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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

RaySmuckles posted:

Literally a forever war. There will never be a "good time" to withdraw. 14 years of war so far and no end in sight.

http://www.theonion.com/article/18-year-old-fighting-in-afghanistan-has-911-explai-29518

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RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer

Literally The Worst posted:

bernie sanders will not get the nomination, because he's a white supremacist

great name/post combo!

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
that post was really something awful am i right

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

zoux posted:

Ok, is there actually any research linking social media poo poo like facebook likes and twitter follows to any kind of electoral advantage?

General rule of thumb is you see 3-5% pass through at every step

So if you have 100,000 followers, 5,000 will see the post, 250 will click the link, and 12 will do the purchase/donation/whatever at the site. If you add more steps in there (like a sign up page before) you see an additional drop at each added step (hence the importance of design testing for conversion optimization, you need it secure to handle money but as open and clear as possible to reduce drops)

So tl;dr version: no, social media isn't useful for direct electoral actions. It is more another mass media channel for messaging than a way to get action.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Tiler Kiwi posted:

Their conduct is just the logical end result of a capitalist system. If you're not willing to crush an employees larynx with your thumbs with a demand they thank you, your shareholders will just gently caress off to reap the bloodied dividends of whatever feckless prats that are willing to believe they're great people while stomping on necks for profit. And nobody will actually care enough in the end to change anything.

I'm in a bit of a poo poo mood after reading that tbh

Similarly, when Wal-Mart raised their employee wages to $10 an hour, and then reported lower profits a few days ago, their stock took a dump and now there are Forbes and Bloomberg thinkpieces about what a disaster this is and proof that no other company should do this ever and how horrible it is for the poor workers.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS





fuuuuuuuuuuck

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

QuoProQuid posted:

President Obama is halting the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.


I know Obama was hesitant to make this decision, but events in Kundunz probably forced his hand. Nonetheless, it is probably more in the U.S.'s interests to maintain a force than the alternative. It won't be politically popular, though.

The recent events in Kundunz (the hospital bombing) was because the city had already fallen to the Taliban and we were fighting to take it back from them. The place is cracking up and I very much expect the central government to collapse by midsummer 2016

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Lew to Boehner: we hit the debt ceiling in 19 days

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
NBA player Lamar Odom is in a coma fighting for his life because he took an herbal supplement with a dangerous ingredient at a brothel that interacted with some other drugs he was taking.

It's an interesting story politically I think because it shows how loving titles the FDA is. You can basically sell whatever poo poo you want as an "herbal supplement" and get away with it. The FDA even knew this supplement contained the active ingredient of Viagra and urged consumers to throw it away and issued a warning, but it was still legal for sale.

And you can sell homeopathic drugs in stores that do literally nothing and even have health insurance pay for them sometimes.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Jobless claims fell to 273000, a 42 year low

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

greatn posted:

NBA player Lamar Odom is in a coma fighting for his life because he took an herbal supplement with a dangerous ingredient at a brothel that interacted with some other drugs he was taking.

It's an interesting story politically I think because it shows how loving titles the FDA is. You can basically sell whatever poo poo you want as an "herbal supplement" and get away with it. The FDA even knew this supplement contained the active ingredient of Viagra and urged consumers to throw it away and issued a warning, but it was still legal for sale.

And you can sell homeopathic drugs in stores that do literally nothing and even have health insurance pay for them sometimes.


The cocaine he took probably had something to do with this. From what I understand he took some cocaine as well.


edit:

This is very interesting supposed leak on Drone Warfare we are contacting. I really like the way their website is designed as well.

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers


Wish we had a be informed thread so I can find more websites like this.

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Oct 15, 2015

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

greatn posted:

NBA player Lamar Odom is in a coma fighting for his life because he took an herbal supplement with a dangerous ingredient at a brothel that interacted with some other drugs he was taking.

It's an interesting story politically I think because it shows how loving titles the FDA is. You can basically sell whatever poo poo you want as an "herbal supplement" and get away with it. The FDA even knew this supplement contained the active ingredient of Viagra and urged consumers to throw it away and issued a warning, but it was still legal for sale.

And you can sell homeopathic drugs in stores that do literally nothing and even have health insurance pay for them sometimes.

Bernlord says it's totes okay for Medicare to pay for it and if it's good enough for him it's good enough for me.

MGDRAGOON
May 28, 2003

What you say!?!

This rear end in a top hat posted:

http://www.npr.org/2015/10/14/448544926/texas-oklahoma-permit-companies-to-dump-worker-compensation-plans

"It's not about reducing benefits," he says. "We can objectively show you that we have saved our clients over a billion dollars against Texas workers' comp over the past decade. When you're saving that kind of money, you don't have to get hung up on squeezing the employee."

Holy poo poo. He literally just said "we're making so much money loving the employees that we don't lose money when we don't gently caress the employees! Which we don't do because we just gently caress them."

Sylink
Apr 17, 2004

A Winner is Jew posted:

So your answer to thinking that only voting for president enacts change is to simply not vote because Bernie will not get the nomination...

Thanks guys I remember why I hadn't checked in on this forum for a long time.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



euphronius posted:

I love how people have been saying its a witch hunt for years but it is only true now because a republican said it.

Just a thought: One of my favorite historians of US politics defines "scandal" as only being something that people of both political parties acknowledge as scandalous.

It's super stupid, but no matter how obvious, if members of only one party yell a lot, it tends not to win over the number of politically active Americans necessary to create a real stink.

EDIT: Grammar correction.

Combed Thunderclap fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Oct 15, 2015

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Farm lobby is pushing against Ryan for speaker because they think he will cut crop insurance. :getin:

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

"Imagination is not enough. You have to have knowledge too, and an experience of the oddity of life."

Josh Lyman posted:

Is this an accurate characterization of the relationship between Obama and Republicans or am I just drinking the Rachel Maddow juice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXTtdO3VZU

Seems fairly accurate. He held on for a bipartisan deal long, long, loooong after it was obvious there was no good faith across the aisle. Arguably the racist histrionics would have been worse if he hadn't, the backlash stronger. Letting the republican party sit in its lovely diaper for everyone to see would be the 11th dimensional chess strategy, but thats probably bullshit.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Torrannor posted:

I know that the USA is hosed up, but it's hard to believe just how far gone you are. :psyduck:

How can the regulators be powerless to do something against plainly illegal worker compensation plans? It just boggles the mind.

They have to wait until enough workers have been injured by the illegal plans, and then some noble and virtuous lawyers will organize them into a class action suit to redress their injuries.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


sullat posted:

They have to wait until enough workers have been injured by the illegal plans, and then some noble and virtuous lawyers will organize them into a class action suit to redress their injuries.

*Awaits $48.37 check*

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
"Let's disrupt Washington & create a small recession inside DC so we can have economic prosperity outside of Washington" - Jeb Bush, yesterday


You know, there is just oh so much stupidity in this sentence, it astounds. The empty late stage capitalism buzzwords that are so meaningless yet he still manages to misuse. The delight in proposing devastating a city of 600,000 mostly black people (most of whom have nothing to do with the federal government) so he can advance his political agenda. Promising to create a recession when it's what his father and brother infamously did, harming generations. Treating a recession like a good thing because he and his are so insulated from the effects... Just so much stupidity as both a rhetorical choice, and that's without treating it like a policy proposal. It reminds me of the Chicago Tribune wishing for another Katrina to hit Chicago.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"


That will be even funnier in 2020, when the Soldier in Afghanistan can be younger than the 9/11.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I don't even think most people alive at 9/11 give a poo poo about it anymore.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

MGDRAGOON posted:

Holy poo poo. He literally just said "we're making so much money loving the employees that we don't lose money when we don't gently caress the employees! Which we don't do because we just gently caress them."

All that matters is saving more money, getting rid of job killing regulations, and quarterly profits. Literally nothing else matters.

Free markets.

More blood for the blood God. Hail Satan. Cthulhu fhtagn.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
Just be happy you are working!!

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

A Winner is Jew posted:

We've had a Catholic and a Muslim so far so probably.

So if Bernie wins we can thank right wing hyperbole.

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

AfroLine posted:

Just be happy you are working!!

Really if you think about it, you should be paying us to have a job!

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


the_paradigm_shift posted:

Aside from being way too long, and ignoring conservative pundits, does the American public really have a problem with Afghanistan going on? Like the moderates and people who ignore politics.

I feel like the American public, much like Obama himself, at this point cares mostly about saving face and studiously refusing to acknowledge the catastrophic effects of the neocon policies that it voted for, and just wants the whole middle east nightmare to quietly go away and never be mentioned again

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Oct 15, 2015

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU
Also while there is no chance that the Baath power will return to power in Iraq if the US withdraws the Taliban is still around so if they felt it would be like nothing changed it'd be an even bigger embarrassment.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

The leaked Drone Papers are a pretty interesting read.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

Hollismason posted:


This is very interesting supposed leak on Drone Warfare we are contacting. I really like the way their website is designed as well.

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers


Wish we had a be informed thread so I can find more websites like this.

this literally just happened so you're hearing about it as soon as anyone else :) but it might be cool to have a thread like that

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

loving hell Onion, I feel old enough as is. :saddowns:

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Politico: Jeb Cuts Back

As always with this kind of story, the value isn't any fleeting bits of information, but in considering who wants this narrative out in the public. My guess is Rubio network, since it would have the same Florida people that bring out a lot of daggers here.

That said, one interesting tidbit of verifiable (and this possibly accurate) nature:

This loving clown dropped 4.8 million on ads in NH in the past 3 weeks, getting 60% of the political advertising. And in that time period he saw his polling average drop from 9% to 8.7%

The completely unsupported statement that they are having trouble covering daily expenses I don't believe, but it being out there will piss Mr ! off and he can eat poo poo

Lil Miss Clackamas
Jan 25, 2013

ich habe aids
Ultimately, the United States must be destroyed.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Scott Walker is a whiney little bitch

"I'm not going to whine..." *spends entire interview whining about the media and no one liking your policy proposals because of the media, not because you are dumb as hell*

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

zoux posted:

Honestly I'm surprised that there were any real consequences for him saying it, but only because they get away with everything.

Everyone in Washington DC knew the truth but as long as one party denies it the media wouldn't report the truth. Once McCarthy accidentally admitted it, then the media was free to say what they knew all along. It's why the worst gaffes in Washington are when you accidentally tell the truth: the media then gets to report on it as the truth instead of reporting on the controversy.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Gravel Gravy posted:

Also while there is no chance that the Baath power will return to power in Iraq if the US withdraws the Taliban is still around so if they felt it would be like nothing changed it'd be an even bigger embarrassment.

Yeah, I mean they are actively seizing territory again. Basically all the Bush actions have utterly failed

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Fried Chicken posted:

Yeah, I mean they are actively seizing territory again. Basically all the Bush actions have utterly failed

In a way it's almost as though the Bush years never happened :unsmith:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Fried Chicken posted:

Yeah, I mean they are actively seizing territory again. Basically all the Bush actions have utterly failed

I also think a lot of people don't want to admit loved ones died for literally no benefit other than padding the pockets of military contractors.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Radish posted:

I don't even think most people alive at 9/11 give a poo poo about it anymore.

Anyone who would still give a poo poo about 9/11 are now too busy giving shits about Benghazi.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Gravel Gravy posted:

In a way it's almost as though the Bush years never happened :unsmith:

Nah afghanistan is worse than it was before. Even still, we shouldn't waste another god drat dollar, minute, or life in that hellhole.

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