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i want azami to get blown away by somas cooking and join the harem the ultimate tsun character
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The tone of the manga hasn't really changed all that much even with Azami's intro. It's always been over the top in most if not every aspect.
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Oct 17, 2015 08:33
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Compendium posted:The tone of the manga hasn't really changed all that much even with Azami's intro. It's always been over the top in most if not every aspect. Well, it went from being very serious about food to child abuse.
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Oct 17, 2015 10:11
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Serious Frolicking posted:Well, it went from being very serious about food to child abuse. About 75% of all dads in Shokugeki no Soma are horrible. See: Nikumi's, Mimasaka's, Soma's Akira was a literal homeless orphan getting the poo poo kicked out of him by adults, so clearly he had the worst dad - the streets. This manga has always made occasional hard left turns into dire poo poo.
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Oct 17, 2015 10:18
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Patware posted:About 75% of all dads in Shokugeki no Soma are horrible. We know Nikumi's Dad? Also, Azami is an even worse dad then all of them. Even moreso than the streets, because Hayama seems pretty well adjusted at least.
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Oct 17, 2015 10:30
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SyntheticPolygon posted:We know Nikumi's Dad? We do. We see him from the shoulders-down in flashback when she's chowing down on Soma's don during their shokugeki. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Oct 17, 2015 10:33
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So I guess this is when Polar Star becomes the headquarters of the Resistance, fighting against the evil Central? (I don't like the tonal shift either, by the way, but I'm willing to give this manga a pass since it's done lots of good things in the past.)
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Oct 17, 2015 10:59
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KoB posted:I think the story beat is kinda dumb and forced but I still like the characters The story beat is....actually less dumb than it sounds because Azami is turning it into more of a regular school when you think about it, it just has less classes. I don't think the average grade school expects the participants to make their own dishes or fail out.
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Oct 17, 2015 11:02
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Here's the new chapter by the way. Everyone is still totally a sacrificial pawn. Just now all for "central's" sake rather than for whoever has the talent and the will to work their way up from the bottom. I actually kinda like this thematically. It's getting rid of everyone's individuality and unique skills just to make them facsimiles of the chosen few. What could be more heinous to the development of talented young chefs? Also, i'm liking bad Dad's evil faces. He's good at them.
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Oct 17, 2015 11:43
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There's an officially coloured version of him on his throne of skulls that I want to get but my phone is slow as hell.
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Oct 17, 2015 11:49
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Compendium posted:The tone of the manga hasn't really changed all that much even with Azami's intro. It's always been over the top in most if not every aspect. SyntheticPolygon posted:Here's the new chapter by the way. Nope, no tone whiplash whatsoever. I did like Hisako going sneaky  in getting clothes to Polar Star.
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Oct 17, 2015 13:36
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Everyone posted:Tone shift you know you love it, don't you loving lie to me  look at that face. LOOK AT IT
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Oct 17, 2015 13:50
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Alacron posted:you know you love it, don't you loving lie to me I'm imagining you saying that while looking like this. Alpha Kenny Juan fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Oct 17, 2015 13:53
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While there is a bit of tone whiplash, it seems pretty standard for what's essentially a battle shonen, but with food. This is the beginning of the new conflict for the arc so the stakes have to be presented with a certain level of seriousness. Once that's established, then the tone can soften back to normal levels. Obviously, next chapter, someone's going to set up a Shokugeki and challenge the dissolution of the Dorm to maintain its existence or Fumio might step up and show her skills.
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Oct 17, 2015 14:50
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I think at this point, Soma and some of his friends are gonna get training from the school's alumni/professors so enough can beat the elite 10 to change everything back.
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Oct 17, 2015 15:55
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Here's the new chapter by the way. Oh my stars and garters! He is trying to force his vision of the perfect cook making the perfect gourmet food onto the entire student body of Tootsuki now! Not just on Erina! On paper, that means everyone will indeed have a higher chance for graduating. In practice, they will all become fascimiles of Azami's vision of the perfect cook, who will only cook food according to what Azami (and the Elite Ten) deems as the proper way. So yeah, I agree. He's essentially making everyone in Tootsuki into pawns for his ambitions and his vision of the perfect cook (and kicking out everyone who doesn't conform to his views), in order to force his view onto the entire food world. The end result would be that his word on what is good food ends up being the law.
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Oct 17, 2015 16:12
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Alacron posted:you know you love it, don't you loving lie to me Those glasses are stylish as gently caress though. 
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Oct 17, 2015 16:28
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Man, the art is so loving good in this series.
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Oct 17, 2015 16:36
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What's nice about this dude being all cartoonishly evil and taking out the dorm and societies and such is that it means he'll probably just be a short-term villain and not stick around for the long run.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:00
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Alacron posted:you know you love it, don't you loving lie to me Please someone tell me that the manga is doing well enough to guarantee a 2nd season. I can't wait for Sugita to channel his oily-smug voice through this fantastic rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:36
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:Nope, no tone whiplash whatsoever. Alacron posted:you know you love it, don't you loving lie to me
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Oct 17, 2015 17:49
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Azami's plan isn't bad. Meritocracies are terrible.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:52
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Neo_Crimson posted:Azami's plan isn't bad. Meritocracies are terrible. I'm thinking that they're going to have to find a happy medium where they allow the individuality of the students flow creatively again like before, but with a lesser expulsion rate.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:55
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So, is this gonna end with Azami getting replaced? Or is there going to be a redemption arc where he
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Neo_Crimson posted:Azami's plan isn't bad. Meritocracies are terrible. 
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Oct 17, 2015 19:38
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Alacron posted:So, is this gonna end with Azami getting replaced? Or is there going to be a redemption arc where he Azami's foodgasm reaction will be him opening his eyes wide. Calling it now.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:57
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Neo_Crimson posted:Azami's plan isn't bad. Meritocracies are terrible. Early on it was mentioned that even being in Tootsuki at all was good for your resume, so it still works out even for people who fell behind.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:48
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Neo_Crimson posted:Azami's plan isn't bad. Meritocracies are terrible. Imagine if this was an art school
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Oct 17, 2015 23:38
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ahahaha this arc is so dumb i love it
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Oct 17, 2015 23:39
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What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our cuisine and our chefs, the sustenance of our dishes and the purity of our food, the freedom and independence of Tootstuki, so that our people may mature for the fulfilment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility
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Oct 17, 2015 23:41
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kidcoelacanth posted:What's nice about this dude being all cartoonishly evil and taking out the dorm and societies and such is that it means he'll probably just be a short-term villain and not stick around for the long run. I don't know if he's going to be short-term necessarily, but I can't see him being in charge of Tootsuki for too long. Since his whole plan kinda gets rid of any of the characters actually being able to improve as cooks and all.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Azami's plan isn't bad. Meritocracies are terrible. Aristocracies are much much worse.
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Uh, exactly where are they going to get replacements for the current elite 10 after they graduate, then?
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paragon1 posted:Aristocracies are much much worse. They tend to be the same thing in practice.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Uh, exactly where are they going to get replacements for the current elite 10 after they graduate, then? azami would probably elect the students he personally feels best exemplify gourmet cooking.
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Oct 18, 2015 02:09
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Davincie posted:What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our cuisine and our chefs, the sustenance of our dishes and the purity of our food, the freedom and independence of Tootstuki, so that our people may mature for the fulfilment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility
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Oct 18, 2015 02:36
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Elfgames posted:azami would probably elect the students he personally feels best exemplify gourmet cooking. Yes, but none of them would have any experience in developing their own dishes and techniques. So, since anyone on the new elite 10 would have to enroll in tootsuki fully trained exactly what is the point of the school? It is actually counterproductive for Azami's goal, since that would result in vast numbers of mediocre graduates and both fewer and less skilled elites.
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Oct 18, 2015 02:55
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Serious Frolicking posted:Yes, but none of them would have any experience in developing their own dishes and techniques. So, since anyone on the new elite 10 would have to enroll in tootsuki fully trained exactly what is the point of the school? It is actually counterproductive for Azami's goal, since that would result in vast numbers of mediocre graduates and both fewer and less skilled elites. He'd probably just choose among first years who haven't actually been part of the system yet. It's like the chapter says he divides the school into two groups, if anyone joins that he thinks exemplifies the qualities of a chef they'll probably immediately become part of Central. Nobody not from Central is going to be able to move up. Of course that means it's going to be a failure of a school, that's why his plan is a loving dumb idea that people should oppose. The only students he cares about improving are the Elite, the purpose of the school is now for the people in Central to continue to hone their skills while everyone else just copies them. Azami doesn't care about producing skilled graduates, all he cares about is making cooking all about those he considers elite. Everyone else is just supposed to copy them because they aren't worthy of being chefs. It's basically him applying all that dumb poo poo he said in his introduction to Tootsuki's curriculum. And this is represented by him sitting on a mountain of skulls. It's the best. 
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Azami's putting the school on the fast track to irrelevancy.Neo_Crimson posted:They tend to be the same thing in practice. No, you might get aristocracies calling themselves meritocracies, but that doesn't make them the same thing.
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The basic premise of this setting is that food battles improve cooking skill. Azami's 1000 year food reich fundamentally rejects this idea. Any new members of the elite 10 won't have gotten there via shokugekis, they will probably just be chosen because of their preexisting skill sets which means their talents and experience won't progress as much. I'm really not sure how much of this will be dramatically declared in front of an audience, whose minds are then blown. Also they probably end up drooling?
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