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Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

JT Jag posted:

Thread, what is your opinion on handgun calibers
Anything less than .32 is underpowered, anything more then .45 is compensating.

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Snowman Crossing
Dec 4, 2009

JT Jag posted:

Thread, what is your opinion on handgun calibers

All are cool and good, except .40 S&W and .45 GAP

on the left
Nov 2, 2013
I Am A Gigantic Piece Of Shit

Literally poo from a diseased human butt

Flowers For Algeria posted:

I'm just saying that if you don't want to turn from a gun owner into a gun owned, don't confront burglars in your home :cmon:

EDIT also yeah if you're not a sociopath, you shouldn't be itching for burglar death

I want to maim a home invader, but have decided to use a spear. I own guns, but they don't give the same satisfaction as slowly applying pressure to keep the barely conscious home intruder pinned to the ground, so I just use the guns for target shooting.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Snowman Crossing posted:

All are cool and good, except .40 S&W and .45 GAP
.40 S&W is just 10mm for babies and poors.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

on the left posted:

I want to maim a home invader, but have decided to use a spear. I own guns, but they don't give the same satisfaction as slowly applying pressure to keep the barely conscious home intruder pinned to the ground, so I just use the guns for target shooting.

Don't lie about being able to hold a whole 6 pounds with your pencil arms.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
to the gun owners in this thread: do you ever play dressup with your guns? do you ever put a dress on one gun and a suit on the other and then pretend that the two guns are getting married? do you ever make your guns kiss each other

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

DolphinCop posted:

to the gun owners in this thread: do you ever play dressup with your guns? do you ever put a dress on one gun and a suit on the other and then pretend that the two guns are getting married? do you ever make your guns kiss each other
Don't be so heteronormative.

All of my guns are dudes in a homosexual polyamorous relationship.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Short and long-barreled guns cohabitating with one another is an abomination before Heston.

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Effectronica posted:

Burglars- avoid killing.

Gun owners- talk at length about how they want to kill.

Killing is worse than stealing.

QED.

Well yes, killing is worse than stealing, but fantasizing about killing isn't worse than stealing. I'm afraid I have to rule that robbers are still somewhat worse than gun owners.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 17, 2009

Heh, yeah, 'round here I call myself The Enabler. I suspect pretty much everyone wishes they could be me -- I'm kind of a big deal, you see.
If killing a man is a hell of a thing, where you take away everything he has and everything he will ever have, isn't burglary just killing a little piece of a man?

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013


I'm not sure which part of this quote is my favorite.

various cheeses fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Oct 16, 2015

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

various cheeses posted:

I'm not sure which part of this quote is my favorite.

Even though wearing a seatbelt is overwhelmingly more likely to save your life than not wearing one, I'm very scared of getting trapped in and burning to death in my car, so I don't wear one, because I am incredibly stupid.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011
I to believe that people should be forced to take the course of action I have mathematically determined is optimal.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Dead Reckoning posted:

I to believe that people should be forced to take the course of action I have mathematically determined is optimal.

You're going to be real sad when you learn what a law is

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
This is a gun fanboy deflection, and not to be taken seriously. They invoke self defense scenarios to explain why it is of vital import that guns not be restricted. Then they argue with great weeping against restrictions on suppressors, drum magazines, automatics, licenses, assault weapons, and maximum numbers of firearms - that is to say, things essentially irrelevant to any plausible self defense scenario, but very important to a certain small subset of toy obsessed sociopaths. Don't accept their scaremongering at face value

on the left
Nov 2, 2013
I Am A Gigantic Piece Of Shit

Literally poo from a diseased human butt

Tezzor posted:

This is a gun fanboy deflection, and not to be taken seriously. They invoke self defense scenarios to explain why it is of vital import that guns not be restricted. Then they argue with great weeping against restrictions on suppressors, drum magazines, automatics, licenses, assault weapons, and maximum numbers of firearms - that is to say, things essentially irrelevant to any plausible self defense scenario, but very important to a certain small subset of toy obsessed sociopaths. Don't accept their scaremongering at face value

All of those things are not really represented in every day street crime, which is predominantly committed by a "certain demographic" with cheap pistols that gun collectors wouldn't even recognize.

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

on the left posted:

All of those things are not really represented in every day street crime, which is predominantly committed by a "certain demographic" with cheap pistols that gun collectors wouldn't even recognize.

Not all of those things are currently irrelevant to current violent crime - licensing, registration, limits. For the rest, it is true that they are not currently major factors in crime - because those things are heavily regulated, a state of affairs that they hate and would end, given the chance.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Snowman Crossing posted:

All are cool and good, except .40 S&W and .45 GAP

Screw you. I love my G23 4g

hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003
Trip report:

I loaded up my concealed weapon and made my way to Taco Bell so I could pick up a Quesarito Big Box so I could enter the golden PS4 contest. When I entered the restaurant, I calmly scanned the room to identify potential threats. There were a pack of urban youths in the back corner which immediately caught my attention. I shifted my weight to my left foot so I could more efficiently take aim if need be. I read somewhere that is what Delta Operators do so I knew I would be ready. The group of thugs looked up at me and recognized that I was in a position of power and they quickly returned to yelling about the NBA and rap.

Anyway, I managed to order my Quesarito Big Box and I just wanted to let you know about my successful DGU. Cheers, folk! Stay frosty :)

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010

gohmak posted:

Screw you. I love my G23 4g

I still prefer the third generation but :cheers:

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love


I think I'm ready to thread my 10/22 td and suppress it before the Dems "take mah rights."

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


various cheeses posted:

I'm not sure which part of this quote is my favorite.

Well it's either the part where, like any law-enforcement officer or self-defense specialist, I advise you that not engaging an unknown threat is the safest, most intelligent course of action, or the part where I remind you that planning on killing someone for a minor crime isn't the most moral solution in the presence of alternatives and you shouldn't be itching for burglar death because get this they've got human rights and you are not in any position to deny thrm.

You've latched onto this post as some sort of gotcha but it's perfectly reasonable and true.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010

Flowers For Algeria posted:

...they've got human rights and you are not in any position to deny thrm...

Untrue, you have a gun. One is rather effective at revoking all of an individual's rights for eternity.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

gohmak posted:

I think I'm ready to thread my 10/22 td and suppress it before the Dems "take mah rights."

Do it. Suppressed .22lr is hilariously fun.

tumblr.txt
Jan 11, 2015

by zen death robot

Tezzor posted:

Not all of those things are currently irrelevant to current violent crime - licensing, registration, limits. For the rest, it is true that they are not currently major factors in crime - because those things are heavily regulated, a state of affairs that they hate and would end, given the chance.

Just to pick on one example, suppressors are perfectly legal (and considered polite) in a number of first world countries. Why have the good people of New Zealand or Britain not suffered a huge wave of suppressor equipped criminals?

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Well it's either the part where, like any law-enforcement officer or self-defense specialist, I advise you that not engaging an unknown threat is the safest, most intelligent course of action, or the part where I remind you that planning on killing someone for a minor crime isn't the most moral solution in the presence of alternatives and you shouldn't be itching for burglar death because get this they've got human rights and you are not in any position to deny thrm.

You've latched onto this post as some sort of gotcha but it's perfectly reasonable and true.

Did you click that link?
Here's the rundown. Is it okay to shoot a guy then?

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Look, just let yourself by murdered so you can maintain moral superiority. It's just that easy.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!
Do people in other developed countries feel as paranoid about home invasions/cynical about police protection as Americans do? What do they do as regards personal safety in contrast to Americans?

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

TheRamblingSoul posted:

Do people in other developed countries feel as paranoid about home invasions/cynical about police protection as Americans do? What do they do as regards personal safety in contrast to Americans?

There's a reason people are cynical about police protection, FYI.

It's pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

various cheeses posted:

There's a reason people are cynical about police protection, FYI.

It's pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

I don't disagree, just curious on other countries' take on my question. A common argument for pro-gun ownership is that there is not enough time between an incident and police arrival to deter a criminal so personal action is necessary to stop them.

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Oct 16, 2015

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


TheRamblingSoul posted:

Do people in other developed countries feel as paranoid about home invasions/cynical about police protection as Americans do? What do they do as regards personal safety in contrast to Americans?

in the UK most of the police don't carry guns, and I don't know anyone who's particularly scared of home invasions.

Otoh

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


You have to be pretty loving dumb to think owning a gun will make you less likely to be killed.

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

Ozmiander posted:

Look, just let yourself by murdered so you can maintain moral superiority. It's just that easy.

This, but unironically.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
You either are the good guy with a gun and die, or you live long enough to become the bad guy with a gun

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

CommieGIR posted:

You either are the good guy with a gun and die, or you live long enough to become the bad guy with a gun

Which one are you going to be? Didn't you say you had guns?

Also I hope FfA responds, I'm curious to see what he would do in a worst case situation like that.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

various cheeses posted:

Which one are you going to be? Didn't you say you had guns?

It was a joke.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

CommieGIR posted:

It was a joke.

Haha whoops. Well you can never be sure in this thread. :shrug:

Didn't you say you collected a bunch of older milsurp stuff?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

various cheeses posted:

Didn't you say you collected a bunch of older milsurp stuff?

Yep.

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Why do you need to horde military style weapons??

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Ozmiander posted:

Why do you need to horde military style weapons??

I have all of three, and they are locked up and ammunition stored separately. If I was asked to register them, I would. None of them are automatic, and I never intend to use any of them for home defense.

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