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havenwaters posted:Press kit Fact Sheet for the Surface Book showed up, it's a docx file: http://news.microsoft.com/download/presskits/surface/docs/surfacebookfs.docx So not a gaming book then Which is find mind you, but don't expect gaming performance on this thing.
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The Iron Rose posted:So not a gaming book then He did demo playing Gears of War on stage, then some footage editing. It can do some gaming, the question is, exactly how much?
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Oct 6, 2015 22:16
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Skandranon posted:He did demo playing Gears of War on stage, then some footage editing. It can do some gaming, the question is, exactly how much? The demo was actually a video of gameplay footage from a Surface Book playing Gears HD so *shrug* It wasn't exactly a live demo.
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MrChupon posted:Will that Surface Book have user upgradable HDD and RAM? Almost certainly not
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TopherCStone posted:Most certainly not The form factor just doesn't allow for anything except maybe an ssd swap. However since the book need to be able to run without being hooked to the dock and it's one big tablet... I hope you like removing glass with a credit card.
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That picture actually made me burst out laughing. I know attention to detail isn't exactly Microsoft's strong suite but even so that is ridiculous.
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Oh boy the screen is 3:2. Not quite as tall as a 15.6" 16:9. Not that I'd want this. Glossy screen, no trackpad buttons, where's the optical drive. sarehu fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 23:10
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sarehu posted:Oh boy the screen is 3:2. Not quite as tall as a 15.6" 16:9. 3:2 aspect ratio is way better for productivity imo, especially at 3000x2000  What do you need trackpad buttons for? Get a USB optical drive because lol who still uses optical media  Aphrodite posted:
Way to pick a skewed image of poor quailty. Sans the small gap of space, it looks like any other wedge shaped laptop when closed. 
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Oct 6, 2015 23:20
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dissss posted:That picture actually made me burst out laughing. I think that picture's off, I watched the livestream and a few on-hands reviews. It does not look that clunky. Here's one from a reporter at the on-hands: 
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Aphrodite posted:Writing on a laptop with a touchscreen is bad. You don't want to do that. You can type faster than you can write anyway, can't you? Arguibly you should be writing your notes, studies show that when you type out your notes you don't actually pick up what is being taught so using something like a Surface/SurfacePro/Book with a pen and OneNote is actually a very good thing. As far as the Surface Pro line goes, I'm quite happy MS kept some backwards compatibility, that bodes well for future generations of this product, most likely things will continue to get slimmer while keeping keyboard/pen/docking port compatible. I doubt the SP3 dock will work with the SP5, but the SP4 dock (backwards compatible with the SP3) will most likely work with the SP5 using the same thin power/data port. MS doing some good stuff. Fatal fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Fatal posted:Arguibly you should be writing your notes, studies show that when you type out your notes you don't actually pick up what is being taught so using something like a Surface/SurfacePro/Book with a pen and OneNote is actually a very good thing. In addition, writing math and science equations is far faster than typing. It's also a life saver for homework, especially if you're sloppy like me and work through problems sloppily. I can cut/paste/move/resize, whereas my classmates had to rewrite their homework or do it in Word/Latex.
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sarehu posted:Oh boy the screen is 3:2. Not quite as tall as a 15.6" 16:9. I haven't had an optical drive in a laptop since 2005.
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Rurutia posted:In addition, writing math and science equations is far faster than typing. It's also a life saver for homework, especially if you're sloppy like me and work through problems sloppily. I can cut/paste/move/resize, whereas my classmates had to rewrite their homework or do it in Word/Latex. Have you played around with the handwritten math to text stuff or just purely using handwritten? Curious how much it actually converts.
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If you look at the vents, those other 2 pictures depict the screen facing up. It's possible that it doesn't close the same depending on the direction it's connected. It's not my picture, someone just posted it.
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Rurutia posted:I think that picture's off, I watched the livestream and a few on-hands reviews. It does not look that clunky. Here's one from a reporter at the on-hands: Yeah I get that the other picture was stretched (just look at the USB ports) but it's still a massive fail given how thick it makes the device when closed.
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dissss posted:Yeah I get that the other picture was stretched (just look at the USB ports) but it's still a massive fail given how thick it makes the device when closed. As thick as any other laptop in it's class?
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Skandranon posted:As thick as any other laptop in it's class? Yeah, I don't get the thickness complaint, at it's thickest it's 0.9", who knows what the other end is but significantly thinner. Very comparable to the MBP at 0.71" especially since the Surface Book weighs less. Fatal fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oh my I want that new Surface laptop. Of course I want the $2,700 version. Nope. Way too expensive.
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Fatal posted:Yeah, I don't get the thickness complaint, at it's thickest it's 0.9", who knows what the other end is but significantly thinner. Very comparable to the MBP at 0.71" especially since the Surface Book weighs less. That's almost a 30% difference.
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hotsauce posted:Oh my I want that new Surface laptop. Of course I want the $2,700 version. The one that is already out of stock  Aphrodite posted:That's almost a 30% difference. Yes, but what is the other end? I'd wager is the same amount of cubic space, just squished to one end.
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Just FYI everyone, most modern games can be played on most modern laptops as long as you're willing to crank the graphics down to low. Like yeah you probably shouldn't be expecting to go play Arkham Knight on high without a dGPU but if that's your priority then you're probably looking for a computer with a dGPU anyway.
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Skandranon posted:As thick as any other laptop in it's class? It's in the same class as an XPS 13 which is around 2/3rds the thickness.
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dissss posted:It's in the same class as an XPS 13 which is around 2/3rds the thickness. Not with the dGPU
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I'm not quite sure how thin people expect it to be with a dGPU. v v I feel like there's limits to the technology available and it's pretty amazing what they have accomplished in such a small space. As someone who do place aesthetics pretty high up there, it really doesn't bother me. Especially since the screen detaches into a separate tablet that (supposedly) has a 6 hr battery life alone and is compatible with Surface Pro keyboards.With that said, I understand why it'd be a personal deal breaker, I just don't think it's fair to laugh and say they really hosed up.
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Fatal posted:Not with the dGPU The dGPU model isn't going to be worthwhile anyway
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dissss posted:The dGPU model isn't going to be worthwhile anyway It's either a 950m or 960m, that's worth it compared to any of the mobile Iris line.
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Fatal posted:It's either a 950m or 960m, that's worth it compared to any of the mobile Iris line. Really? With a 65W power adapter?
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dissss posted:Really? With a 65W power adapter? NVidia is saying Maxwell architecture, but yeah no clue. source gpus with maxwell Rurutia fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Rurutia posted:NVidia is saying Maxwell architecture, but yeah no clue. source gpus with maxwell 930M and 940M are Maxwell too IIRC
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dissss posted:930M and 940M are Maxwell too IIRC
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Fatal posted:Have you played around with the handwritten math to text stuff or just purely using handwritten? Curious how much it actually converts. Sorry was phone posting, totally forgot to reply to this. Yes I have. It converts fine if you write it exactly like how typing would format it. However, I am more laissez faire with my notation when I'm doing complicated proofs so I rarely use the conversion.
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ilkhan posted:If it's less than a 940 they'll lose all their customers. It's a 950 most likely, 960 would be unexpectedly nice. Given that it comes with a 65W power adapter I don't see how that is going to work
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Apparently I have nothing better to do between sets. So looks like the GPU is custom which is why they're being so hush hush about it. sourcequote:The new GPU is a Maxwell based GPU with GDDR5 memory. It was designed to deliver the best performance in ultra-thin form factors such as the Surface Book keyboard dock. Given its unique implementation and design in the keyboard module, it cannot be compared to a traditional 900M series GPU. Contact Microsoft for performance information.
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Rurutia posted:Apparently I have nothing better to do between sets. So looks like the GPU is custom which is why they're being so hush hush about it. source Intriguing. I was waiting to buy the upgraded XPS 13 but a slim laptop with a dGPU is incredibly tempting. This comes out at the end of the month?
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