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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Technical Analysis posted:

To be fair to Jesus, the slavery of his time was nothing like the chattel slavery of the United States.

Slavery between Jews yes, slavery of non-Jews no.

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VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

Keeshhound posted:

Utah's reasoning is probably the only way you could hope to sell increased welfare to some people. At the end of the day, it really is just cheaper to keep people healthy and housed. An ounce of prevention, and all that.

Of course, some people are gross as poo poo.


:barf:

I posted it and only one guy bit. And he gave the expected response:
<<While I don't necessarily disagree with the idea. I see this as another way people can work the system. Another way people get to not work. Really. Where they getting the $50 from? I'm tired of seeing panhandlers that are wearing Jordan's and talking on their iPhones.>>

By the way, I have literally NEVER seen a panhandler wearing new shoes and/or using a smartphone. There is a guy with one arm who washes windows at an intersection I drive past all the time, but I guess he could be faking. :shrug:

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

PROCEED
I bet he just pops his real arm back on at the end of the day before getting in his BMW and going home to steak and lobster dinners! :argh:

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

My worse fear about these shootings is that the NRA will start pushing politicians and news organizations to not talk about these incidents at all. To the point where even saying it happens gets you a F rating on your "Pro Second Amendment" Score Card.

JDee
Nov 27, 2006
goon

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

only christ can prevent these things from happening, and any day now, He will

Gloryhold It!
Sep 22, 2008

Fucking
Adorable
If I were homeless, the best investments I could make would be a decent, reliable smartphone and a good pair of shoes. You're going to be on your feet all the time, and a smartphone is access to internet, maps, entertainment, emergency alerts, and it can actually make phone calls too.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

That, and if you're trying to stop being homelessness, having a phone number that an employer can reach you at is going to be a huge leg up.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Bobulus posted:

That, and if you're trying to stop being homelessness, having a phone number that an employer can reach you at is going to be a huge leg up.

Yes, but a land line is much cheaper :downs:

Clearly the lazy poors are just bad at calculating costs!

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Agreed, gun restrictions must be broad based to be effective and to avoid stigmatizing an already vulnerable group of people.

e: And like clockwork, an old friend arrives...



Americans have uniquely bad hearts, probably as a result of delicious State Fair foods.

Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Oct 7, 2015

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

So, this conservative Christian is implying that she's pro-porn rights?

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

Mo_Steel posted:

Agreed, gun restrictions must be broad based to be effective and to avoid stigmatizing an already vulnerable group of people.

e: And like clockwork, an old friend arrives...



Americans have uniquely bad hearts, probably as a result of delicious State Fair foods.

Yeah, remember all those times a single lunatic killed dozens of people in one fell swoop with a rock?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

"abortions are terrible, we should ban them. women should be forced to face the consequences of their actions, and give the kid up for adoption if necessary"

...

"kids raised in broken homes, without fathers, are a menace to society"

I'm sure he's badmouthed birth control in some form at some point. Did he ever suggest that women should put out more? Then we could establish that there is nothing women could do to not be somehow at fault.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

BigRed0427 posted:

My worse fear about these shootings is that the NRA will start pushing politicians and news organizations to not talk about these incidents at all. To the point where even saying it happens gets you a F rating on your "Pro Second Amendment" Score Card.

The thing is that not talking about them would be a pretty viable way of preventing at least some shootings. A proportion of spree killers do it because they're attracted to the idea of being infamous. It's not exactly a scientific source but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

Willatron posted:

Yeah, remember all those times a single lunatic killed dozens of people in one fell swoop with a rock?

If only Cain had had a gun, this whole humanity experiment could have been aborted in one fell swoop and God wouldn't have had to waste his time with that flood 8 generations later.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Willatron posted:

Yeah, remember all those times a single lunatic killed dozens of people in one fell swoop with a rock?

My favorite thing along these lines was a couple years ago when China had a string of knife attacks (some people were calling them mass-stabbings, but IIRC and it being China, the guys used cleavers), and gun nuts were saying "look, you see, even without guns this will still happen," but in most of the attacks no one actually died.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

VideoTapir posted:

My favorite thing along these lines was a couple years ago when China had a string of knife attacks (some people were calling them mass-stabbings, but IIRC and it being China, the guys used cleavers), and gun nuts were saying "look, you see, even without guns this will still happen," but in most of the attacks no one actually died.
I don't know about 'most of the attacks,' but it's not like there haven't actually been large-scale knife killings in China. Fifty people were killed recently.

Of course, that took a group of attackers, not a lone nut.

Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Oct 7, 2015

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Willatron posted:

Yeah, remember all those times a single lunatic killed dozens of people in one fell swoop with a rock?
If brimstone counts as a rock then the people who quote Bible verses certainly should.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
So the Oregon shooter couldn't get laid.

Which means that the shockjock here in Phoenix is raving again that women, if you only had sex with these men, they'd shoot poo poo less. Women, in the office today, pick out the office weirdo, take all the women in the breakroom and draw straws. Short one has to give him a handjob or blowjob. Repeat every week, then he won't want to shoot up the place!

This happens every loving time there is a shooting. It's womens' fault because women make men crazy, especially when they can't get laid.

Same dude was on furious blast yesterday, the anniversary of Clarence Thomas and the sexual harassment case, how what he did might have been out of line but it wasn't real harassment and women need to take a joke and that bitch ruined office humor forever.

This isn't even a loving radio talk show. Just shut up, play the music, and do the funny impressions! Stop blaming women for psychos shooting up the place! I'm honestly surprised he didn't blame 9/11 on women not offering to gently caress the hijackers on the planes.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

Cowslips Warren posted:

So the Oregon shooter couldn't get laid.

Which means that the shockjock here in Phoenix is raving again that women, if you only had sex with these men, they'd shoot poo poo less. Women, in the office today, pick out the office weirdo, take all the women in the breakroom and draw straws. Short one has to give him a handjob or blowjob. Repeat every week, then he won't want to shoot up the place!

This happens every loving time there is a shooting. It's womens' fault because women make men crazy, especially when they can't get laid.

Same dude was on furious blast yesterday, the anniversary of Clarence Thomas and the sexual harassment case, how what he did might have been out of line but it wasn't real harassment and women need to take a joke and that bitch ruined office humor forever.

This isn't even a loving radio talk show. Just shut up, play the music, and do the funny impressions! Stop blaming women for psychos shooting up the place! I'm honestly surprised he didn't blame 9/11 on women not offering to gently caress the hijackers on the planes.

That was also a thing when that Germanwings pilot flew his plane into the ground in France.

Vox loving Day posted:

Now, obviously no one else was responsible for Lubritch’s actions if it indeed was Omega rage at work. He alone bears the blame. But it is somewhat haunting to think about how many lives might be saved each year if the sluts of the world were just a little less picky and a little more equitable in their distribution of blowjobs.

Bretibart are also pushing the 'Feminism creates killers' meme too.

Milo posted:

I might be a raging homo, but I still innately understand the male need to conquer, crush and win. Men need to express that dark, powerful part of themselves, or it can abruptly overflow. If it is suppressed, derided and ridiculed, it can show up without warning and with horrible consequences.

That’s why I’m so distressed that heterosexual men are being told, constantly, by the media and even in schools, that what they are is bad. This, I submit, is at least in part what’s driving the recent spate of shootings.

The media trash-talks everything men love: guns, booze, boisterousness, drugs, sex and video games. Economic pressures are relentlessly stripping away male spaces like the traditional pub, where blokes can drink and bond. Social pressures are opening up male-only golf and social clubs to women, destroying what made them precious and essential.

My golfcourses!

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Helen Highwater posted:

That was also a thing when that Germanwings pilot flew his plane into the ground in France.


Bretibart are also pushing the 'Feminism creates killers' meme too.


My golfcourses!
Patriarchy hurts everyone.

Smash the patriarchy.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



quote:

That’s why I’m so distressed that heterosexual men are being told, constantly, by the media and even in schools, that what they are is bad. This, I submit, is at least in part what’s driving the recent spate of shootings.

The media trash-talks everything men love: guns, booze, boisterousness, drugs, sex and video games. Economic pressures are relentlessly stripping away male spaces like the traditional pub, where blokes can drink and bond. Social pressures are opening up male-only golf and social clubs to women, destroying what made them precious and essential.

What the hell is this crap? I'm a straight white guy and nobody has ever told me that it's bad to be me. Nobody's taken away my video games or ability to have sex. I still go to the pub once or twice a week with mates, sometimes all guys too. I know, it's incredible. Even more bizarre is that my dad is a straight white guy and he plays golf up to three times a week with his male friends! It's almost as if nothing at all is stopping us from being white dudes and doing the same things we always did!

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

VideoTapir posted:

My favorite thing along these lines was a couple years ago when China had a string of knife attacks (some people were calling them mass-stabbings, but IIRC and it being China, the guys used cleavers), and gun nuts were saying "look, you see, even without guns this will still happen," but in most of the attacks no one actually died.

We do not want to start detailing the many times that a single individual killed dozens (sometimes hundreds) of their fellow humans with non-firearm implements. It is a depressing and sobering list. Be glad that here in the states what is possibly the least effective tool for mass murder is selected.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

How much poon was Hitler getting prior to the Holocaust.

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.

Jurgan posted:

Just World. The homeless are rightly suffering for their laziness, and eliminating their punishment would be thwarting justice.

Except homeless veterans, who are homeless because liberals would rather give nuclear weapons to terrorist nations.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

LeJackal posted:

We do not want to start detailing the many times that a single individual killed dozens (sometimes hundreds) of their fellow humans with non-firearm implements. It is a depressing and sobering list. Be glad that here in the states what is possibly the least effective tool for mass murder is selected.

I don't think you can say that and then not post a link.

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice

LeJackal posted:

Be glad that here in the states what is possibly the least effective tool for mass murder is selected.

But we have capitalism ???

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

LeJackal posted:

We do not want to start detailing the many times that a single individual killed dozens (sometimes hundreds) of their fellow humans with non-firearm implements. It is a depressing and sobering list. Be glad that here in the states what is possibly the least effective tool for mass murder is selected.

lol

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.

V-Men posted:

Except homeless veterans, who are homeless because liberals would rather give money to Planned Parenthood for aborted fetuses five-star hotel rooms to Syrian refugees free housing/food/medicine/schooling to illegal immigrants free lunches to kids in school with poor parents healthcare to 9/11 first responders NASA nuclear weapons to terrorist nations.

I mean we were just days away to giving all homeless veterans great new houses and jobs but then liberals had to go and ruin it every time.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Zanzibar Ham posted:

I don't think you can say that and then not post a link.

Pick a genre.

Vehicular arson, for example, includes;

Daegu subway fire; 192 Deaths
Chengdu bus fire: 28 deaths
China Northern Airlines Flight 6136: 112 deaths
Xiamen bus fire: 48 deaths

Edit:

Buzkashi posted:

But we have capitalism ???

The greatest killer of them all.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The world has fallen to evil, now let me tell you how Christ approves of my 9-5 office job and 2.5 kids.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

mr. mephistopheles posted:

How much poon was Hitler getting prior to the Holocaust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Adolf_Hitler

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

LeJackal posted:

Pick a genre.

Vehicular arson, for example, includes;

Daegu subway fire; 192 Deaths
Chengdu bus fire: 28 deaths
China Northern Airlines Flight 6136: 112 deaths
Xiamen bus fire: 48 deaths


if fire codes are enforced then only criminals will commit arson

wait, uh, hold on. we're still workshopping that one. get back to you

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Zanzibar Ham posted:

I don't think you can say that and then not post a link.

Box cutters had a bit of a spike a few years back. But guns have the long term advantage.

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

LeJackal posted:

Pick a genre.

Vehicular arson, for example, includes;

Daegu subway fire; 192 Deaths
Chengdu bus fire: 28 deaths
China Northern Airlines Flight 6136: 112 deaths
Xiamen bus fire: 48 deaths


It's you, you ARE the crazy email forward.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

LeJackal posted:

Pick a genre.

Vehicular arson, for example, includes;

Daegu subway fire; 192 Deaths
Chengdu bus fire: 28 deaths
China Northern Airlines Flight 6136: 112 deaths
Xiamen bus fire: 48 deaths

FBI Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Moxie
Aug 2, 2003

Cowslips Warren posted:

So the Oregon shooter couldn't get laid.

Which means that the shockjock here in Phoenix is raving again that women, if you only had sex with these men, they'd shoot poo poo less. Women, in the office today, pick out the office weirdo, take all the women in the breakroom and draw straws. Short one has to give him a handjob or blowjob. Repeat every week, then he won't want to shoot up the place!

This happens every loving time there is a shooting. It's womens' fault because women make men crazy, especially when they can't get laid.

Same dude was on furious blast yesterday, the anniversary of Clarence Thomas and the sexual harassment case, how what he did might have been out of line but it wasn't real harassment and women need to take a joke and that bitch ruined office humor forever.

This isn't even a loving radio talk show. Just shut up, play the music, and do the funny impressions! Stop blaming women for psychos shooting up the place! I'm honestly surprised he didn't blame 9/11 on women not offering to gently caress the hijackers on the planes.

I think it's true that social isolation and romantic failure motivates a lot of these shooters. Obviously liberal application of pity loving is not a female imperative. Safe and legal prostitution might help, but it's also problematic.

Certainly the getting laid discussion has some merit; many young men are socially disabled and alienated, and require some kind of remedial social training aside from one wierd tricks and neg hits. Their need for human contact and occasional explosive frustration isn't monstrous.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Yes but firearms are only so high up on the chart because they're so common and effective as a method of killing a single person, you really need to control for availability before you... :downsgun:

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Moxie posted:

I think it's true that social isolation and romantic failure motivates a lot of these shooters. Obviously liberal application of pity loving is not a female imperative. Safe and legal prostitution might help, but it's also problematic.

Certainly the getting laid discussion has some merit; many young men are socially disabled and alienated, and require some kind of remedial social training aside from one wierd tricks and neg hits. Their need for human contact and occasional explosive frustration isn't monstrous.

a large portion of this is overt commercial sexualization of the female body, many men drive themselves nuts trying to score more desirable women than they can reasonably form relationships with out of a need for external validation because having sex with or dating an attractive women brings positive social benefits to males independent of the relationship itself

or in other words a lot of these dudes could get laid if they lowered their standards a bit. elliot roger was pretty hopelessly weird and angry but a lot of his frustration stemmed from a lack of sex overall but in his own words, the only sex he wanted was from wealthy white models. the same constant display of extraordinarily attractive women as the baseline of female beauty that drives many women's lack of self esteem and positive body image also drives many men to pursue an unrealistically high standard of female beauty in a partner

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU
I think that'd just lead to more sexual partners getting murdered by unhinged individuals.

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