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Sudo Echo posted:only one of them voted for iraq, that's pretty different imo Sanders voted to continue Iraq
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Sudo Echo posted:only one of them voted for iraq, that's pretty different imo How's Sander's policy on Israel?
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It's a bit obnoxious to keep reading Hillary supporters post that "the insufferable" Bernie supporters should vote for Hillary because she is now aligned with 90% of Bernie's platform when her shift to take on more progressive issues is due precisely because of the unexpected reception to Bernie's message. If Bernie is making Hillary a better candidate by doing well in the campaign, it seems that continuing to support him through the primary is a win-win for his supporters: in the best case he becomes President, starts something that in a few years grows into a progressive revolution, and then ushers in a socialist utopia; in the worst case he loses the primary, and those supporters still get to vote for someone else who is at least 90% as good. In both cases the end result may end up disappointing because even if Hillary sticks to her new progressive views, I don't really see her doing any better with an obstructionist Congress than anyone else with a (D) next to their name. There is a possibility that some butt hurt fraction of Bernie supporters stay home on general election day but I don't see that happening because all signs point to Bernie (probably quite vocally) endorsing Hillary if he loses in the primary. I don't see that number being nearly enough for any of this cycle's Republican clown show to compete with Hillary.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Protip folks: the only people getting hosed by HFT are other rich people and day traders, who both deserve it. Unless you're trying to squeeze out a daily profit in trading after your broker fees, it might as well not exist as far as you're concerned how much cheering was there at the event you went to when Hillary slaughtered Chafee
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MSNBC treating the election with the seriousness it deserves.
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paranoid randroid posted:jenkem chafee Chafee Jerky No Salt No Spice First Day sale
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axeil posted:semi-serious question, i have to wonder about how old a lot of sanders supporters are. this is my 5th presidential election and i remember thinking like this when dean and obama were running. turns out that kerry (and clinton had she won the primary in 08) were very similar policy-wise. but if this is only your first or second presidential election, then yeah, i get why you might think sanders and clinton are miles apart. They are really far apart it's basically a fight for the heart of the party right now. It's not the same as Republicans but Republicans right now are two polar opposite parties mashed together. Honestly any Democratic candidate is not going to do poo poo if we don't when house and senate seats so I do like that Bernie keeps bringing it up. Bernie's whole plan hinges on good Dem turnout during midterms which is basically gambling. Clinton's is a more consistent I got this poo poo but she's already preparing the base for her doing a bunch a poo poo they don't like it Dems get their assses kicked in midterms like they usually do.
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Nintendo Kid posted:You are a moron. You probably aren't able to understand reflective surfaces, like a particularly stupid dog. "i'm still for keeping major regulation of the banks, i'm not for legalization of weed or ending the drug war, and i lust for arab blood and your civil liberties being eroded" "i want to break up the big banks, i'm for ending the drug war, and i think imperialism is mostly bad" are the not the same dipshit
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SirKibbles posted:You sound insane there are no plants, hillary is not jeb You're seriously misreading my post, friendo. Dahbadu posted:Bernie's applause was more natural. He obvious had supporters in the audience as well, but not nearly as many as Clinton. So "natural" applause to you sounds like roughly half of the audience? Hillary got a massive amount of applause because she triangulates and tells Democrats what they want to hear in a way that they like to hear it. Then again Bernie got massive applause a few times too, so maybe he is also a nefarious mastermind. Also there's not much talk in this thread about how masterfully Hillary dodged that Medicare for all question. The way she danced around the issue and wore out the clock? Glorious. I am a serious person.
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crazy eights posted:Hilary is garbage. You're garbage
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They are really different because republicans represent the wealthy ruling class and don't believe in gay marriage while Hillary represents the wealthy ruling class and (now) likes gay marriage Republicans want to go to war to protect big business whereas Hillary wants to go to war to protect a different big business The differences are staggering
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crazy eights posted:Hilary is garbage.
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NutritiousSnack posted:"i'm still for keeping major regulation of the banks, i'm not for legalization of weed or ending the drug war, and i lust for arab blood and your civil liberties being eroded" Whine harder moron. You're doing a great Webb impression though
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NutritiousSnack posted:salon is saying clinton lost the debate. all good. ??? http://www.salon.com/2015/10/14/sorry_haters_hillary_clinton_won_the_democratic_debate/
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Shear Modulus posted:he liked the asian women, he married one Well he would love Thuy Trang, she's both Vietnamese and dead.
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Hilary is a product of the establishment now, she's balls deep in the military industrial complex and would do precious little differently in terms of foreign policy that much I am sure. She is what we would call a 'safe pair of hands' for maintaining the status quo.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Sanders voted to continue Iraq cool that he doesn't want another isis like organization springing up from an immediate withdraw. almost like he's not braindead.
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NutritiousSnack posted:salon is saying clinton lost the debate. all good. You should start a website to promote Bernie. Call it bernieis45.com, and make sure to go more and more crazy as his loss becomes more apparent.
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NutritiousSnack posted:"i'm still for keeping major regulation of the banks, i'm not for legalization of weed or ending the drug war, and i lust for arab blood and your civil liberties being eroded" That's a great demonstration of the difference between Jeb Bush and Rand Paul
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Nintendo Kid posted:Sanders voted to continue Iraq oh fishmech, can't you stick to one topic for once? Mitt Romney posted:How's Sander's policy on Israel? i'd like to see any candidate stand up to AIPAC but it's never gonna happen. gotta be real here bruh.
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so uhhhh did anyone catch that horrible set by Rich Little on MSNBC? matthews called him classless and cut to commercial
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NutritiousSnack posted:cool that he doesn't want another isis like organization springing up from an immediate withdraw. almost like he's not braindead. I'm noting you down as supporting the Iraq war here.
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hillarys position on weed is largely lasseiz faire which is a breath of fresh air if you remember the holder doj crackdowns on medical programs
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basically hillary will probably be obama 2.0, with all the negative and positive things that connotes
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I want to drink mojitos with Hillary while we watch men get their balls waxed, laughing mirthfully.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Whine harder moron. You're doing a great Webb impression though seriously just aggressively angry hillary won fellas. shouldn't you be celebrating? 
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axeil posted:semi-serious question, i have to wonder about how old a lot of sanders supporters are. this is my 5th presidential election and i remember thinking like this when dean and obama were running. turns out that kerry (and clinton had she won the primary in 08) were very similar policy-wise. but if this is only your first or second presidential election, then yeah, i get why you might think sanders and clinton are miles apart. By goon standards I'm pretty ancient. Everyone on the stage tonight was closer, ideologically, than the Republicans have been to each other, but the Democrats are a unified party, not an ongoing schism so divided they can't even agree on a Speaker. And everyone on stage tonight was an actual Democrat. So yeah they're all Democrats so there's a certain degree of consistency. But there are still significant policy differences, especially on national security and foreign policy. Bernie came within a hair of saying Snowden deserves a pardon or commutation, for example, while Hillary functionally called for his head. Bernie explicitly called for breaking up the big banks, Hillary refused to go there. So on, so forth.
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Shinjobi posted:More Jim Webb jokes please. Rename him Gem Webb and make Stephen Universe fanart of him
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rezatahs posted:seriously just aggressively angry You've got things wrong : yall are aggressively stupid and are being mocked.
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NutritiousSnack posted:"i'm still for keeping major regulation of the banks, i'm not for legalization of weed or ending the drug war, and i lust for arab blood and your civil liberties being eroded" Hillary also said Iran was her enemy and that you should just work your way through college like she did. It's like she's actually proud to parrot right wing talking points. It's a mystery why people expect the left to vote for her in the general if she wins the primary.
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Why did no one ask Bernie about his plan to audit the fed, or how he'd actually break the big banks up.
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greatn posted:Well he would love Thuy Trang, she's both Vietnamese and dead. 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:By goon standards I'm pretty ancient. Everyone on the stage tonight was closer, ideologically, than the Republicans have been, but the Democrats are a unified party not an ongoing schism so divided they can't even agree on a Speaker. also I think any of these folks on stage would run rings around any of the republican candidates all of whom are intellectual lightweights
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7of7 posted:Hillary also said Iran was her enemy and that you should just work your way through college like she did. It's like she's actually proud to parrot right wing talking points. It's a mystery why people expect the left to vote for her in the general if she wins the primary. She's playing the long game, she's setting up talking points for when she's up against the Republicans. "I wasn't soft on Iran, I--" blah blah at a time it didn't really matter.
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