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Cerebral Bore posted:I think the better question is if Jrod has entered into joinder with the watermelon. sweet, passionate joinder toot toot
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I want in on this friendship contract. Does that make me property or do I become incorporated?
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I am everyone's friend. Except jrod's. Kill yourself jrod.
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LTW when it comes time for your match with jrod, I will be there, in your corner with water. I won't bring a towel though, you won't be needing it.
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Literally The Worst posted:n Thanks babe.
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Just a few reminders of the ironclad importance of freedom and property rights for the creme de la creme of libertarian thought. Reason Magazine doing the Time warp! “It is possible that in the past decade no country has moved further toward a libertarian society than South Africa has. Yes—South Africa.” "As I have stressed in a previous report [December 1973], in South Africa the chickens of democracy have come home to roost. Some years ago, the whites realized that a democracy may deteriorate into a dictatorship in the “wrong” hands-especially when those hands have the wrong color to boot." Grr, those lazy, freedom-hating blacks! 'The economy is in a complete state of chaos. And because the inhabitants equate 'freedom' with freedom from work, the chances for any improvement seem remote.' “Let the people who advocate immediate majority rule in South Africa and Rhodesia take note. It would be very nice to have a minimal libertarian government and that is what South African libertarians would like to achieve. But as long as the choice is between being governed by a relatively informed white minority and a Socialist black majority, ‘apartheid’ in South Africa will stay.” It astounds me how little difference there is between then and now in libertarian discourse. Other than the addition of the term "time preference", it's pretty much the same. loving Wahabbist clerics recycle their thoughts more often. Your intellectual forebears were defending and pronlonguing slavery, never freeing slaves. They were exploiting racism, tradition and superstition to hog more for themselves and less for everyone else. If Jonas Salk had been a libertarian, Big Iron Lung would be a lobby as powerful as the NRA today. Western progressives have been pelted with the rubble of the Berlin Wall as if we'd been in Charge in Eastern Europe in the 20th century, but your band of little psychos has never acknowledged, or apologized, for anything. It reminds me of the guy from the other thread who was all frothy about how everyone should be like Rorschach from Watchmen and "Never, EVER compromise, not even facing armageddon!", but couldn't be bothered to face the slightest incovenience himself despite being allegedly under the state's unfeeling, cruel jackboot. Not tax protesting, not moving, not anything. So there you have it, Jrod. Your side's definition of property is laughable. It makes Calvinball look stable and dignified. It's the most important foundation of liberty and society, BUT vast majorities of people cannot be trusted with it. It is the basis of all other freedoms and rights BUT sometimes we'll just have to annex a country or three worth of resources and tut-tut at your descendants when they want it back because they didn't properly notarize their own sacking and kept no receipts. And of course it allows for correction of injustices and abuses, provided it keeps with our tradition of having the will to correct something be inversely proportional to the ability to to do so. "See, we'd love to compensate the genocide and theft of Native lands, but it's too hard. And it'd be simple to make some amend for the descendants of slaves, but we...don't really care to." Cato's little lists of 'free' countries are always a laugh riot. They alternate between blowjobbing monarchies and authoritarian fiefs because they have no minimum wage and low taxes and grudgingly including 'socialist' countries with high standards of life like New Zealand and Denmark to at least try and pretend that they aren't advocating for large-scale oppression. I expect we won't see any exodus of the so very oppressed libertarian masses (chortle) to the teeming shores on the UAE or Qatar, where they would soon discover the many and varied bounties of 'freedom' upon those of no connections or wrong ethnicity/religion.
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jrodefeld posted:I'm not talking about vaccines other than to say that I stand by my view that I oppose the State forcing people to take them against their will. I never said vaccines are "bad", or that people shouldn't take them. I stated something that is true, namely that there is a real danger to granting pharmaceutical companies carte blanche to produce vaccines that the State then MANDATES the public to take. The incentive structure is such that it encourages an overproduction of vaccines and pressure to give more and more vaccines at younger and younger ages, beyond the reasonable demands of public safety. Where's your skepticism of big money and distrust of corporate greed when it comes to vaccine production, Progressives? Can you stop with the "I'm not going to talk about it" bit, and then continue to talk about it. You know why these threads go off the rails? Well, one, you're a loving moron with the intelligence of an anencephalic infant, but two, you don't control the conversation. You have to post about EVERY THING, and suddenly, you say something really stupid, and we're going to jump on you. So once again, shut up with the loving progressives talk. Who are you addressing here? Secondly, vaccines are good. Have you ever seen an iron lung? Have your friends ever had to go into an iron lung? No? I wonder why? Oh, because of a loving vaccine for a loving disease called polio. Like, I know what vaccines I have to have, and they are all perfectly sane. Can you please pinpoint a specific vaccine that doesn't make sense for people to have? All you're doing here is arguing from paranoia. You're not actually presenting any reasons or facts. Frankly, I have to question why you want children to die from easily preventable diseases. There was a story this summer about a child with loving leukemia who got sick with measles because of some anti-vaxx parents who visited Disney Land. That's why vaccines are important, you loving heartless cad who can't take five loving minutes to look poo poo up online that isn't some masturbatory slop from some dumbass libertarian who lives some semi-charmed life and pretends that he's being oppressed. Measles is an entirely preventable disease. And had the anti-vaxx crowd not been so loving stupid, that girl would have been protected by herd immunity. Because you see, you loving watermelon fucker, some diseases make you severely immuno-compromised for a variety of reasons. And so these people, like children with leukemia, rely on herd immunity. It wasn't a problem until idiots with your mindset started spouting off without doing the bare minimum of research. If I sound pissed, I am. I have a thing about not seeing sick children get sicker because of some rear end in a top hat ideology driven by nothing more than pure paranoia. quote:You've been involved in these debates with me for a while now, Cemetary Gator. Why do you keep conflating the libertarian policies I endorse with the sort of policies the United States is now living under? Well, if you had any reading comprehension and possess any ability to think, you would understand that I am not conflating the policies of modern day USA with libertarian politics. Instead, I am pointing out that in modern day America, these problems are rampant despite the fact that if people were to behave the way you say they would, they should not exist, or should be much more manageable. So bringing up the homeless on the streets of Madison, WI is relevant to this conversation. After all, if charity would take care of the homeless, then why do we have so many of them on the street? You can't just create a fantasy world, create a set of rules, and then insist that everything will play by those rules when we can look at the current system and see that in fact, the rules aren't being followed. quote:I can practically guarantee that the United States is currently farther away from the sort of policies I'd like that the sort that you'd recommend. What the gently caress does this even mean? This is pure gibberish. quote:Before I delve into that, let me back up my claims about Sweden. Everyone and their grandmother use Sweden as the sort of model social democracy that the United States ought to emulate. Bernie Sanders is doing so right now on the campaign trail. But the truth is that the wealth that Sweden has was created largely during the eighty to one hundred years before the social democratic reforms championed by progressives. Why do you need to talk about Sweden. God, reading your posts is painful since you have to go all over the place. quote:The problems that exist in the United States today have to do with State policy that has largely undone the great prosperity and productive capacity of our once great free market economy. The growing gap between rich and poor has nothing to do with the free market and everything to do with our abandonment of a sound currency and our embrace of reckless fiat monetary policy which has empowered the parasitic and unproductive rich while punishing the poor, the savers, and the productive entrepreneur who bears the brunt of the regulations heaped onto the economy. It is indeed a rigged game but don't blame this on the free market or libertarian ideology! Oh my. You can't be serious. First off, all of these are just unfounded statements. Secondly, the parasitic rich comment is a "No true Scotsman fallacy" if I ever heard one. And please, explain to me about the burdensome regulations I face on a daily basis. I'm really confused. I rarely deal with government nonsense that gets in the way of my day-to-day life. By the way, I'll touch on this: jrodefeld posted:The writing tips seem like an evasion. You can avoid the issue we are discussing and be condescending at the same time! It's a win-win. The writing tips are not an evasion, because I mock your writing and then mock your points, and then use your rhetorical errors to mock you even further. So, yes, I'm being condescending, but I'm not being evasive. I'm trying to point out how you can communicate with us better, since you vomit a lot of words and still manage to say nothing.
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jrodefeld posted:So I speak about economic policy in the 19th century and you post a chart that starts in 1916. What is this supposed to prove? You were talking out your rear end about the gold standard being linked to low levels of debt and inequality, and I posted charts showing that private debt and income inequality reached similar levels to what they are today under the gold standard. This is supposed to prove that you are wrong.
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Cemetry Gator posted:What the gently caress does this even mean? This is pure gibberish. "it's closer to your thing than mine, and poo poo's hosed, therefore, my thing would be better progessailures"
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Jrod, one thing I've noticed in your posts is that you seem to assume that we "statists" want everyone to have equal amounts of money and resources. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth! For instance, as a liberal, I'm actually okay with some people becoming ludicrously wealthy while others live modestly. What I don't support is: 1) People earning their ludicrous wealth through immoral means (e.g. by selling toxic products while presenting them as safe and healthy) 2) Some people having to live without basic necessities Now, I would like to see some wealth redistributed to make sure those two bad things don't happen, but I don't see 100% even distribution as being necessary to achieve those goals (or even desirable!) And even the most ardent Marxist wouldn't support 100% equal distribution of resources - "To each according to his needs" necessarily implies unequal distribution. Some people - children, the elderly, people with disabilities, etc. - are simply needier than others, so those would each get larger shares of resources than others. So stop trying to take on that particular strawman.
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Pththya-lyi posted:as a liberal, hisss
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Let's talk about something else for a bit. There is a reason why I keep coming back here and posting. Most political internet forums are populated by people who don't know anything. They frankly aren't any fun to participate in. But on the other hand, this is not a way to have a debate. I'd be happy to debate just one of you or a small number of those who are serious, but taking on thirty at once is unwieldy at best. I'd like to take a break from this for a moment and just ask an open ended question. What are you guys into besides politics and posting on the internet? Do any of you have degrees? What are your hobbies? Speaking for myself, I'm a young guy who likes exercising, playing basketball, listening to music, watching movies, going to parties, and being creative. I run a couple part-time internet businesses, and my dream in the future is to grow them into being able to sustain a full income so I can quit my day job. Contrary to what many of you have insinuated, I was not born of privilege. My parents were working class. I was raised in a 1200 square foot 1960s-era house in a not particularly great neighborhood. Luckily my parents valued my education, so I was fortunate enough to attend a private school for most of my formal education. My parents went into debt to send me there and I was on a scholarship that helped pay for my education. What about y'all? What are your hobbies outside of ridiculing libertarians on internet forums? 
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jrodefeld posted:Let's talk about something else for a bit. No, tell me why shareholder votes do not bog down the operation of publicly traded corporations in endless deliberation and lead inevitably to poor leadership and inefficient operations, but employee votes would.
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jrodefeld posted:Most political internet forums are populated by people who don't know anything. I will respond to this in a language you are familiar with, the language of non-agression: SAY THAT loving poo poo TO ME IRL! I WILL CURBSTOMP YOUR FACE IN!
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Hey you're back! And when I'm awake!jrodefeld posted:Let's talk about something else for a bit. There is a reason why I keep coming back here and posting. Most political internet forums are populated by people who don't know anything. They frankly aren't any fun to participate in. But on the other hand, this is not a way to have a debate. I'd be happy to debate just one of you or a small number of those who are serious, but taking on thirty at once is unwieldy at best. Must... refrain... from gangbang jokes. quote:I'd like to take a break from this for a moment and just ask an open ended question. What are you guys into besides politics and posting on the internet? Do any of you have degrees? What are your hobbies? Gangbangs. Damnit! Jokes aside I'm a writer with a hobby of making fun libertarians on the internet. Also video games. Also I love me some Gundam. Also... well honestly just check my posting history. While you're at it maybe you could stop by some of the other forums here instead of solely coming to SA to proselytize about libertarianism. A big part of the reason you get poo poo on so heavily when you post here is that you know nothing about goon culture. I was quite serious in my first post of this thread that it baffled me that after what... two, three years, you still don't understand that you should put a tag on your posts before you post them (or that you shouldn't post them at all and should instead go to the designated thread for the subject or make a thread solely for your brand of crazy). I don't mean this to be mean by the way, I'm trying to be honest with you. In the cinema thread we have a poster called Supermechagodzilla. He is the most insufferable rear end I've ever encountered, and nearly two hundred posters have him on ignore, but he is still around and posting because he gets the culture and pokes around in other places from time to time relevant to his interests. quote:Speaking for myself, I'm a young guy who likes exercising, playing basketball, listening to music, watching movies, going to parties, and being creative. I run a couple part-time internet businesses, and my dream in the future is to grow them into being able to sustain a full income so I can quit my day job. Check out You look like poo poo, the goon exercise thread. They helped me lose a lot of weight before my wedding. Check out Creative Convention or the techie nerd threads and I bet you'd learn a thing or two that might help your businesses. I got my start as a writer based off a discussion I had in a thread a couple of years back. This can indeed be a place where you do other things than argue about An-capism. You might even mellow a tad. Goons are cool! quote:Contrary to what many of you have insinuated, I was not born of privilege. My parents were working class. I was raised in a 1200 square foot 1960s-era house in a not particularly great neighborhood. Luckily my parents valued my education, so I was fortunate enough to attend a private school for most of my formal education. My parents went into debt to send me there and I was on a scholarship that helped pay for my education. You were doing so well. Don't get snippy now.  When you post things like this consider your readership. Many of the people who get annoyed about that loan from grandma thing are annoyed because the context of that was you arguing a position they feel would be taking away healthcare from the poorest amongst us. You were arguing that people could just accept charity, as you did, without realizing that many people do not have the same sort of support structure you grew up in. That many people come from a broken home with a single mother who can barely feed them. I'm not trying to argue with you here, just provide you context for why people get annoyed at you. From the sounds of things you're pretty solidly middle class, same as I was. And that is fine, people just want you to understand that no one is an island, and that even the middle class are wildly successful compared to the very poor who they believe your policies would hurt the most. Edit: As an aside... have you hosed a watermelon. Inquiring minds want to know and you'd seem a hell of a lot more relatable if you could get out of your own rear end and answer the question.
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If you want to talk about other things, there's a ton of sub forums for you to peruse. Hell, you can look at our post history and see what some of us are into. Seriously, you'll get a lot farther in life if you take time to learn your audience. It's like you put no effort into learning the culture, start inserting yourself into the dynamic by making an rear end of yourself, and then getting upset that people are treating you harshly. I'm not trying to rail on you. It seems like you have no awareness of how you come across. Like, go into the other forums. See what interests you. Post in there like a normal person. You might see some drama follow you, but they'll stamp it out, unless you talk about basketball like you talk about politics.
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Hey you're back rear end in a top hat. So when will you be "voting with your feet" and setting off for a bright future of indentured servitude in Dubai?
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Cemetry Gator posted:If you want to talk about other things, there's a ton of sub forums for you to peruse. Hell, you can look at our post history and see what some of us are into. The aliens in Space Jam did nothing wrong, they were merely attempting to enforce contract rights over the looney toons... or something. I don't know anything about basketball.
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Caros posted:Hey you're back! And when I'm awake! Nope, never hosed a watermelon. Have you? All right, I'll mellow out and check out some of the rest of the forum. By the way, who do you write for? I play some video games myself, not as much as I used to. I think I recall from a previous post, you mentioned you play some World of Warcraft? Am I remembering that correctly? I could never get into those sorts of games personally, but I'll play an RPG or two once in a while.
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THANK YOU! And yes! All the loving time! I screw them in the morning, in the evening, they're just so ripe and fresh. Our long national nightmare is finally over. quote:All right, I'll mellow out and check out some of the rest of the forum. By the way, who do you write for? I'm a self publisher of sci-fi and a ghost writer for some garbage fantasy books that have sold alarmingly (annoyingly because I have to write more) well. quote:I play some video games myself, not as much as I used to. I think I recall from a previous post, you mentioned you play some World of Warcraft? Am I remembering that correctly? I could never get into those sorts of games personally, but I'll play an RPG or two once in a while. I play wow for about a month every expansion. Mostly its strategy games and RPGs for me but I've run the gamut.
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Breaking gimmick for a second: most of us act like assholes here because D&D's posting culture generally encourages that kind of posting, for better or worse. Here I'm an rear end in a top hat harping on you for whatever strikes me as your worst post of that day. Hop over to Batman's Shameful Secret on the other hand, and I'm explaining that I don't like posting about "thread opinion" on comic books because it alienates posters, and even if 99% of us dislike the new Uncanny Avengers, we shouldn't say stuff like "I'm glad we all agree Uncanny Avengers was terrible" because it spoils the thread for the few people that did like it. Not that BSS is totally devoid of assholery (people have very strong feelings on their Batmans), but you don't see the kind of constant mockery like in your threads because even if you had bizarre and terrible opinions there's just nothing fun about posting "Jrod likes Red Hood, what a weirdo," over and over again.
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DrProsek posted:Breaking gimmick for a second: most of us act like assholes here because D&D's posting culture generally encourages that kind of posting, for better or worse. Here I'm an rear end in a top hat harping on you for whatever strikes me as your worst post of that day. Hop over to Batman's Shameful Secret on the other hand, and I'm explaining that I don't like posting about "thread opinion" on comic books because it alienates posters, and even if 99% of us dislike the new Uncanny Avengers, we shouldn't say stuff like "I'm glad we all agree Uncanny Avengers was terrible" because it spoils the thread for the few people that did like it. Not that BSS is totally devoid of assholery (people have very strong feelings on their Batmans), but you don't see the kind of constant mockery like in your threads because even if you had bizarre and terrible opinions there's just nothing fun about posting "Jrod likes Red Hood, what a weirdo," over and over again. Politics in general is a touchy subject. Vaccination talk for example will bring me into a near blinding rage because I've seen my young niece hacking her lungs up in agony because she couldn't be vaccinated and other people were too irresponsible to keep up their end of the social contract. Its simply hard to get as consistently angry about things that don't matter, such as Batmans compared to things that do like lifesaving healthcare and the distribution thereof.
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jrodefeld posted:Let's talk about something else for a bit. "i'm getting dogpiled on, so let's stop talking about that, because i don't have an answer" you're a coward, jrode. you're a basic bitch and a coward. you won't even have the stones to make another tough guy post at me, because you know i won't back down. run away, little man.
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jrodefeld posted:'d be happy to debate just one of you or a small number of those who are serious, but taking on thirty at once is unwieldy at best. every time you say this, caros offers to debate you one on one, and every time you ignore him. do you know why, jrode? it's because you're a coward. you lack the courage to do more than spout empty words, you lack the conviction to stand behind your beliefs. wimp DrProsek posted:Breaking gimmick for a second: most of us act like assholes here because D&D's posting culture generally encourages that kind of posting, for better or worse. Here I'm an rear end in a top hat harping on you for whatever strikes me as your worst post of that day. Hop over to Batman's Shameful Secret on the other hand, and I'm explaining that I don't like posting about "thread opinion" on comic books because it alienates posters, and even if 99% of us dislike the new Uncanny Avengers, we shouldn't say stuff like "I'm glad we all agree Uncanny Avengers was terrible" because it spoils the thread for the few people that did like it. Not that BSS is totally devoid of assholery (people have very strong feelings on their Batmans), but you don't see the kind of constant mockery like in your threads because even if you had bizarre and terrible opinions there's just nothing fun about posting "Jrod likes Red Hood, what a weirdo," over and over again. not me, i'm just an rear end in a top hat to him because he's a coward and a dickhead
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Literally The Worst posted:"i'm getting dogpiled on, so let's stop talking about that, because i don't have an answer" Oh come on, basic bitch? You gotta go full masculine and call him a beta. I just find it hilarious when people use that insult.
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Caros posted:Oh come on, basic bitch? You gotta go full masculine and call him a beta. basic bitch is at least fun to say, beta is some idiot baby redpill poo poo fun fact You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack is about jrode. he's a coward.
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jrodefeld since you asked I have a strong interest in aviation. How would an equivalent to our system of navigation aids, standardized runway markings and lights, airspace divisions, and air traffic control have come into existence if created purely by profit-seeking private actors? Be specific.
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jrodefeld posted:Let's talk about something else for a bit. There is a reason why I keep coming back here and posting. Most political internet forums are populated by people who don't know anything. They frankly aren't any fun to participate in. But on the other hand, this is not a way to have a debate. I'd be happy to debate just one of you or a small number of those who are serious, but taking on thirty at once is unwieldy at best. Hiking, TV, paddleboarding, video games, huge tea snob, environmental activism. I was working on a marine bio degree ages ago but dropped out and plan to come back to that, more on that later. jrodefeld posted:Contrary to what many of you have insinuated, I was not born of privilege. My parents were working class. I was raised in a 1200 square foot 1960s-era house in a not particularly great neighborhood. Luckily my parents valued my education, so I was fortunate enough to attend a private school for most of my formal education. My parents went into debt to send me there and I was on a scholarship that helped pay for my education. Ok so here's the thing. I'm not going to mince words here I was too crazy for university. Had a series of breakdowns under pressure and a couple suicide attempts and I've spent the past 9 years working on my mental health and keeping myself sustained with poo poo jobs. If my family wasn't as rich as they are I would not have the luxury of living like this to deal with my issues. If there was significant debt attached to my education I would have kept on regardless and cracked for good, either killing myself or showing up to class with a rifle or something like that. So my hat's off to you Jrod, my time preference is poo poo compared to yours. That said, this is also why I'm so diametrically opposed to your vision of a perfect society, I know there are millions out there dealing with what I have to deal with without the support network I got, and I'd like to fix that.
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DarklyDreaming posted:Hiking, TV, paddleboarding, video games, huge tea snob. I was working on a marine bio degree ages ago but dropped out and plan to come back to that, more on that later. Marine biology and a tea fetish? You're a worse loving person than Jro- quote:Ok so here's the thing. I'm not going to mince words here I was too crazy for university. Had a series of breakdowns under pressure and a couple suicide attempts and I've spent the past 9 years working on my mental health and keeping myself sustained with poo poo jobs. If my family wasn't as rich as they are I would not have the luxury of living like this to deal with my issues. If there was significant debt attached to my education I would have kept on regardless and cracked for good, either killing myself or showing up to class with a rifle or something like that. So my hat's off to you Jrod, my time preference is poo poo compared to yours. That said, this is also why I'm so diametrically opposed to your vision of a perfect society, I know there are millions out there dealing with what I have to deal with without the support network I got, and I'd like to fix that. Oh... I'm glad you didn't do anything bad DD, you're good people.
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Caros posted:Also I love me some Gundam. Have you checked out any of Iron Blooded Orphans yet? So far it seems like a reasonable prediction of how DRO's would act in the Space Robot Future.
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my interests are comics, making GBS threads on idiots on the forums, comics, quantum physics, comics, baseball, and comics. also? i like comics.
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paragon1 posted:Have you checked out any of Iron Blooded Orphans yet? So far it seems like a reasonable prediction of how DRO's would act in the Space Robot Future. IBO is the poo poo. I've been keeping out of the Gundam threads because I've gotten sick of arguing with some people, but thus far the agreement seems to be that IBO is amazing.
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gently caress, my major hobby still involves shitposting on the forums while drinking and watching anime. I am basically crazy though if that helps.
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Caros posted:Marine biology and a tea fetish? You're a worse loving person than Jro- Yeah something I picked up from my current job. It makes me annoying as gently caress  And yeah thanks
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DarklyDreaming posted:k so here's the thing. I'm not going to mince words here I was too crazy for university. Had a series of breakdowns under pressure and a couple suicide attempts and I've spent the past 9 years working on my mental health and keeping myself sustained with poo poo jobs. If my family wasn't as rich as they are I would not have the luxury of living like this to deal with my issues. If there was significant debt attached to my education I would have kept on regardless and cracked for good, either killing myself or showing up to class with a rifle or something like that. So my hat's off to you Jrod, my time preference is poo poo compared to yours. That said, this is also why I'm so diametrically opposed to your vision of a perfect society, I know there are millions out there dealing with what I have to deal with without the support network I got, and I'd like to fix that. i've tried college four times, cracked under pressure and dropped out four times, finally managed to move out at 24, and a year later finally realized i'm not emotionally/mentally/financially able to take care of myself and now i'm about to move back in with my mom so i can take advantage of her insurance for a few more months and start working on getting some help and maybe getting into the system that's why i'm so opposed to lolbert poo poo: i would not have those things. i would be left to the whims of charity, which means i would be crazy and poor and dead
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jrodefeld posted:I'd like to take a break from this for a moment and just ask an open ended question. What are you guys into besides politics and posting on the internet? Do any of you have degrees? What are your hobbies? I'm a senior mechanical engineering student right now, concentrating in manufacturing and machining processes. My current side project is machining small models of cats, but I also do a lot of cooking. Any chance you're into food? We could trade recipes. I'm also employed by the school machine shop to do tool management, order supplies, assist with student project work, and teach classes. One of the classes I teach is a re-education program for long-term unemployed workers, training them on machine tool operation and programming. Over the six or so years we've been running this program, we've trained a couple hundred people, with a 98% placement rate in local industry. This has resulted in an estimated $200 million in benefits to the local economy: the wages paid to the workers, increased productivity for the companies, reduced welfare checks, etc. The government has done the math, and the cost to train a student is recouped entirely within 3 months solely by reduced welfare checks and paying taxes. So. Tell me how this is wrong. It takes people who would otherwise be useless to the companies, which are highly reluctant to train their own workers even in light of the huge nationwide shortage, gets them not just jobs but good jobs, paying on average $18 per hour starting wage, with literally nothing but benefits for the society. It's revenue positive for tax payers. Explain to me how this work is immoral. (But really I do give you kudos for trying to branch out and calm this discussion down. Your utter disengagement with anything else on this website is definitely a lot of the reason people accuse you of proselytizing.)
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Oct 16, 2015 05:03
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Missionaries do better when they integrate themselves into the local population and prove useful and interesting. No one likes annoying preachy people. Don't let him turn you guys. Why are we helping him?
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Oct 16, 2015 05:25
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Nevvy Z posted:Missionaries do better when they integrate themselves into the local population and prove useful and interesting. No one likes annoying preachy people. I want to be sure he's not a robot. Until he tells me what his favorite TV show is I'm having trouble seeing him as a person and not some kind of markov-chain algorithm designed by one of Hans-Hermann Hoppe's interns to most efficiently preach ancapism to the masses.
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Literally The Worst posted:i've tried college four times, cracked under pressure and dropped out four times, finally managed to move out at 24, and a year later finally realized i'm not emotionally/mentally/financially able to take care of myself and now i'm about to move back in with my mom so i can take advantage of her insurance for a few more months and start working on getting some help and maybe getting into the system So those poor fucks, who'd never been raised by teachers who stressed the importance of learning things, who were willing (however incorrectly) to trust me to figure it out, who had busted their loving asses to save money, who didn't necessarily have a stable family to fall back on, who didn't have friends to help bail them out, or who were just unlucky in any myriad of ways that I happened to miss, were sticking it out and need some help, desperately. I ended up in critical care nursing for two reasons: a friend of mine happened to take an anatomy class and tell me it was really cool and one of my mom's friends worked as an ICU director and was able to get me a job as a nursing assistant and saving me from EMS. I am only here, able to post obnoxious poo poo on the internet, because I loving lucked out at being born when I was, where I was, to whom I was, and to meet the people I did. That's a loving poo poo way to run a society. I dodged a ton of bullets and still feel like I am a bad injury away (in an industry where 13% of people who quit cite crippling back pain as the reason) away from being broke and unable to support myself or my rapidly aging parents. My EMS coworkers worked overtime, skipped out on seeing their kids grow up because they were working, all so they could scrape together enough money to hopefully get out of there by going to community colleges while I floated prettily along working part-time so I didn't just completely live on loans. And in the area where I grew up, I was basically one of the "poor" kids. The contrast was huge. Where would I have ended up if I hadn't lost three years of my life because of a perceived lack of access to mental health care? And where would I have ended up if everything hadn't worked out just so? I need a quicker, pithier way to describe "there but for the grace of god, go I" because its basically one of the most important sentiments of my life. Except I believe that if someone needs that grace, we hosed up. We don't need god, society can drat well do it by itself. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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