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Whoever plays Charn also played Mawdryn in Mawdryn Undead and Paul in Robots of Death, if the voice is any judge.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Oh god, someone please dub Duane Benzie's lines over The Fisher King. Really, quoting Benzie's lines doesn't do them justice. "Why don't you piss off back to Romford? Eh? EH?! .... Clever girl." Elrond Hubbard posted:Whoever plays Charn also played Mawdryn in Mawdryn Undead and Paul in Robots of Death, if the voice is any judge. Also the Doctor in Full Fathom Five. Good ol' David Collings.
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Oct 13, 2015 09:27
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I like how the Doctor's amp was a Magpie. Also, Maisie Williams is the first person who appeared on Game of Thrones before being on Doctor Who? Not counting Walder Frey because he's both a minor character and is probably better known from Harry Potter. Spoilered in case someone gets upset at casting spoilers relating to the next episode.
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Oct 13, 2015 09:37
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twistedmentat posted:I like how the Doctor's amp was a Magpie. Also, Maisie Williams is the first person who appeared on Game of Thrones before being on Doctor Who? Not counting Walder Frey because he's both a minor character and is probably better known from Harry Potter. Paul Kaye (Prentis, in the story just gone) was in Game of Thrones prior to this too, but only as a small character (Thoros of Myr).
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Oct 13, 2015 09:41
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:Paul Kaye (Prentis, in the story just gone) was in Game of Thrones prior to this too, but only as a small character (Thoros of Myr). But he was also Dennis Pennis and various other roles for years.
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Oct 13, 2015 09:42
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Liam Cunningham and Tobias Menzies were in the Ice Warrior episode a few seasons ago. Iain Glen was in the Angel two parter. Harry Lloyd and Thomas Brodie-Sangster were in the Family of Blood. E: Julian Glover was in City of Death! Aside from the first two they were all on Who first though. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Oct 13, 2015 09:44
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Basically over a long enough time-span every British actor will be on Doctor Who at some point.
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Oct 13, 2015 09:56
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:Basically over a long enough time-span every British actor will be on Doctor Who at some point. I'd better get into acting soon. I hope to be the 16th Doctor.
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Oct 13, 2015 10:02
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I loved this episode but O'Donnell's death did feel a bit cheap and disappointing. I still teared up when Bennett was talking about it at the end, though, predictably!
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Oct 13, 2015 10:12
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GonSmithe posted:I'm pretty sure Peter Capaldi probably asked to play the guitar because he plays the guitar and thought it would be cool if his Doctor could play guitar. That doesn't make it a good idea.
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Oct 13, 2015 10:58
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The_Doctor posted:But he was also Dennis Pennis and various other roles for years. So? The question was just GoT before Who, not GoT as their first role then Who as their second.
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Oct 13, 2015 11:00
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Mr Beens posted:That doesn't make it a good idea. Well no, that in particular doesn't, but the fact remains that it is.
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Oct 13, 2015 11:08
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I liked it. Eye-rolled a bit at vibration-o-vision.  I heard about dancers who feel the vibration of the beat of the music to keep time when I was a kid, so I expected her to be able to feel the vibration from the heavy chunk of metal scraping along the ground. I guess the thick military boots muffled it a bit for her. Doctor Who is also a show for kids, and some kids won't have thought about the implications of being deaf and paying more attention to your other senses when you lose one, so telegraphing that isn't that bad. Likewise the strait up announcing the paradox at the beginning and end of the episode. For long time fans of sci fi (and anyone old enough to have watched Bill and Ted's and the Back to the Future movies) this is old hat. But for an important segment of the audience this is a completely novel line of thought. When I was 10 this would have blown my mind. And stretching your brain to consider the implications of paradoxes rather than just going 'space magic!' is a good thing. I'm willing to give the show a pass on spending a couple minutes having Grandpa Who spell things out to make sure that segment of the audience gets it.  As for the Lobster King, come on, that is totally going to be a returning species. No way do they put that much work into a costume and only use it once. They didn't over-saturate him here so we'll want to see more. Always leave them wanting more.
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Started listening to The Doom Coalition this morning. Spoilers for audiophiles. I am loving the bad guy so far - a Time Lord was locked away for being psychotic because each time he regenerated, he had “regenerative dissonance” that caused him to keep his old personalities as well as his new one, and they’d argue with each other like Gollum/Smeagol. Turns out his Eighth one is the only decent one and all of the others seem to despise him. Great name too – The Eleven, and the guy playing him (Mark Bonnar from Line of Duty) does separate voices for each one. This is such a great movie that still holds up today. CobiWann fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 13, 2015 11:49
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Am I the only one who googles something when the Doctor tells me to google it? How did no one post this yet? Radio Times explanation of the bootstrap paradox: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-10/doctor-who-what-is-the-bootstrap-paradox 
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Oct 13, 2015 11:53
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CobiWann posted:This is such a great movie that still holds up today. I was actually pleased to see Who finally implicitly acknowledging Bill & Ted as canon by also featuring a Time Lord with an electric guitar. Seriously, if you were going to adapt Who for an American audience you simply couldn't make a better job of it. It's all heart, and it's a pure historical!
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Angela Christine posted:Am I the only one who googles something when the Doctor tells me to google it? How did no one post this yet? That is a surprisingly well-written piece., especially for the Radio Times.
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Oct 13, 2015 12:40
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misadventurous posted:Well that was pretty poo poo!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't care for this episode. All of the plot hooks just dropped (the phone not mattering at all, intruding on his own timeline not mattering because it was just a hologram anyway, the "it's a paradox! Weird...anyway...", etc.) felt way off. So ghosts aren't real? Or the Fisher King used their "souls"? Doesn't that imply ghosts are indeed real, just that he grabbed them and used them for...a communications relay? That's weak. The Fisher King looked great in profile, but pretty awful straight on. And yeah, the Doctor won with a trick that was half a step above, "Made ya look." The setup was intriguing, and the special effects were great. But that's about it. Also, we're two stories in, and both have the Doctor coming to terms with his own death, only to say, "Nah, never mind." Is every story this season going to involve the Doctor coming to terms with the concept of his own death, just to hand wave it away? And the guitar. My god, the guitar. Again, fine, I guess, to have the moment once, but two stories in a row hand jamming in Capaldi playing the guitar seems incredibly forced, and I don't really understand why. Did he learn to play in the off season, and they just said, "Eh, let's have the Doctor play the guitar in every story now. Why not, who gives a poo poo?" I'm really not liking this season so far. Wasn't this season supposed to be the Doctor and Clara finally comfortable and just having fun adventures? It's been dour, "I'm going to die" stories so far. It's like a rehash of the Trenzalore story line, but every week started and "resolved". Sure it's just two stories, but it's 4 episodes, which is 33% of the season. I want my fun adventures, dammit.
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Oct 13, 2015 15:18
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:Basically over a long enough time-span every British actor will be on Doctor Who at some point. I remember hearing it was "every English actor inevitably appears on The Bill and every Scottish actors inevitably appears on Taggart", but I've also heard that David Tennant auditioned for a part on Taggart something like four or five times and still never made it on. 
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Oct 13, 2015 15:28
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thrawn527 posted:Did he learn to play in the off season, and they just said, "Eh, let's have the Doctor play the guitar in every story now. Why not, who gives a poo poo?"  He was in a band with Craig Ferguson in the 70s.
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I know it's the nerdiest thing in the world, but an episode where 12 did indeed turn out to be the lead singer of John Smith and the Common Men* would make me very happy indeed. Bonus points if the Common Men were played by Capaldi's actual band from the 70s. *It's a fictional band mentioned on the radio in the first ever episode of Doctor Who, if you're pretending you don't know what I'm talking about
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vegetables posted:I know it's the nerdiest thing in the world, but an episode where 12 did indeed turn out to be the lead singer of John Smith and the Common Men* would make me very happy indeed. Bonus points if the Common Men were played by Capaldi's actual band from the 70s. He's already met them!
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He hasn't met John Smith himself, though, IIRC!
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Well, he can meet them again! And they can be different characters this time for, um, "time reasons".
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vegetables posted:Well, he can meet them again! And they can be different characters this time for, um, "time reasons". That's just lazy writing!
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:Paul Kaye (Prentis, in the story just gone) was in Game of Thrones prior to this too, but only as a small character (Thoros of Myr). Knowing Paul Kaye primarily from It's All Gone Pete Tong.... I had no idea that was him as Prentis!
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Wheat Loaf posted:I remember hearing it was "every English actor inevitably appears on The Bill and every Scottish actors inevitably appears on Taggart", but I've also heard that David Tennant auditioned for a part on Taggart something like four or five times and still never made it on. David Tennant was, however, on The Bill. A real one with the proper theme tune and opening sequence, too. And it opens with Polly Page being nice to someone in trouble. You can't get more proper The Bill than that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUDTNsADxc And he was so good they gave him a double-length special episode instead of the regular half-hour shots they were doing at the time. Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Trin Tragula posted:David Tennant was, however, on The Bill. A real one with the proper theme tune and opening sequence, too. And it opens with Polly Page being nice to someone in trouble. You can't get more proper The Bill than that. He's not actually in that bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDqRwnRIAq0 He's at the start of this bit
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thrawn527 posted:I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't care for this episode. All of the plot hooks just dropped (the phone not mattering at all, intruding on his own timeline not mattering because it was just a hologram anyway, the "it's a paradox! Weird...anyway...", etc.) felt way off. So ghosts aren't real? Or the Fisher King used their "souls"? Doesn't that imply ghosts are indeed real, just that he grabbed them and used them for...a communications relay? That's weak. The Fisher King looked great in profile, but pretty awful straight on. Pretty much agree 100% with all that. I liked the first part, disliked the second part for all of the reasons you state. I just want the characters to have some fun (but no guitars). I don't know why the Doctors death is a big thing so far this season - we just got over all that at the end of Smiths run, with his dealing with his last regeneration and all. The Doctor should be bouncing around with joy that he has a whole life (or more) that he shouldn't have had. It's the equivilent of surviving terminal cancer.
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Well so far Doctor's attitude towards death has been "meh I should be dead anyway" so maybe they'll stop. Also, I'm liking this season so far because it's just nice to see the Doctor not be an rear end in a top hat. Guitar and shades are fine, they're less annoying than constant attempts at new catchphrases.
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I had a weird dream the other night where RTD never left and the Doctor was being played by Zoe Ball for some reason.
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Chokes McGee posted:That's a very excellent question, and if you look over there at that enormously distracting thing, I believe you'll find your answer. This seems like it should be a quote from Matt Smith's Doctor.
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Oct 13, 2015 23:24
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vegetables posted:Well, he can meet them again! And they can be different characters this time for, um, "time reasons". That audio is very good, by the way. Nyssa gets to hang out with the NotBeatles in Hamburg while the Doctor is nearly murdered by BeatleMania.
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Gaz-L posted:That audio is very good, by the way. Nyssa gets to hang out with the NotBeatles in Hamburg while the Doctor is nearly murdered by BeatleMania. That is true, but it also features Mitch Benn. Luckily he's reined in his attempting-to-be-funny so he doesn't detract too much from the story as a whole though.
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 I went to Way Station in Brooklyn tonight. This happened. It was awesome.
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TL posted:
Damnit. I was just in Brooklyn a couple of weekends ago. I should plan my trips better. At least I made it to the Superhero Supply Co. "PULL TO OPEN" [Push]
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CobiWann posted:Started listening to The Doom Coalition this morning. Spoilers for audiophiles. That sounds awesome. I am pretty sure they used that concept in another audio, I think it was Trial of the Valeyard?
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thexerox123 posted:Knowing Paul Kaye primarily from It's All Gone Pete Tong.... I had no idea that was him as Prentis! I've worked with Kaye a couple of times, he's actually a very good actor, which as someone who grew up with Dennis Pennis, sort of surprised me. I saw he was doing adverts for online Casinos a few years back so I'm really glad he's bouncing upwards again. How many seasons of GoT has he not been in now? Now that's a show that loves dropping storylines.
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TL posted:
Man the Doctor regenerating into Regular Looking American Guy really was the death knell for the series
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I just realised that John Hurt is going to end up having played the Doctor in more things than Christopher Eccleston, which makes me kind of happy and sad at the same time.
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