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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

neonnoodle posted:

Now that I think of it, it is solely due to hardcore white supremacy that all these assholes don't just embrace Confucianism.

Nah, Nick Land and co love that kinda poo poo

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Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
There is literally nothing that I can safely enjoy without the threat of it being also being misinterpreted by idiots.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Found it

https://twitter.com/st_rev/status/570293549960458240

I'm a modern day descendant of great skeptics like Hume and Zhuangzi. They taught me to never question the narrative my friends are buying into!

quote:

Anti-authoritarian, grimbertarian, law-abiding anarchist, right-intersectionalist, antisocialist, SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. Magneto was right.

"Right-intersectionalist"? I'm trying to parse that but every time I try some part of my brain screams in terror, like understanding what he means will be the psychological equivalent of putting my hand on a hot stovetop.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



What's a bit funny is how "hosed up" has become a completely generic lexical placeholder for "I think this thing or state of affairs is bad, and surely, you must agree."

Also, his analogy sucks, because the police have legal authority and violence powers. But we knew that.

Curvature of Earth
Sep 9, 2011

Projected cost of
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Heresiarch posted:

quote:

Anti-authoritarian, grimbertarian, law-abiding anarchist, right-intersectionalist, antisocialist, SubGenius, Zhuangist, white-hat troll. Magneto was right.

Magneto is a Holocaust survivor trying to defend a hated minority from abuse, harassment, murder, and eugenics programs. He's a revolutionary and a radical, but not a reactionary in the slightest. That would be Colonel Stryker.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Found it

https://twitter.com/st_rev/status/570293549960458240

I'm a modern day descendant of great skeptics like Hume and Zhuangzi. They taught me to never question the narrative my friends are buying into!

jesus gently caress that literally the most retarded GG analogy I've ever seen

like, no joke

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Heresiarch posted:

There is literally nothing that I can safely enjoy without the threat of it being also being misinterpreted by idiots.

Borges?

quote:

"Right-intersectionalist"? I'm trying to parse that but every time I try some part of my brain screams in terror, like understanding what he means will be the psychological equivalent of putting my hand on a hot stovetop.

I've been sitting here trying to figure it out for about 20 minutes, and the only thing I can think of is it's like intersectionality but backwards. So you can be oppressed as a white person or a man, but being oppressed as a white man is more than the sum of those parts?

Curvature of Earth posted:



Magneto is a Holocaust survivor trying to defend a hated minority from abuse, harassment, murder, and eugenics programs. He's a revolutionary and a radical, but not a reactionary in the slightest. That would be Colonel Stryker.

To be fair, the anti-authoritarian anarchist is probably not a self-described reactionary. But he's also an anti-authoritarian claiming Magneto was right sooooooooooooo

Patrick Spens has a new favorite as of 07:43 on Oct 9, 2015

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
For those people who don't read children's books like I do, "Magneto Was Right" was a thing from Grant Morrison's run on "New X-Men" and was basically Che t-shirts for rebellious mutant teenagers. It was meant to be stupid and tasteless and seeing anybody use it unironically is hysterical.


It seems like so far Borges has occupied the same kind of space as Foucault and the semioticians and the like, all of which seem to be anathema to self-described rationalists etc.

They get misinterpreted by idiots on the other side of the spectrum instead.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Race Realists posted:

jesus gently caress that literally the most retarded GG analogy I've ever seen

like, no joke

He forgot the bit where the townsfolk lie to the military to get them to call in an airstrike on the police.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Urbit. (Sorry.)

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Nah, Nick Land and co love that kinda poo poo

Didn't Confucius at some point ask the emperor to murder everyone that claimed to know and do his ways until there was only one old geezer that quoted everything by heart?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Heresiarch posted:

"Right-intersectionalist"? I'm trying to parse that but every time I try some part of my brain screams in terror, like understanding what he means will be the psychological equivalent of putting my hand on a hot stovetop.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't know what it means, either. He's most likely just trying to use a leftist buzzword in a half-rear end attempt to troll social justic skeleton warriors.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/606310421260300288 Feminists don't understand intersectionality because they don't care about black men being raped in prison.

I mean I, personally, have seen feminists bring up prison rape as a serious issue many times, but I guess that doesn't count because I don't know, grrr Sarkeesian.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

So that means the guy is totally in favour of ending the war on drugs, privatisation of prisons and the unjust incarceration of black men right?

Just like when MRAs bring up that males have more workplace deaths and it means they're totally pro Unions and in favour of better workers rights, yeah?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


The Vosgian Beast posted:

Nah, Nick Land and co love that kinda poo poo

The Book of Lord Shang is like the ur-Dark Enlightenment piece.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Heresiarch posted:

It seems like so far Borges has occupied the same kind of space as Foucault and the semioticians and the like, all of which seem to be anathema to self-described rationalists etc.

They get misinterpreted by idiots on the other side of the spectrum instead.

I thought Borges was pretty right-wing in his personal political views.

Edit: I checked, and he wasn't as right-wing as I remembered him being, but still definitely not a Foucault-style left-winger.

Silver2195 has a new favorite as of 16:12 on Oct 9, 2015

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

massive spider posted:

So that means the guy is totally in favour of ending the war on drugs, privatisation of prisons and the unjust incarceration of black men right?

Just like when MRAs bring up that males have more workplace deaths and it means they're totally pro Unions and in favour of better workers rights, yeah?

Object-level issues, not worth bringing up except when pwning feminists.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Heresiarch posted:

It seems like so far Borges has occupied the same kind of space as Foucault and the semioticians and the like, all of which seem to be anathema to self-described rationalists etc.

They get misinterpreted by idiots on the other side of the spectrum instead.

Yeah, that post was 1/3 question, and 2/3 hope you would link someone calling for a real world Lottery of Babylon.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Silver2195 posted:

I thought Borges was pretty right-wing in his personal political views.

Edit: I checked, and he wasn't as right-wing as I remembered him being, but still definitely not a Foucault-style left-winger.

It's not about the writer's political views themselves, it's about the intellectual space the writer's ideas take up. I've always felt that the core of Borges' writing has been about maps versus territories (although this is certainly completely debatable), which is the same general sort of intellectual space occupied by post-structuralists, semioticians, etc. All of this kind of thinking (from Borges to Baudrillard) is dismissed out of hand by the kinds of people this thread writes about because the idea that they might not actually be describing objective reality with their language would be terrifying to them if they let it get close.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Heresiarch posted:

It's not about the writer's political views themselves, it's about the intellectual space the writer's ideas take up. I've always felt that the core of Borges' writing has been about maps versus territories (although this is certainly completely debatable), which is the same general sort of intellectual space occupied by post-structuralists, semioticians, etc. All of this kind of thinking (from Borges to Baudrillard) is dismissed out of hand by the kinds of people this thread writes about because the idea that they might not actually be describing objective reality with their language would be terrifying to them if they let it get close.

And yet we have the computer language performance art known as Urbit.

Sailor Viy
Aug 4, 2013

And when I can swim no longer, if I have not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world into some vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise.

Heresiarch posted:

For those people who don't read children's books like I do, "Magneto Was Right" was a thing from Grant Morrison's run on "New X-Men" and was basically Che t-shirts for rebellious mutant teenagers. It was meant to be stupid and tasteless and seeing anybody use it unironically is hysterical.

Isn't that the comic where Magneto literally puts all the normal humans in concentration camps and tries to exterminate them?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Race Realists posted:

jesus gently caress that literally the most retarded GG analogy I've ever seen

like, no joke

Actually it's about ethics in... murder journalism?

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Sailor Viy posted:

Isn't that the comic where Magneto literally puts all the normal humans in concentration camps and tries to exterminate them?

Possibly? It's been a while since I read the conclusion to Morrison's run but I know he went completely batshit at the end of it.


Magneto, not Morrison, although it can be argued that Morrison is in a permanent state of batshit.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Sailor Viy posted:

Isn't that the comic where Magneto literally puts all the normal humans in concentration camps and tries to exterminate them?

Nah, he just destroys Manhattan.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Patrick Spens posted:

Nah, he just destroys Manhattan.

Well, that's hardly a notable achievement in comic book land. :geno:

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/05/yes_i_drank_the_goats_blood_libertarian_senate_candidate_also_promises_a_second_civil_war_if_elected/

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013


Kind of want him to be part of the libertarian party just for the lulz.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

This is Invictus' resignation letter from a previous job. His law school friends show up in the comments - apparently he was known at law school as a weird but OK guy, very very smart but very very weird.

His accent is apparently half a put-on. A southerner trying to go mid-Atlantic for pomposity, and the result being nearly as awful as when an Australian tries an American accent or an American tries an Australian accent.

Invictus is not NRx as such, although he and Rachel Haywire did exchange mutual admiration on Twitter.

Asclepius Hot Rod
Apr 5, 2009

divabot posted:

This is Invictus' resignation letter from a previous job. His law school friends show up in the comments - apparently he was known at law school as a weird but OK guy, very very smart but very very weird.

His accent is apparently half a put-on. A southerner trying to go mid-Atlantic for pomposity, and the result being nearly as awful as when an Australian tries an American accent or an American tries an Australian accent.

Invictus is not NRx as such, although he and Rachel Haywire did exchange mutual admiration on Twitter.

Oh. My. That accent is...god awful! Since the trans-Atlantic accent is practically dead in the US and only heard in old movies and radio shows, he had to CHOOSE to speak that way. Such an enlightened individual indeed!

His love of Rome and the fact that he is a lawyer reminds me of someone who posted in the Roman/Greek Ask/Tell thread several years ago. Dude was convinced that the "Old Ways" were superior to modern life and that he would have been an aristocrat under the old Roman system. I wonder if they are the same person.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Asclepius Hot Rod posted:

Oh. My. That accent is...god awful! Since the trans-Atlantic accent is practically dead in the US and only heard in old movies and radio shows, he had to CHOOSE to speak that way. Such an enlightened individual indeed!

His love of Rome and the fact that he is a lawyer reminds me of someone who posted in the Roman/Greek Ask/Tell thread several years ago. Dude was convinced that the "Old Ways" were superior to modern life and that he would have been an aristocrat under the old Roman system. I wonder if they are the same person.

He popped up in some of the other history threads sometimes and he was hilarious because you just couldn't tell.

Hate Fibration
Apr 8, 2013

FLÄSHYN!

divabot posted:

This is Invictus' resignation letter from a previous job. His law school friends show up in the comments - apparently he was known at law school as a weird but OK guy, very very smart but very very weird.

His accent is apparently half a put-on. A southerner trying to go mid-Atlantic for pomposity, and the result being nearly as awful as when an Australian tries an American accent or an American tries an Australian accent.

Invictus is not NRx as such, although he and Rachel Haywire did exchange mutual admiration on Twitter.

Don't you mock Invictus, can't you see he has a Cadillac and a poodle?

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Maybe plastic skulls are the secret masters of neoreaction

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Maybe plastic skulls are the secret masters of neoreaction

Plastic skulls, for when you want to look scary, but in a pretentious sort of way.

Hate Fibration
Apr 8, 2013

FLÄSHYN!

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Maybe plastic skulls are the secret masters of neoreaction

They are the replacement for bitcoin in their glorious future.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Asclepius Hot Rod posted:

Oh. My. That accent is...god awful! Since the trans-Atlantic accent is practically dead in the US and only heard in old movies and radio shows, he had to CHOOSE to speak that way. Such an enlightened individual indeed!
I love reactionaries who try to be upper-class and intellectual and sophisticated because their idea of high society and academia and the way such people dress, talk, and behave is around 80 years out of date, and they have absolutely no idea how dumb they look doing shoddy imitations of a Hollywood actor from 1937.

quote:

His love of Rome and the fact that he is a lawyer reminds me of someone who posted in the Roman/Greek Ask/Tell thread several years ago. Dude was convinced that the "Old Ways" were superior to modern life and that he would have been an aristocrat under the old Roman system. I wonder if they are the same person.
He even had his own smiley named after him. :agesilaus:

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Woolie Wool posted:

I love reactionaries who try to be upper-class and intellectual and sophisticated because their idea of high society and academia and the way such people dress, talk, and behave is around 80 years out of date, and they have absolutely no idea how dumb they look doing shoddy imitations of a Hollywood actor from 1937.

It's hard to pick between that, and the people doing Dr. Doom impersonations.

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Woolie Wool posted:

I love reactionaries who try to be upper-class and intellectual and sophisticated because their idea of high society and academia and the way such people dress, talk, and behave is around 80 years out of date, and they have absolutely no idea how dumb they look doing shoddy imitations of a Hollywood actor from 1937.

He's Charles Emerson Winchester, the Twerp :allears:

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine
https://twitter.com/graaaaaagh

Progs are wrong because one-liner strawmen, apparently.

edit: apropos of nothing:

Merdifex has a new favorite as of 03:49 on Oct 14, 2015

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Merdifex posted:

https://twitter.com/graaaaaagh

Progs are wrong because one-liner strawmen, apparently.

edit: apropos of nothing:



I'm sad his twitter pic is no longer his lovely beard.

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Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Merdifex posted:

https://twitter.com/graaaaaagh

Progs are wrong because one-liner strawmen, apparently.

If the alternative is the meandering self-important bullshit on his blog then let's stick with the one-liners because they're just as easily ignored but take up less storage.

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