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Gorilla Salad posted:Did you miss the part where Rick gave Jerry and Beth a huge roll of unmarked, non sequential bank notes at the start of the episode and told them to go buy icecream? I thought that was a joke about how expensive Coldstone Creamery is. My favourite Beth/Jerry moment is Beth cracking up at Jerry's lame comments he makes about the collars at the end of the episode. Every one of those jokes should have made her eyes roll but she laughed along anyway because he was so nice about the deer.
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Light Gun Man posted:because they spent a shitload of money there somehow Light Gun Man posted:I mentioned that at the end, yes. I was addressing the "somehow". EDIT: Quotes wihtin quotes get messy, really quick.
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Klungar posted:Dan Harmon is getting divorced, Already? I haven't been paying attention, but I kind of thought he got married less than a year ago.
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I thought that was a joke about how expensive Coldstone Creamery is. If I'm remembering correctly I believe the joke was about how they ring a bell if you tip, he thought they rang a bell because he tipped so much.
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prefect posted:I thought Bird Person and Tammy were happy and a great couple, and this episode is just the worst. In memory of happier times  
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Oct 12, 2015 09:22
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Klungar posted:Dan Harmon is getting divorced, Really puts the murder of Bird Person by his teenage bride in a new light...
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Troubadour posted:Really puts the murder of Bird Person by his teenage bride in a new light... He's nearing infertility?
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Oct 12, 2015 11:06
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rydiafan posted:He's had at least one each season. Rescuing his family from Cronenburgs, and saving Beth from his perception of Beth. If there's one thing that Rick and Jerry have in common, it's their occasional fleeting moments of empathy or lack thereof.
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Frostwerks posted:He's nearing infertility? Well you know animators, sit all day and it destorys any blood flow, that's why they call it a widow maker profession...for your balls.
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This has probably been pointed out already, but I was just re-watching some R&M and noticed that in the episode where Rick falls in with Unity, they show just a couple frames of the TV show that Unity was making for Rick, and of course its Community I'm pretty sure this show has references all over the place that I'm missing. I keep catching little things here and there. I think Harmon said that there was some cameo in Blips & Chitz but I couldn't find it. Also in case it wasn't pointed out earlier, Dan Harmon was on Drunk History talking about cocaine, and that was extremely entertaining.
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sweetmercifulcrap posted:I'm not sure how I feel about Earth joining the galactic federation. The show already addressed having sci-fi stuff on Earth by having the characters not really question it. But having Earth be "normal", I thought, provided a nice balance to the sci-fi. This show should also avoid becoming Futurama 2.0 and this sort of puts it closer to that. Thing is the show can always hit the reset button and go to another alternate universe. They've already done that once. Actually I was kinda wondering why Rick doesn't just do that again, Beth and Jerry would probably resist leaving their "home dimension" even more than Morty did, but you'd think they'd still get over it and prefer it to the galactic federation Earth, and you'd think Rick would just tell them to deal with it. But Rick seems to be pretty depressed at the same time, with bird-person shot and who knows what happened to Squanchy, he may just not give a gently caress anymore. We've seen him be borderline suicidal in the past, (both selfishly and selflessly) so maybe he's just giving up at this point. I'm hoping/expecting that the first episode of the next season is the family busting Rick out of prison and earning his appreciation in the process, but we'll see. Also interesting that Rick didn't try to appeal to the council of Ricks since they were created to counter the government, but I guess he figured they wouldn't help him since he's always gone against the council. Or maybe it just felt too hypocritical? One thing I've been wondering is whether the Rick & Morty we watch are even the same R&M every episode. They could really easily switch to an alternate universe each episode without us really noticing. But there does seem to be a consistent narrative going on and having each episode be different would generally mess that up, although with an infinite universe world not necessarily. E: I always thought Bird-person was a joke on Birdman, but apparently its a play on Buck Rogers' The Hawk. Which I guess may have been where Birdman was a parody of? Jeeze. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Oct 12, 2015 15:49
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Zaphod42 posted:This has probably been pointed out already, but I was just re-watching some R&M and noticed that in the episode where Rick falls in with Unity, they show just a couple frames of the TV show that Unity was making for Rick, and of course its Community Jerry (maybe someone else) says "duh-doy" in the first season.
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Anaconda Rifle posted:Jerry (maybe someone else) says "duh-doy" in the first season. In the pilot. Morty asks his dad if he is actually slow and that was Jerry's tactful response. "Well duh-doy, son."
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Oct 12, 2015 16:05
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Zaphod42 posted:This has probably been pointed out already, but I was just re-watching some R&M and noticed that in the episode where Rick falls in with Unity, they show just a couple frames of the TV show that Unity was making for Rick, and of course its Community don't you mean CommUnity
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Excelzior posted:don't you mean CommUnity  Oh, also during the council of Ricks episode, one of the portals he opens has a mug with a ? mark on it float through, and apparently during some episode of Gravity Falls they open a portal and the same mug falls through it. Cross-show continuity! (I don't really watch Gravity Falls) I love the Council of Ricks episode.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Already? I haven't been paying attention, but I kind of thought he got married less than a year ago. If dude is half as insufferable as he seems to be in interviews then it's a miracle someone stayed with him long enough to even reach the altar.
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Zaphod42 posted:
Yeah, the mug flies through a portal in Gravity Falls and flies out the portal in R&M.
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Zaphod42 posted:This has probably been pointed out already, but I was just re-watching some R&M and noticed that in the episode where Rick falls in with Unity, they show just a couple frames of the TV show that Unity was making for Rick, and of course its Community "Make them make fun of the blonde. Now make them have sex on the table. Cancel it! Now bring it back! Okay, I'm bored." Community told in 24 words.
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Random thought. The Birdperson and Squancy we know aren't the ones Rick knew. Rick replaced their friend. I mean unless he met them after leaving the Cronenbergverse they aren't the friends he had there, just really similar people. Rick also got depressed because a hive mind he'd never actually met before dumped him while thinking he was someone else. Then again Ricks replace others with similar substitutes often enough to have Morty coupons so he likely doesn't care.
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xanthan posted:Random thought. The Birdperson and Squancy we know aren't the ones Rick knew. Rick replaced their friend. I mean unless he met them after leaving the Cronenbergverse they aren't the friends he had there, just really similar people. Rick also got depressed because a hive mind he'd never actually met before dumped him while thinking he was someone else. Yeah Rick is somebody who understands the full meaning of the multiverse unlike pretty much everybody else, a common thread of the show is that he's started to see life from a very weird perspective. After the cronenbergverse when they take over the places of their former selves, it really traumatizes Morty for awhile (and he even talks about it with Summer later, which is a twist on the episodic format into more of a continuous story) but the whole time Rick couldn't care less. He just casually buries his own corpse, walks inside, grabs a beer that he knows is in the fridge (even though its not his fridge) and sits down on the couch like nothing ever happened. Although sometimes I worry that Harmon has written himself into a wall with the infinite multiverse thing. If its too easy to just keep hitting that reset button it can create plot holes. Like I said, why didn't Rick just take his family to another alternate universe after the wedding? Heck, he could even go to another universe where he himself was captured by the police already so that way the police wouldn't be looking for him!  The whole thing is insane. The only thing that holds it together is Rick's apathy, which does actually excuse a lot. If he's really suicidal or nihilistic then he may just not care to "fix" things even though he could.
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rick searched for a universe that was incredibly similar to his own, to the point where everything up to that moment had happened except he found a way to de-cronenberg the world - hence why he knew everything would basically be the same I mean there's a reason he specifically mentioned he couldn't do this many more times when there is an infinite amount of alternate universes out there aaaaand we've just given this whole thing more thought than the show creators want us to.
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One nitpick for me, when they're going to all the different planets that are Earth-like but not in the galactic federation, they land on one planet which seems pretty nice... until they realize that EVERYTHING is on the cob. Rick looks at the atomic structure of the planet's atoms and they're even on the cob. Its a funny throw-away joke, but it doesn't really make sense. How does a planet have its own atomic structure? If they went into an alternate universe, I'd totally buy that an alternate universe had "on-the-cob" atoms, whatever that means. But how do you merge a single planet of cob-atoms into a universe of normal-atoms? The physics just doesn't add up. And what was even so bad about that planet anyways? Rick sounds really concerned, he's like panicking that they need to leave the cob-world asap. Why? I guess its left as an unknown, or maybe he just realized that cob-atoms would have some negative consequence to their normal atoms or some advanced genius science. Although for that matter the whole thing with Rick's spaceship's battery violates the rules of thermodynamics. Well, I guess if it was more of a pocket dimension instead of just shrunken down inside the battery then you could get around it? They don't go into much detail about how it works and that's for the best. Excelzior posted:rick searched for a universe that was incredibly similar to his own, to the point where everything up to that moment had happened except he found a way to de-cronenberg the world - hence why he knew everything would basically be the same I dunno, the show's definitely meant to make you think. Its not a dumb show. It really messes with your expectations for a light-hearted narrative, it often makes you think its going to zig and then it zags. Another "inconsistency" is that Evil Rick mentions that he catalogued all the Ricks by how evil they were, but if there's infinite universes then you could never catalog all the infinite Ricks. Between any two given Ricks you'd have infinite other Ricks who were between them in evil-ness. But earlier in the episode they do mention "of all the Ricks in the finite central curve" which is actually pretty clever, and makes it sound like there's some kind of cardinality of Ricks. fount of knowledge posted:"Make them make fun of the blonde. Now make them have sex on the table. Cancel it! Now bring it back! Okay, I'm bored." Yeah its perfect. Also nice to see Harmon having a laugh at all the Community drama. (cancel it! now bring it back!) Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Zaphod42 posted:One nitpick for me, when they're going to all the different planets that are Earth-like but not in the galactic federation, they land on one planet which seems pretty nice... until they realize that EVERYTHING is on the cob. Rick looks at the atomic structure of the planet's atoms and they're even on the cob. Because that planet is one kernel, or just part of a kernel, on a much larger cob that would be eaten by something. The planet itself was corn.
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Imasalmon posted:Because that planet is one kernel, or just part of a kernel, on a much larger cob that would be eaten by something. The planet itself was corn. Yeaaaaah I dunno. That's weird. Again if it was another dimension I would totally buy that, but being just one planet in our universe makes it seem pretty weird. Like I said its a nitpick at best. Then again there was that fantasy fairyland world with the giants up the beanstalk, although they're really not clear on whether the portals they're taking are taking them to other places in our universe or other universes. The thing about the wedding is they take a spaceship (both to the wedding and from) so we know its in the same consistent universe. That brings me to another nitpick. Does it seem coincidental that the Jerry daycare center is in Rick C-137's dimension? They just fly there with a spaceship. But Rick mentions he's not the rick that had the idea for the daycare. Shouldn't they have to take a portal to get there?
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Oct 12, 2015 17:42
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Zaphod42 posted:Heck, he could even go to another universe where he himself was captured by the police already so that way the police wouldn't be looking for him! Because A) his portal gun was broken and B) he's grown fond of the family in this multiverse and doesn't want to just leave and let them suffer. Sure they aren't his original family, but he's bonded with this version of his grandchildren and seen just how much this version of his daughter cares about him. They're no longer just interchangeable meatsacks, they've become something real and meaningful to him and he's willing to make his life worse to make their lives better. In other words: Rick hosed up, he started giving a poo poo and that's why he's in jail now instead of getting drunk and banging alien broads in a parallel universe.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeaaaaah I dunno. That's weird. Again if it was another dimension I would totally buy that, but being just one planet in our universe makes it seem pretty weird. Ugh can you stop please
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I dropped this show for a while because the first episode was kind of unimpressive and too mean-spirited. But it's gotten fantastic afterwards (at episode 4). It has the comedy of Futurama, the willingness of stuff like early Adventure Time to thrown in everything, and still manages to keep it somehow grounded.
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Zaphod42 posted:Does it seem coincidental that the Jerry daycare center is in Rick C-137's dimension? They just fly there with a spaceship. But Rick mentions he's not the rick that had the idea for the daycare. Shouldn't they have to take a portal to get there? No, because he said it was a cross-dimensional asteroid- it probably appears in every reality if you know where to look, which Rick does, because the Rick who made the Jerry day care probably put out an ad. But we don't need this spelled out because it's not important. Also planet-on-a-cob is a throwaway gag you aren't meant to pick apart the whys. If you really needed a reason for Rick to flee, it's because he knows that if you live on a cob planet long enough YOU start to become on-a-cob. Person-on-a-cob.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Because A) his portal gun was broken and B) he's grown fond of the family in this multiverse and doesn't want to just leave and let them suffer. Sure they aren't his original family, but he's bonded with this version of his grandchildren and seen just how much this version of his daughter cares about him. They're no longer just interchangeable meatsacks, they've become something real and meaningful to him and he's willing to make his life worse to make their lives better. I forgot about the portal gun breaking which is obviously important, yeah. But I'm not saying he'd leave his family behind. I'm saying take the family with him to another universe. I guess if he was in jail but the rest of the family was free in another universe that wouldn't work, but with infinite universes there's gotta be one where Rick gets captured and the family gets killed or something, so you just take their places like Rick & Morty did before. And yeah, it does seem like him giving a poo poo is the difference. He's clearly sacrificing himself for them. I just figure he'd find a smarter way to fix things, since he's got such godlike power. Which is why I was saying his depression or nihilism is the only plot fix, he just doesn't care to fix things anymore. He's just given up. I mean even without his portal gun, once upon a time he didn't have one either. He could build another. But he doesn't. Just Offscreen posted:No, because he said it was a cross-dimensional asteroid- it probably appears in every reality if you know where to look, which Rick does, because the Rick who made the Jerry day care probably put out an ad. But we don't need this spelled out because it's not important. Ah, I forgot/missed the cross-dimensional asteroid line. That makes sense then, yeah. Perfect place for a Jerry daycare. I knew Rick mentioned it was a secret place if you knew where to look, but I missed the "cross-dimensional" line. BravestOfTheLamps posted:I dropped this show for a while because the first episode was kind of unimpressive and too mean-spirited. But it's gotten fantastic afterwards (at episode 4). It has the comedy of Futurama, the willingness of stuff like early Adventure Time to thrown in everything, and still manages to keep it somehow grounded. I end up liking it way more than I ever did Futurama or Adventure Time both. Futurama was entertaining but wasn't very laugh-out-loud funny very often, while Rick & Morty often has me laughing my rear end off. And Adventure Time was creative but a little too random for me, while Rick and Morty seems really random it manages to maintain an important thread of logic. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Also, how could they hear the Screaming Sun if there was this huge swath of vacuum between it and the planet? Horrible show, would not watch again.
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Zaphod42 posted:I mean even without his portal gun, once upon a time he didn't have one either. He could build another. But he doesn't. I made this post before, but if you want an in-universe explanation just assume that the portal gun utilizes that super rare interdimensional crystal and probably other non-standard parts that he wouldn't be able to just get anywhere. He would probably have to spend several months/years travelling around evading the Federation and probably sneaking into Fed controlled planets/sectors to get these parts. Meanwhile his family would just be living on the tiny planet or else accompanying him into life or death situations. The other alternative is that he turns himself in and the family is back safe on Earth in under a week. I mean, most of this stuff doesn't matter and is just done for good storytelling, but if you want logical explanations for everything at least make the attempt to think it out yourself.
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Rexides posted:Also, how could they hear the Screaming Sun if there was this huge swath of vacuum between it and the planet? Well since the sun is screaming and also expelling a tremendous amount of light/matter as suns do, it's conceivable that the audio waves could piggyba
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Rexides posted:Also, how could they hear the Screaming Sun if there was this huge swath of vacuum between it and the planet? Duh, it wasn't actually a far away giant star screaming, it was a smaller screaming ball of fire that orbits in the lower atmosphere.
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Guy A. Person posted:I made this post before, but if you want an in-universe explanation just assume that the portal gun utilizes that super rare interdimensional crystal and probably other non-standard parts that he wouldn't be able to just get anywhere. He would probably have to spend several months/years travelling around evading the Federation and probably sneaking into Fed controlled planets/sectors to get these parts. Meanwhile his family would just be living on the tiny planet or else accompanying him into life or death situations. The other alternative is that he turns himself in and the family is back safe on Earth in under a week. Um, ouch? Good one? I don't see what's wrong with discussing these things. What else are we going to post? "good episode" "yes, that was a good one" Yeah "it would take a long time and he didn't want to leave his family alone" is a fair answer. But I still think his suicidal state is significant. Rexides posted:Also, how could they hear the Screaming Sun if there was this huge swath of vacuum between it and the planet? Well something something solar wind causing sound when it his the something something atmosphere... Seriously though this kind of argument is really loving stupid. It comes up whenever you discuss any sci-fi or fantasy setting, some jerk always has to say "lol how does it work? Its magic duh" answer. Look, fiction is fiction, and you can make up whatever rules you want. But then you have to be internally consistent. Making poo poo up in a fantasy world is allowed, but if your fantasy world contradicts itself that's just sloppy writing. The screaming sun thing they don't try to explain, so that's fine.
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Zaphod42 posted:I end up liking it way more than I ever did Futurama or Adventure Time both. Futurama was entertaining but wasn't very laugh-out-loud funny very often, while Rick & Morty often has me laughing my rear end off. And Adventure Time was creative but a little too random for me, while Rick and Morty seems really random it manages to maintain an important thread of logic. I especially like how it's so far stuck to a disorienting, dystopic feel, when Futurama dropped that aspect early on. Including the family drama was a masterstroke.
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I'm liking Interdimensional Cable 2 more and more in retrospect. Even if the skits aren't as good overall as Rixty Minutes, it's ridiculously quotable.Just Offscreen posted:Well since the sun is screaming and also expelling a tremendous amount of light/matter as suns do, it's conceivable that the audio waves could piggyba A professor of mine does research on these crazy looking crystals that make sound when you shoot them with a laser. Philip Rivers fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Um, ouch? Good one? I don't see what's wrong with discussing these things. What else are we going to post? Sorry, I didn't mean that to come off as antagonistic or insulting as it did. Was just saying, most of this stuff is thought out at least well enough that something like "just build a new portal gun and pop over to another dimension" is not going to be a catch-all solution. I certainly wasn't saying don't discuss things.
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Philip Rivers posted:I'm liking Interdimensional Cable 2 more and more in retrospect. Even if the skits aren't as good overall as Rixty Minutes, it's ridiculously quotable. 1 personal space 2 personal space 3 personal space 4 stay out of my personal space
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Philip Rivers posted:I'm liking Interdimensional Cable 2 more and more in retrospect. Even if the skits aren't as good overall as Rixty Minutes, it's ridiculously quotable. I'm not sure which I like better, How they make Plumbuses or Gazorpazorpfield. (Or ants-in-my-eyes-johnson. So much gold in those episodes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LJtG2gXSc I also really love how the show's audio editor doesn't mind leaving in partially off takes, there's several times in the show where you can hear Justin Roiland either start laughing or just kinda ad-lib something, it doesn't always sound professional, but they leave that poo poo in there. I love it. It happens the most during the original Rixty Minutes with the Two Brothers show. He's clearly ad-libbing the gently caress out of that, and he starts cracking up. They even lampshade it in the show, they mention "Wow, interdimensional cable sure has a different tone to it, like almost improvisational"  "Now give me my loving enchiladas-<laughs>" I also love how they touch on already doing the inter-dimensional cable. "what are you doing?" "I dunno, I thought we pretty much nailed it the first time"
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