CommieGIR posted:

Let me translate that for you

"I'm voting for regressive bullshit because my one linchpin issue makes me do stupid things like support a political group that actively seeks to undermine the entire country to prove a point."

You're wrong. You're not evil, but you are very stupid.

various cheeses posted:

Gun control was briefly removed as a plank of the democratic party, but now it's back and I don't care for it, so I'm not going to vote for it. Some senator made a bill that strengthens background checks and improves mental health reporting, but we shouldn't vote for it why? Does it not go far enough for you?

CommieGIR posted:

Let me translate that for you

"I'm voting for regressive bullshit because my one linchpin issue makes me do stupid things like support a political group that actively seeks to undermine the entire country to prove a point."

...

But considering you voting for a regressive party solely out of a single, very stupid issue makes you a part of the problem.

various cheeses posted:

Gun control was briefly removed as a plank of the democratic party, but now it's back and I don't care for it, so I'm not going to vote for it. Some senator made a bill that strengthens background checks and improves mental health reporting, but we shouldn't vote for it why? Does it not go far enough for you?

They blocked the CDC from doing gun control studies because last time it poo poo out a flimsy partisan study, people thought there may be a better use of money and time.

CommieGIR posted:

various cheeses posted:

So I should just throw up my hands and empty out my safe and say "oh well, such is the cost of progress!"?

various cheeses posted:

So I should just throw up my hands and empty out my safe and say "oh well, such is the cost of progress!"? When a dog shits on the floor, you tell it no. I'm telling your dog no. Try thinking independently a bit, instead of blindly following the party line.

various cheeses posted:

When a dog shits on the floor, you tell it no. I'm telling your dog no.

CommieGIR posted:

Agreed, but considering you voting for a regressive party solely out of a single, very stupid issue makes you a part of the problem.

various cheeses posted:

When a dog shits on the floor, you tell it no. I'm telling your dog no.

Jarmak posted:

Your posts are just loving precious "No one is trying to take away your guns because there's too much opposition to it, so stop being paranoid and opposing us taking away your guns!" and "You're a monster because you're not willing to give up this issue that I'm not willing to give up in order to support the greater good" are my favorites.

CommieGIR posted:

Seriously, where is the gigantic growing ironicat when I need it?

Jarmak posted:

I'd say being willing to lose votes needed for more important issues just to force through bad laws makes you part of the problem.

Your posts are just loving precious "No one is trying to take away your guns because there's too much opposition to it, so stop being paranoid and opposing us taking away your guns!" and "You're a monster because you're not willing to give up this issue that I'm not willing to give up in order to support the greater good" are my favorites.

CommieGIR posted:

Sooooooo, your solution is to poo poo on all our floors because we want to regulate your treat intake?

No, bad dog, go in the kennel.

various cheeses posted:

You seem pretty drat worked up over the fact that I decided to break rank with the democrats. Shame on me for having an independent thought in my head.

various cheeses posted:

You seem pretty drat worked up over the fact that I decided to break rank with the democrats. Shame on me for having an independent thought in my head.

xwing posted:

Ummm... the problem is there's clean floors and you're making GBS threads on the clean floor. Instead of teaching the dog to not poo poo on the floor your worried about what the dog is eating. Fuckin' brilliant.

CommieGIR posted:

Hmmmmm....where did I say "We want to take your guns"

Oh, that's right, you are just repeating the line about "Any gun control is the same thing as seizing all firearms"

Good one. From the mind that equated clocks and bombs.

various cheeses posted:

So I should just throw up my hands and empty out my safe and say "oh well, such is the cost of progress!"? When a dog shits on the floor, you tell it no. I'm telling your dog no. Try thinking independently a bit, instead of blindly following the party line.

various cheeses posted:

A safe is a tough buy if you're poor. I think the poor should have equal opportunity in exercising their rights. Of course, if you can afford one you should certainly put your guns in there. I sure as hell do.
Background checks are fine, and should be strengthened tbh.
Regular training/education is great too. Why not stick it in schools alongside sex ed - another thing people are stupid as hell about.

various cheeses posted:

You may not, but you're also not the guy driving the laws. How purposely dense do you need to be to believe that the extremist gun control side will magically shut up when a certain number of laws are passed?

CommieGIR posted:

Hmmmmm....where did I say "We want to take your guns"

Oh, that's right, you are just repeating the line about "Any gun control is the same thing as seizing all firearms"

Good one.

various cheeses posted:

You may not, but you're also not the guy driving the laws. How purposely dense do you need to be to believe that the extremist gun control side will magically shut up when a certain number of laws are passed?

Jarmak posted:

I simply don't believe you're posting in good faith anymore, like half of the posters on any given gunchat page support that view, you yourself conceded that many major politicians do but can't because its "not politically viable". Why the gently caress do you think its not politically viable?

Jarmak posted:

I simply don't believe you're posting in good faith anymore, like half of the posters on any given gunchat page support that view, you yourself conceded that many major politicians do but can't because its "not politically viable". Why the gently caress do you think its not politically viable?

Jarmak posted:

I simply don't believe you're posting in good faith anymore, like half of the posters on any given gunchat page support that view, you yourself conceded that many major politicians do but can't because its "not politically viable". Why the gently caress do you think its not politically viable?

Popular Thug Drink posted:

how is this not paranoid?

Popular Thug Drink posted:

i dont think anyone itt believes extremist gun owners will ever shut up, i mean you can't legislate away paranoia or conspiracy theories

Lemming posted:

...by voting for the party that's explicitly trying to restrict the poor and minorities from exercising their legal rights to things like voting and abortion, both of which are immeasurably more important than buy a dangerous toy.

Please stop pretending you give a poo poo about the poor. Just admit you are a selfish rear end in a top hat and don't give a poo poo about them, so you're voting R. Stop arguing in bad faith.

various cheeses posted:

I'll vote for democrats again when they pull their heads out of their asses on gun control. It's literally that simple. Make it happen folks.

CommieGIR posted:

....Kennel training. Look it up.

xwing posted:

I'm aware of kennel training... dogs don't want to poo poo in their kennel (home) but If you don't teach them to go outside kennel training isn't enough, they'll poo poo all over the floors when you're not looking. I've had plenty of dogs and I didn't need to kennel train them. If you take them outside immediately and often they get the idea, THAT poo poo IS FOR OUTSIDE!

CommieGIR posted:

Again, you are willing to drag the entire country to hell by voting for the Tea Party infested GOP.

Because of one issue.

No, mate, gently caress you.

CommieGIR posted:

About as dense as you thinking there will be a grand constitutional amendment removing the 2nd.

Thanks for loving us all because you are only concerned about a single issue.


Right. I'm the one posting in bad faith, not the guy who is repeatedly claiming he voted for an obstructionist party because of a single issue.

various cheeses posted:

You add nothing to this thread, so get the gently caress out of it please. There's a GBS one waiting for you. The dog lobbyist group was pretty funny at least.

various cheeses posted:

You sure are making me want to vote democrat now. Look how progressive you are.

Seriously, is this the response people should expect for refusing to be nudged forward on every progressive-backed issue? You're one hell of an ambassador for your cause.

Jarmak posted:

I've never voted R, but I will if I feel like the Democrats need to be reminded to gently caress off with gun control, most likely at the state level though cause the national level GOP scares me too much and gun control is mostly a state issue anyway.

various cheeses posted:

Seriously, is this the response people should expect for refusing to be nudged forward on every progressive-backed issue? You're one hell of an ambassador for your cause.

various cheeses posted:

I'll vote for democrats again when they pull their heads out of their asses on gun control. It's literally that simple. Make it happen folks.

Jarmak posted:

Again its really hypocritical to accuse people of selling out over a single issue when you're perfectly willing to abandon their votes because they don't agree with you on the same single issue.

CommieGIR posted:

Its almost as if.....you don't know how the government works, since the State level GOP tends to reflect the National level.

Go ask Kansas and Wisconsin how their little experiments are going.


"I'm gonna vote straight GOP ticket because gently caress YOU DAD."

Snowman Crossing posted:

The best part of all of this is I get to negate the vote of someone who is probably supremely well-informed, has the best interests of the public in mind, and supports righteous progressive policies like single-payer healthcare and education subsidies, simply because their party won't drop gun control as a platform.

If I can't have thirty round magazines, nobody gets to have nice things. Go gently caress yourselves.

Lemming posted:

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm saying that you earlier made the argument that you think "the poor should have an equal opportunity in exercising their rights." You clearly don't really believe that, though, because you're willing to vote for the party that has already and continues to violate their rights in a non-hypothetical way, because of your pet issue. I'm calling you out on that.

If you're going to argue for no gun control, at least be honest with us. "I care about having literally zero restrictions or impositions in any way on owning and using my shiny metal toy over the right of others to vote and the right of women to have control over their own bodies."

Snowman Crossing posted:

The best part of all of this is I get to negate the vote of someone who is probably supremely well-informed, has the best interests of the public in mind, and supports righteous progressive policies like single-payer healthcare and education subsidies, simply because their party won't drop gun control as a platform.

If I can't have thirty round magazines, nobody gets to have nice things. Go gently caress yourselves.

various cheeses posted:

I think the anti-abortion crowd is just as lovely as the anti-gun crowd. The problem is that the democrats were there, they were so close to putting gun control to rest, but unfortunately they went full retard and are pushing it again. Also I never said there should be zero restrictions or impositions, there absolutely should be, just not to the level you want them. I get that it doesn't affect you in any way, but it affects me - so I'm not going to vote for it until they give up.