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Trabisnikof posted:You guys are fools if you think Carson's book tour won't look a lot like campaigning All Republicans were born the second Obama elected. I mean, how else could they forget the last time this transparently bullshit thing happened with McCain 'suspending' his campaign for the financial crisis.
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Kro-Bar posted:Welp, Mike Huckabee is taking a strange policy position. what the gently caress.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:39
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The slavery for crimes things is a very libertarian concept and plays well with a lot of the tea party crowd.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:40
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Huckabee is the worst and the only saving grace is that he will never hold political office ever again
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Oct 15, 2015 22:41
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Yea we currently basically have slavery now in our prison system.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:41
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Kro-Bar posted:Welp, Mike Huckabee is taking a strange policy position. That's the same radio host that advocated for enslaving undocumented immigrants a few months ago. Apparently he's really into slavery, and Huckabee has reached the "I don't give a gently caress anymore" stage of his campaign and is willing to say anything to get any kind of attention. evilweasel posted:They were literally unskewing the polls like those crazy people on the internet were, rebalancing them assuming that more white people would show up. Banking on the rosiest fantasy scenario like that in the face of all known facts and information is utterly insane to me, but they did the exact same thing leading up to the Iraq war so I really shouldn't be surprised.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:44
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The huckster really has been huffing his own farts too much. He's full on bible thumping theocratic fascist.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:50
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Zeroisanumber posted:"Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!" I know it's just attention-seeking behavior but then you read books like The Handmaiden's Tale and start to get suspicious about how much is attention-seeking and how much is openly plotting a fun, brave
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Oct 15, 2015 22:50
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evilweasel posted:I think Jeb is clearly done though. Rubio seems to be the likely 'establishment' candidate at this point. If I had to bet though, I'd probably bet on Trump given the odds everyone is giving him, hes got a much better shot than people are willing to admit. Mind you, Rubio is probably the most dangerous candidate in the general, since Jeb is a Bush and Walker was... Well... Walker. Rubio is a "handsome Latino" and has comparatively little baggage outside of immigration, and the Know-Nothings backing Trump right now rarely stay home instead of backing their candidate the way Democrats do, all the more so now when the alternative to voting for Rubio is President Hillary. If Rubio is indeed the nominee, it'll be close, and Rubio could win if the fundamentals (economy, terrorism, etc.) are not in the Democrats' favor come this time next year.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:51
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Oct 15, 2015 22:52
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Hollismason posted:Yea we currently basically have slavery now in our prison system. In a way, it's more honest.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:55
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Toph Bei Fong posted:For a moment, just imagine Richard Milhous Nixon with access to all the NSA data. The same president who ordered two CIA agents to break into the Watergate hotel and set up wiretaps on the Democrats for him. Who maintained an enemies list that were targeted regularly by the IRS, FBI, and other organizations for harassment. Then pause a moment and think of the continuum of Nixon administration folks who survived watergate and lived on through the Ford, Reagan, and two Bush administrations. 
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Oct 15, 2015 22:56
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trump is definitely going to get what he wants for the debate lol http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cnbc-debate-trump-carson-boycott-rules
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Oct 15, 2015 22:58
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Kro-Bar posted:Welp, Mike Huckabee is taking a strange policy position. Don't we already do that?
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Oct 15, 2015 23:01
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There is some good that has come out of Trump running. He has polarized the issues and he's gotten a lot more attention on the Primary process. He's also just completely devastated campaigns of establishment politicians. So in a way Trump is making America great again by not allowing the Republicans to win the White House.
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evilweasel posted:I think Jeb is clearly done though. Rubio seems to be the likely 'establishment' candidate at this point. If I had to bet though, I'd probably bet on Trump given the odds everyone is giving him, hes got a much better shot than people are willing to admit. So Conventional Wisdom will go down the tubes this election cycle? I'm still not convinced of that. I still think, maybe even hope, that people in the establishment, on both sides, have control over GOT ground game and local sway over base voters. If they don't and if Trump doesn't take the nomination, then I think it's far more likely that we will be looking at candidate Ted Cruz, not Rubio; because if the establishment doesn't matter then Cruz has just as much money as Rubio and he's a far better public speaker. Plus Cruz has the backing of every Radio Talking Head.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:03
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If Trump gets the nod, how likely are we to see some sort of third party spoiler on the right? A Bull-Moose party sort of thing.
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Rubio and Fiorina or Fiorina and Rubio would be a good ticket for the Republicans.Yiggy posted:If Trump gets the nod, how likely are we to see some sort of third party spoiler on the right? A Bull-Moose party sort of thing. Probably not. Also, who is paying for Trumps campaign is he taking donations or is he seriously funding it himself.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Banking on the rosiest fantasy scenario like that in the face of all known facts and information is utterly insane to me, but they did the exact same thing leading up to the Iraq war so I really shouldn't be surprised. The funniest part of the evening was the fact that Mitt really, really bought into his campaign's own bullshit and expected to win a crushing victory. So much so that he hadn't even written a draft of a concession speech, which made for an amusing lag between when he knew he was beat and when he actually admitted it.
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Hollismason posted:Also, who is paying for Trumps campaign is he taking donations or is he seriously funding it himself. From what I understand he's not actually paying for a lot of the standard campaign machinery, he's been able to drive things off of outlandish media blitzes. Even if hes not raising a ton of money, he's not spending on usual campaign expenditures like field offices, staffers, ground game, etc. He also uses his campaign money on his own businesses. quote:At first blush, spending Trump campaign funds on services in which Trump has a monetary stake — about 40 percent of the campaign’s second-quarter spending went to recognizably Trump-affiliated entities — might raise eyebrows. But the rules for campaign funds going to a candidate are clear, and Trump does not appear to be breaking them, according to election-law experts. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-brand-campaign-spending-quarterly-reports-214671 Its almost like he's running for president as a giant tax scam. Yiggy fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Yiggy posted:From what I understand he's not actually paying for a lot of the standard campaign machinery, he's been able to drive things off of outlandish media blitzes. Even if hes not raising a ton of money, he's not spending on usual campaign expenditures like field offices, staffers, ground game, etc. The fact that he doesn't have a ground game is key though since it means he's either (a) not actually serious still (b) totally clueless on how modern elections work (c) actively trying to gently caress the GOP over. Iowa is going to really show just how serious to take Trump since if he fails that with his 10 point lead he's done, and the serious candidates then get to fight it out, but only if any are left. 
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Seriously, what the gently caress happened to Huckabee? How does he go from being a Daily Show "one of the good ones" to The American Ayatollah?
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Oct 15, 2015 23:20
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Cruz has a long term plan to be the last acceptable candidate remaining after Trump destroys all of the more conventional establishment candidates.
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foobardog posted:Seriously, what the gently caress happened to Huckabee? How does he go from being a Daily Show "one of the good ones" to The American Ayatollah? It's basically the thing where a monster reverts to it's true form when dead. The Huckabee is slowly melting away to reveal it's true nature as it inevitably moves towards political and possibly financial bankruptcy.
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quote:In an interview with WIBX 950 in New York on Wednesday, moderate Republican Rep. Richard Hanna said House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy was speaking the truth when he said this month that the committee had successfully injured Clinton. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/another-republican-admits-benghazi-panel-political 
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Miltank posted:Cruz has a long term plan to be the last acceptable candidate remaining after Trump destroys all of the more conventional establishment candidates. I am seriously scared shitless by the possibility of President Ted Cruz. When Super Tuesday arrives, if the two leading candidates are Trump and Cruz, I'm voting Trump and praying that every other Democrat does as well.
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NewMars posted:It's basically the thing where a monster reverts to it's true form when dead. The Huckabee is slowly melting away to reveal it's true nature as it inevitably moves towards political and possibly financial bankruptcy. Yeah, I guess, and I also think that while the country in general has moved to the left on social issues, the rhetoric from the right has moved even further to the right, and with Trump dispensing with the dog whistles, it's open season on their true beliefs.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:42
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From the picture thread. Andy Kaufman doesn't have poo poo on Trump.
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What's a moderate Republican? I thought those were extinct
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Kro-Bar posted:Welp, Mike Huckabee is taking a strange policy position. A Southern Baptist in favor of slavery? That's unheard of!
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greatn posted:Won't have to since Bernie is going to win. I suppose if Bernie were to drop out for health reasons I'd gladly vote for Hillary. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/ Clinton has 150 + endorsements including 9 governors. Bernie has 2. Tweets and facebook likes don't win primaries.
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It's still a year out. Obama started with even less when he faced the Hillary train. I used to think that Hillaryis44 website was weird but maybe not if all her supporters are this bitter.
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Fojar38 posted:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/ Whoa the Democratic establishment and party is supporting the democrat? Holy poo poo I can't believe it!
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greatn posted:Whoa the Democratic establishment and party is supporting the democrat? Holy poo poo I can't believe it! Uh, what party do you think Bernie is running as?
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Epic High Five posted:What's a moderate Republican? I thought those were extinct 
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Buckwheat Sings posted:It's still a year out. Obama started with even less when he faced the Hillary train. (ill save you the trouble, you're deluded about this)
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Salvor_Hardin posted:
Reminds me of that indy(?) movie that had John Goodman play an FBI agent who responded Waco style to a small town church that tied people up in plastic wrap and shot them in the head when they committed a sin and basically everyone died in the end.
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awesmoe posted:Can you please source your claim that obama had less establishment support in 2007 than bernie does now? I think he's referring to polls, which at this point Obama was slightly more behind, but for Obama support from officials the race was really Kennedy Wing vs. Clinton Wing
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greatn posted:I think he's referring to polls, which at this point Obama was slightly more behind, but for Obama support from officials the race was really Kennedy Wing vs. Clinton Wing
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pathetic little tramp posted:This is all part of the Trump plan. He's said before he wants the debate to be only the top 5 at most, no Huckabee, Christie, Paul bullshit. He's giving them demands (cannot be more than 2 hours, opening and closing remarks) that they can't meet unless the debate was sans the low-energy morons. They can't change their guidelines to remove people this late in the game, and they're not going to be able to meet the demands. I don't think Trump needs all that. Think about what sort of a debater he is, who he's up against and the narrative that he's been trying to weave, and then think about what cutting down the allotted time will do to the format of the debate. Think about Webb's complaints during the Democratic debate about being treated unfairly and imagine a two hour debate with a field twice as big and Trump+Carson as the frontrunners commanding the lions' share of attention. It's the perfect venue for Trump to savage the scrubs, take comparatively minimal damage in return from any one candidate, and even minimize the number of possible Trump v. Carson moments, leaving that avenue of goodwill unblemished. Then he gets to say that Bush/Rubio/Paul/Cruz couldn't get a word in against him. Making the debate shorter but keeping everything else the same plays directly to Trump's advantage. TheQat posted:he thinks that because he believes the socialist tag will be too much for bernie to overcome in the general, not because the DNC won't support him We've had 8 years of virtually the entire opposition calling Obama a socialist over every conceivable thing. That word has totally lost its power as far as negatively affecting a Democrat is concerned. I also personally doubt that a significant number of voters exist who wouldn't mind voting for Hillary in the general but would be turned off from voting for a self-described socialist to the benefit of the GOP. If anything, running a candidate that beats FOX to the punch on the moniker makes the Dems look less cowardly and limp-wristed to the average American.
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