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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's a silhouette of Queen Celestia illuminated by the Black Sun rune. The Black Sun is based on old Germanic symbology, and is used by Neopagans and Fascists as a symbol of Aryanism or whatever. They should read enough Nazi history to learn what happened to the Sturmabteilung.
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Motherfuckers probably all figure they're Goering. Well you can't ALL be Goering.
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The most sense I've been able to make of it is that gay reactionaries view women as political opponents, which undermine their full masculine prowess by voting for liberalism and socialism. That's why we need a Masculine Ideology like Fascism or Ancient Athens to put women in their proper place and liberate Men from Leftist femininity. Only then will me, the surely indispensable gay MAN, be able to maximize my power and standing. There's also a weird undercurrent of self-hatred where they would prefer to be kept in the closet, ala Milo.
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Oct 18, 2015 05:46
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's a silhouette of Queen Celestia illuminated by the Black Sun rune. The Black Sun is based on old Germanic symbology, and is used by Neopagans and Fascists as a symbol of Aryanism or whatever. Shame, there is a black sun in Glorantha too, except its in charge of a place called "Bliss in Ignorance" a place that grows huge amounts of drugs and is basically the Aztec empire on steroids. I wonder if the creators of Glorantha knew about this sort of poo poo way back when?
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Oct 18, 2015 06:29
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Stafford's background is in anthropology and drugs, so he probably has.
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Oct 18, 2015 06:38
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Munin posted:Well one thing that can be said about anime is that a sizeable amount of it has a really unreconstructed view of women and that rape is often normalised. Not to mention that huge breasts (and the bigger and more pneumatic the better), wide hips and thin waists who are hanging off the male hero are an ideal of womanhood that they are more than happy to indulge in. Not to spring the weeaboo trap but part of the reason why there's so much garbage anime is that the actual market for heavy anime watchers is pretty much entirely made up of antisocial young men who are willing to spend hundreds on figurines and blu ray releases. This niche has also been shrinking for a while and big parts of the industry are locked into the spiral with it.
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Josef bugman posted:Shame, there is a black sun in Glorantha too, except its in charge of a place called "Bliss in Ignorance" a place that grows huge amounts of drugs and is basically the Aztec empire on steroids. I wonder if the creators of Glorantha knew about this sort of poo poo way back when? I first learned about the Black Sun from Grant Morrison, and I think he included a bibliography or something when he mentioned it.
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Oct 18, 2015 12:20
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Improbable Lobster posted:Not to spring the weeaboo trap but part of the reason why there's so much garbage anime is that the actual market for heavy anime watchers is pretty much entirely made up of antisocial young men who are willing to spend hundreds on figurines and blu ray releases. This niche has also been shrinking for a while and big parts of the industry are locked into the spiral with it. Yup. The same kind of trap comic book publishers in the US had run into. Then they had their most recent revival when they managed to get the properties out to more mainstream audiences and make them more inclusive overall (with much wailing and gnashing of teeth by NRx style people and "traditional" fans). I will be amused if that starts happening in manga and anime and we get to see another set of meltdowns by some of these people.
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Oct 18, 2015 13:51
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"Things that are different are therefore unequal" 1+3=4 40/10=4 (1+3)=(40/10) Gee, that was sure hard to prove wrong.
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Oct 18, 2015 14:54
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:"Things that are different are therefore unequal" Everything in the universe can be rated numerically with perfect objectivity. See IQ, the hallowed ten point scale for female hotness.
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Oct 18, 2015 16:37
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Number mixing is the sure way for the degradation of ariphmetics and the eventual death of the prime numbers culture.
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Oct 18, 2015 17:32
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fatherboxx posted:Number mixing is the sure way for the degradation of ariphmetics and the eventual death of the prime numbers culture. I am reminded of how the Pythagorean school was apparently so horrified by the discovery of incommensurable numbers that they threw the guy who figured it out off of a ship, and made it a deep mystery to be taught to only the highest level of initiates. It was the Roko's Basilisk of the time.
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Oct 18, 2015 18:02
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I am reminded of how the Pythagorean school was apparently so horrified by the discovery of incommensurable numbers that they threw the guy who figured it out off of a ship, and made it a deep mystery to be taught to only the highest level of initiates. Except, you know, not a pile of poo poo.
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Oct 18, 2015 18:17
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Curvature of Earth posted:Except, you know, not a pile of poo poo. When your whole world view and religion is based on the harmony of numbers and whatnot something like irrational numbers will really gently caress you up. e: the equivalent for this thread is nrx and independent women/minorities.
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Oct 18, 2015 18:39
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Munin posted:Yup. The same kind of trap comic book publishers in the US had run into. Then they had their most recent revival when they managed to get the properties out to more mainstream audiences and make them more inclusive overall (with much wailing and gnashing of teeth by NRx style people and "traditional" fans). On the one hand there are some legit mangas that are showing a shred of progressivism, though they're mostly targeted at girls. On the other hand, Madoka won the Seiun award.
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Oct 18, 2015 19:36
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PYF Psychoanalysis Of Anime Fans
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Oct 18, 2015 19:58
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The Vosgian Beast posted:PYF Psychoanalysis Of Anime Fans 1+3=4 40/10=4 (1+3)=(40/10) NRx ≈ Anime Fans
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Oct 18, 2015 20:36
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:On the other hand, Madoka won the Seiun award. You say this like it's a bad thing.
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Oct 18, 2015 20:37
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Munin posted:1+3=4 14/88
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Oct 18, 2015 20:52
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The Vosgian Beast posted:PYF Psychoanalysis Of Anime Fans I'd say the main reason why the Alt-right loves it some anime is because everyone is white and runs the world as it should be. Also they can pretend the only reason they haven't won yet is because they haven't unleashed their full power, like Goku in literally every fight. There that's my psychoanalysis of anime fans
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ArchangeI posted:I'd say the main reason why the Alt-right loves it some anime is because everyone is white Half-true. The Mukokuseki look is definitely part of the appeal to white supremacists, but many if not most anime have an explicitly Japanese setting. quote:and runs the world as it should be. True-ish in Dragon Ball specifically (we're meant to assume the dog guy is doing an OK job). Hardly true of anime in general, even shonen anime. quote:Also they can pretend the only reason they haven't won yet is because they haven't unleashed their full power, like Goku in literally every fight. You might actually be on to something here. The common trope of the main character being simultaneously the weakest and the strongest maps amusingly to that Eco bit we love to quote.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:21
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Anime-AltRight thing is mostly confirmation bias, since it is always hillarious to see some dude on twitter mostly posting big titty animes or robots suddenly go on tirade about muslims or cultural marxism.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:07
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I haven't really watched anime in years but the Attack on Titan theme song sounds like amazing Facist propaganda music about dying young and gloriously for your country.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:13
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Count Chocula posted:I haven't really watched anime in years but the Attack on Titan theme song sounds like amazing Facist propaganda music about dying young and gloriously for your country. You're not the first to suggest that Attack on Titan is kind of fascist. It does have some aspects that complicate this impression, though.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:23
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P. sure Attack on Titan was made by a literal Japanese Nationalist who supports the WWII war crimes, so there's that.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:30
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Silver2195 posted:You say this like it's a bad thing. Yes the grimdark edgy show about little girls turning into monsters because aliens harvest their emotional energy is totally One Of The Good Ones
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Oct 18, 2015 22:55
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Count Chocula posted:I haven't really watched anime in years but the Attack on Titan theme song sounds like amazing Facist propaganda music about dying young and gloriously for your country. It is pretty explicitly about fascism, but it's more of an exploration than a propaganda piece- the government in the setting is explicitly and thoroughly corrupt and wasteful.
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Oct 18, 2015 23:16
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Puppy Time posted:P. sure Attack on Titan was made by a literal Japanese Nationalist who supports the WWII war crimes, so there's that. That's Gate.
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Oct 18, 2015 23:19
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yes the grimdark edgy show about little girls turning into monsters because aliens harvest their emotional energy is totally One Of The Good Ones I hope you enjoy the derail that's about to happen, 'cause I don't. In desperate hopes of avoiding the poo poo that's continuing and the poo poo that's about to happen, Scott and pals cannot stop ceaselessly multiplying divinities.
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ArchangeI posted:I'd say the main reason why the Alt-right loves it some anime is because everyone is white and runs the world as it should be. Also they can pretend the only reason they haven't won yet is because they haven't unleashed their full power, like Goku in literally every fight. It all comes from a racially homogeneous monoculture that refuses to apologize for war crimes perpetrated against another race that it still considers lesser.
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fatherboxx posted:Anime-AltRight thing is mostly confirmation bias, since it is always hillarious to see some dude on twitter mostly posting big titty animes or robots suddenly go on tirade about muslims or cultural marxism. this guy pretty much said it all.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:this guy pretty much said it all. Nope. Crank magnetism suggests that hardcore weeaboos are already inclined to non-mainstream politics. Which means they're also disproportionately radical leftists (which is probably where the "anime communism" insult against Tumblr leftists comes from).
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Curvature of Earth posted:Nope. Crank magnetism suggests that hardcore weeaboos are already inclined to non-mainstream politics. Which means they're also disproportionately radical leftists (which is probably where the "anime communism" insult against Tumblr leftists comes from). Okay sure whatever, I guess we can keep this derail going.
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 (ClarkHat is going by DavidLightman now by the way.)  This man is salivating to kill millions.
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Oct 19, 2015 00:23
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Curvature of Earth posted:
not an uncommon sentiment throughout the entirety of the alt-right and NRx circles. But someone even vaguely to the left criticizing these people is practicing "crocodile humor" and is stifling free speech.
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Oct 19, 2015 00:42
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What we need is a strongman willing to rape Leftists with dogs.
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Oct 19, 2015 00:54
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:What we need is a strongman willing to rape Leftists with dogs. Source your quotes.
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Oct 19, 2015 00:59
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Annointed posted:Source your quotes. He's talking about Pinochet.
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Merdifex posted:not an uncommon sentiment throughout the entirety of the alt-right and NRx circles. But someone even vaguely to the left criticizing these people is practicing "crocodile humor" and is stifling free speech. Rule number one for NRx adjacent people: All statements by people to the left of Scott Alexander must be interpreted as harshly as possible. Read horrifying sentiments into it if nothing untoward is said or implied. Read everything to the right of Scott Alexander with the maximum amount of charity possible, and ignore the horrifying statements if you can't explain them away.
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Ronwayne posted:14/88 The Final Equation
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