like it expands the games possible set ups without adding any new rules....

Taear posted:

I think the men are quite sexualised as well, kinda feel like it's moving towards an 80s B movie style. There's women in there that don't have that sort of breasts out look - Rosario, Elle and Kanga for sure.

Dirk the Average posted:

Go for it. Afterlife gives you a new set of each type, so you can mix, match, and bring in two more players.

JohnnySavs posted:

Why would an avatar of Sloth even bother showing up?

Taear posted:

Not much different from the Hellfire Club in the Xmen comics tbh. Seems like a pretty normal name to me.

cenotaph posted:

I've only played the original but it's super good.

Big McHuge posted:

I'm fairly sure that the definition of over-sexualized isn't just limited to gigantic tits, but also includes tits that are falling out because the shirt is only buttoned at the waist.

fozzy fosbourne posted:

Well, the Hellfire Club was literally a thing irl although I don't think they summoned diarrhea monsters irl, not sure tbh. maybe rutibex knows, he's a history buff

Rutibex posted:

The definition of "over" sexualization is subjective. Some people like it, and they are the audience for that game. Unfortunately we don't live in a puritan theocracy, so people have the right to express themselves freely, and sell things that are of only a limited appeal.

Impermanent posted:

Thanks to our glorious people's democracy, I'm fully within my rights to tell you to shut the gently caress up when you trod out tired "free speech" arguments in favor of titty miniatures that keep this hobby inaccessible.

Rutibex posted:

It's not the titty miniatures that keep women from playing nerd games.

Woman just don't like board games on average. There are currently 1463 male chess grandmasters in the world, and only 33 female. Chess is not a sexualized game at all, so it can't be misogyny that's keeping woman from playing it. Given that any board game is going to have a 98% male audience, it stands to reason that it should be marketed in ways that appeal to men.

Toshimo posted:

Want to grab a new game for a local bg theme night. What's the best thing that would fit "Rolling Dice"? Also prefer something that does 4 people (or 5-6, minimum 4) well, is more towards 60 minutes or less, and is maybe in the $50 or lower range.

Taear posted:

Has anyone mentioned The Others: Seven Sins yet? It's the last 15 hours of it on Kickstarter and the first boardgame I've backed. Tonnes of extra stuff and made by the Chaos In The Old World guy.

Rutibex posted:

Woman just don't like board games on average. There are currently 1463 male chess grandmasters in the world, and only 33 female. Chess is not a sexualized game at all, so it can't be misogyny that's keeping woman from playing it. Given that any board game is going to have a 98% male audience, it stands to reason that it should be marketed in ways that appeal to men.

PRADA SLUT posted:

I know most people here are neckbearded Ascension haters (that game that's like Dominion but better), but the next (8th) expansion was announced.

The new mechanic, Dreamborn, gives players an insight token (a currency that carries over at the end of the round) when it flops, as well as one to the acquiring player (and other card effects).

With these tokens, players can buy cards from their "dream deck", which they draft at the start. You get 5 dream cards and keep 3 (hidden), and then start the game as normal. Dream cards can be things you acquire to your deck, or one-shot effects. The idea is that it gives you some sort of direction or strategy to aim for at the very start, and lets you keep late-game cards in reserve for later (which would just poo poo up the center row for 10 turns otherwise)

They also have a different art style for dream cards, which seemed to be the source of the most bitching about the game.

Toshimo posted:

Want to grab a new game for a local bg theme night. What's the best thing that would fit "Rolling Dice"? Also prefer something that does 4 people (or 5-6, minimum 4) well, is more towards 60 minutes or less, and is maybe in the $50 or lower range.

RftG? Seasons?

Rutibex posted:

It's not the titty miniatures that keep women from playing nerd games.

Woman just don't like board games on average. There are currently 1463 male chess grandmasters in the world, and only 33 female. Chess is not a sexualized game at all, so it can't be misogyny that's keeping woman from playing it. Given that any board game is going to have a 98% male audience, it stands to reason that it should be marketed in ways that appeal to men.

Tekopo posted:

Rutibex posted:

It's not the titty miniatures that keep women from playing nerd games.

Woman just don't like board games on average. There are currently 1463 male chess grandmasters in the world, and only 33 female. Chess is not a sexualized game at all, so it can't be misogyny that's keeping woman from playing it. Given that any board game is going to have a 98% male audience, it stands to reason that it should be marketed in ways that appeal to men.

Xelkelvos posted:

Inb4 the discussion on the inherently sexist culture that currently occupies the chess playing community.

Lorini posted:

e: Rutibex, it's not that women don't' like gaming, it's that they aren't exposed to it as much as men have been in the past. My meetup was filled with women who wanted a safe place to game, and they knew that me being a woman, I would not harass them and I would treat them with respect. My reputation was such, many women played hobby games for the first time at my meetup.

Rutibex posted:

It's not the titty miniatures that keep women from playing nerd games.

Woman just don't like board games on average. There are currently 1463 male chess grandmasters in the world, and only 33 female. Chess is not a sexualized game at all, so it can't be misogyny that's keeping woman from playing it. Given that any board game is going to have a 98% male audience, it stands to reason that it should be marketed in ways that appeal to men.

Toshimo posted:

So, they cranked variance TO THE XTREME on Coinflip: The Deckbuilder and you think the chief complaint about the game was the art?

PRADA SLUT posted:

See, there are people who are just going to cry about the gameplay no matter what because they hate the idea of having unknowns to work with, and prefer neat little piles of identical cards every single game. Those players will never like Ascension, just like some players will never like Magic because, god forbid, you get bad draws and lose a game occasionally.

However, there's a group of people who thought the game was great, but were put off by the original art style, which has changed for various expansions as time went on:

GrandpaPants posted:

I don't think I've seen a single CMON game that has received unqualified praise yet, and I imagine most of them are situated firmly in the mediocre to terrible range.

Gutter Owl posted:

ahahahahaha you dumb nasty motherfucker, you come into my house

Y'know what? You're right. It's not the titty miniatures that keep women out of gaming. It's the people who sell the titty miniatures, and the people who buy them. It's the corporate culture that values the male 20-35 demo so goddamn much for some reason that it acts like half the population is an unsellable market, and thus busts out male power fantasy after male conquest fantasy after male tits-or-GTFO fantasy. And it's the greasy fedoras n' cheez cesspool of geek culture that can't tell the difference between /tg/ and real life, and won't keep its goddamn elf-rape fantasies in the private spank folder it belongs in. Hell, ignoring the cat piss legions, it's the goddamn condescending "Are you here with your boyfriend?" milieu that assumes we're intruders no matter how goddamn long we've been here. (Which let me tell you, is just as loving rampant in FIDE as on BGG or the back tables of the Goblin's Prostate Game n' Jerk. Chess is rife with innumerable loving "Are men inherently better at chess than women?" discussions.)

And y'know what else? It's not loving working anymore.

Arguably it never loving worked, women have been part and parcel of the nerd market since the good ol' Star Trek slash-fiction days of the seventies, but we were bottlenecked by hostile retail environments that doubled as stanky boys' clubs. But tabletop gaming (and comics and SFF and everything else territorial nerd babies get butthurt about) has seen an increasing female audience since since the rise of Amazon et al, which lets gal hobbyists bypass the comic shop creepshows and create our own enclaves. And the tradgames industry players need to adapt or die, because they're getting hardcore competed out of the profitable sectors of the niche by publishers that treat us like humans.

Jedit posted:

Dogs of War and Guilds of Cadwallon deserve unqualified praise. World of Smog would as well, were it not that one of the special action cards is a little swingy. It's only their minis games that are weak; if they concentrated on making pretty bits for other people's good games I wouldn't complain at all.

Toshimo posted:

It's adorable that you think the gameplay complaints can be summed up by ~hurr durr hidden information~. Magic, this ain't.

Gutter Owl posted:

ahahahahaha you dumb nasty motherfucker, you come into my house

Y'know what? You're right. It's not the titty miniatures that keep women out of gaming. It's the people who sell the titty miniatures, and the people who buy them. It's the corporate culture that values the male 20-35 demo so goddamn much for some reason that it acts like half the population is an unsellable market, and thus busts out male power fantasy after male conquest fantasy after male tits-or-GTFO fantasy. And it's the greasy fedoras n' cheez cesspool of geek culture that can't tell the difference between /tg/ and real life, and won't keep its goddamn elf-rape fantasies in the private spank folder it belongs in. Hell, ignoring the cat piss legions, it's the goddamn condescending "Are you here with your boyfriend?" milieu that assumes we're intruders no matter how goddamn long we've been here. (Which let me tell you, is just as loving rampant in FIDE as on BGG or the back tables of the Goblin's Prostate Game n' Jerk. Chess is rife with innumerable loving "Are men inherently better at chess than women?" discussions.)

And y'know what else? It's not loving working anymore.

Arguably it never loving worked, women have been part and parcel of the nerd market since the good ol' Star Trek slash-fiction days of the seventies, but we were bottlenecked by hostile retail environments that doubled as stanky boys' clubs. But tabletop gaming (and comics and SFF and everything else territorial nerd babies get butthurt about) has seen an increasing female audience since since the rise of Amazon et al, which lets gal hobbyists bypass the comic shop creepshows and create our own enclaves. And the tradgames industry players need to adapt or die, because they're getting hardcore competed out of the profitable sectors of the niche by publishers that treat us like humans.

PRADA SLUT posted:

See, this is what I'm talking about. There are some people that just can't handle the idea that they'll lose an occasional game due to really bad draws, even if they think they did everything absolutely perfectly. There's no way to convince those people that any expansion is going to be fun, so they probably shouldn't even play the game at all.

They seem like the kind of people that throw a similar, self-righteous fit if another player gets a fantastic roll and knocks them out of King Of Tokyo.