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Malek posted:Uh. No? It's got a pretty antiquated 50 point system. It could be vastly improved with a tighter tree and one point per skill so you don't have to consult a wiki to understand it.
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Reason posted:Payday 2's skill tree sucks though Perfect or no, it adds another dimension to the game, and that would be a good dimension to add to this game as well.
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Vargs posted:Really liking the Bright Wizard. I was worried that her mechanic would be too limiting, but if you make sure to vent every few seconds to stay out of the red zone, you can be lighting rats on fire the vast majority of the time. Which works astonishingly well. And when poo poo hits the fan and someone is being carried off by a packmaster while everyone else is getting swamped by clanrats and there's a ratling gunner tearing the group apart, you can really get stuff done if you just say "gently caress it" and unload. I can't decide which staff to go with though. I like all of them except bolt. Depends on the staff you're using. If it's the Beam Staff, the Beam, if it's the Conflag? The firebolt. Just figure out which gives you single target DPS for the least heat. Now to work on not catching every other swing from the drat things while hitting it with a Warhammer or Arming Sword.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:30
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/kwosge I'm downloading this game now. It better be good.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:34
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The bolt staff is pretty fun but requires much better aim than I have. Being able to take out gunners or globadiers with one charged headshot is nice, though. Same goes for witch hunter's crossbow
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Oct 17, 2015 17:44
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The pubbies in this game remind me of the early L4D2 day. Some of them dont even know how to pick up health packs. Also, give me my drat flamesword game! No, i do not want yet another conflagration staff, just gimme a burnysword!
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Oct 17, 2015 17:49
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I keep getting loot for the waywatcher... As the dwarf.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:52
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Tight room? Rat ogre? Three specials? Sometimes this game just shits on you.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:01
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I want to play this game but my laptop isn't up for it  I hope this won't be a fad like Evolve or Titanfall and be over by the time I can actually play it in December.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:08
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Demiurge4 posted:I want to play this game but my laptop isn't up for it It's visceral enough that I can see myself picking it up whenever I feel like some mindless slaying for a while. DLC will hopefully spice things up with new heroes, enemies and game modes.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:21
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If there is anything i hope they do its the ability to pick an item within the range you rolled on the dice. I have missed so many useful items due to rolling one die too high.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:55
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I really hope they find a way to make a Versus mode work. VV I just played the first mission on Easy to explore and only finished with one tome, got a green shotgun 
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Oct 17, 2015 18:58
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Plavski posted:Tight room? Rat ogre? Three specials? Sometimes this game just shits on you. I just finished my first mission with 3 tomes, 2 grimores and 2 cursed dice. Naturally, everything except the grimore dice came up blank 
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Oct 17, 2015 19:03
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MadJackMcJack posted:I just finished my first mission with 3 tomes, 2 grimores and 2 cursed dice. Naturally, everything except the grimore dice came up blank Watched a guy in a stream get the top blue on a normal game. Big fuckoff hammer for the soldier, then he got a green rifle with 50% reload speed. It's not too popular with streamers though. I watched the excalibur guy do a stream earlier today with 3k viewers but most of the time it's small streams with maybe 100 people.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:27
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I'm up for shooting rats in the face. Just picked the game up http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197989590170/
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Oct 17, 2015 19:31
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Demiurge4 posted:Watched a guy in a stream get the top blue on a normal game. Big fuckoff hammer for the soldier, then he got a green rifle with 50% reload speed. It's cheap and fun to play. gently caress streams, hit things!
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Oct 17, 2015 19:39
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Surprising no one, elf players seem to be the worst of the crop. Either they are MLG-rushing ahead only to get grabbed or pounced, or they are lagging behind playing sniper with the same results.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:40
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Let's kill rats together! http://steamcommunity.com/id/unicornicus
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Oct 17, 2015 19:53
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I hope streamers like my game. So is witch hunter suppose d to be this fun?
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Oct 17, 2015 20:03
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Hard is not much harder than normal and gives much better loot.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:03
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Added a bunch of people on Steam, here's mine: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198001973908/BombiTheZombie posted:Surprising no one, elf players seem to be the worst of the crop. Either they are MLG-rushing ahead only to get grabbed or pounced, or they are lagging behind playing sniper with the same results. To be fair, long range specialist seems to be the hardest role to pull off in this kind of game. My huge experience of 4 maps tell me so.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:28
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Vermintide: That rat called me a oval office! This game owns now.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:31
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The elf isn't even a long range specialist, they're meant to be a skirmisher. If you're boring and stupid and not fun you'll try to play it like a long range specialist, but it's not.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:31
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/this_id_does_not_exist This game is pretty cool and I get an acceptable framerate on my piece of poo poo laptop if I turn down the resolution, hooray.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:32
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Game is a blast, currently topping the steam charts. I personally hope that fatshark find other ways to make the game fresh and exciting than to introduce yet another skill-tree-level-up deal.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:35
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That's cool we have so many takers, but ya'll need to join the group in get on the CTS mumble channel if you want to hook up. (Group if Goonintide in case anyone missed it)
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Trilin posted:Game is a blast, currently topping the steam charts. I personally hope that fatshark find other ways to make the game fresh and exciting than to introduce yet another skill-tree-level-up deal. Thank god. The AI is somewhat retarded so I was worried that it wouldn't really build a community. Thankfully that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:41
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Bogarts posted:Hard is not much harder than normal and gives much better loot. Filthy lies, standard skaven hits for almost a full block of health and Hard removes like 90% of healing items and potions (including starting kit)  Then again, normal mode is perfectly good at loving you up if you make mistakes / just spawns a shitload at the wrong time. The top two difficulties gotta be loving merciless "get hit 3 times by a skaven slave = dead"
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Oct 17, 2015 20:44
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Pimpmust posted:Filthy lies, standard skaven hits for almost a full block of health and Hard removes like 90% of healing items and potions (including starting kit) On the other hand high level trinkets make things a lot easier. There's one that causes health items used to also heal those around you, and one that gives you a chance to not consume a health item when used. You can stack them together.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:50
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Pimpmust posted:Filthy lies, standard skaven hits for almost a full block of health and Hard removes like 90% of healing items and potions (including starting kit) I've only really noticed that they remove the starting health item. Maybe I'm just playing with more experienced people so I didn't notice the jump.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:53
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Pimpmust posted:Filthy lies, standard skaven hits for almost a full block of health and Hard removes like 90% of healing items and potions (including starting kit) Stormvermin and Rat Ogres kill you in two hits flat on merciless, and from what ive heard Stormvermin take off 90% of your health on cataclysm. You also deal 100% friendly fire damage with ranged weapons and bombs. Enjoy!
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Oct 17, 2015 20:54
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Yeah okay I can see higher level equipment and trinkets helping out a lot, as for differences I've noticed just tonight on Normal you can pretty much *not* go into a building/room-behind-a-door without bumping into some sort of stash of potions, health-kits, ammo bags or bombs (or any combination). On hard we were scampering for stuff like ammunition between the fixed spots and health... well maybe if we were lucky there'd be one potion or health kit in between the event rooms/finale. The difference is big enough that you could easily have 1 more difficulty mode jammed in between normal and hard (veteran?) with either just the item changes or the skaven buffs of hard.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:58
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Hard isn't much harder than Normal as long as everyone has gotten used to the combat. Blocking is required on Hard to avoid wasting huge amounts of health. I wish people would catch on to healing potions being much more effective if used right after being revived, since it turns your temporary health into permanent health. Meaning you end up with almost full health.
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Dezztroy posted:Hard isn't much harder than Normal as long as everyone has gotten used to the combat. Blocking is required on Hard to avoid wasting huge amounts of health. drat are you making GBS threads me? That isn't explained anywhere and I figure most people would assume it's like L4D in that it's just your temp health or pills.
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averox posted:assume it's like L4D Number 1 reason for people failing missions 
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Oct 17, 2015 21:16
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Not going to even joke around that what attracted me to this game was that it looked like Left 4 Warhams. Playing with goons has been very good. Pubs on the other hand have been pretty amazing in a bad way. Played with a pub Bright Wiz who was at something around 80% and burned all the way into the red by dumping fire at a pack. Never again. Joining that Goonintide and playing with goons from CTS Mumble from now on.
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Malek posted:Just tried this game and it really feels to me like a skinned over L4D with a less optimized graphics engine and a grindy inventory system. Even more disappointing to hear that the levels don't really do much. Since the whole "Payday 2 CS:GO gun skins transactions" thingy I was hopeful. In addition to what everyone else said, there's also a scaling in-mission difficulty thing where there are hidden items you can grab that take up inventory space and/or debuff your team but which make you get better loot, meaning if you're running into a "difficulty x is too easy, difficulty x+1 is too hard" thing you have access to an intermediary step.
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I honestly couldn't stand L4D, firing weapons in that game was like holding a limp dick with a trickle of piss coming out of it. Meanwhile every gun I've come across so far in Vermintide has made a huge loving bang and feels so satisfying to use when things die.
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Speaking of difficulty I mentioned this in the group I was just in: They probably expect you to do the campaign on normal at least once, and you'll have minimum 13 upgrades/sidegrades from doing each mission and more than likely 5-6 more from levelling. So by the time you hit Hard it'll probably be easier than just wading in with basic white gear. Not that it isn't doable right now of course. There were more than a few nailbiting moments in that hard Supply and Demand we just did though.
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I just grabbed this and played for a bit. I am not displeased. It's really surprisingly fun. The mixture of RPG elements into the L4D formula works REALLY well.
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