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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

seiferguy posted:

Imgur is mansplainin' today:



"Let me tell you about these dominantly male jobs I've worked in to tell you your struggles aren't that big of a deal."

As a guy who had pretty much the same exact job, take a look around and you'll realize that everyone is a lazy complaining rear end in a top hat trying to avoid busy work.

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TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

As a guy who had pretty much the same exact job, take a look around and you'll realize that everyone is a lazy complaining rear end in a top hat trying to avoid busy work.

I've got a blue-collar job and my favorite bit is how everyone is buddy-buddy at the shop, but when we're out working everyone complains (during unscheduled or extended breaks) about how lazy those other guys are.

Also, back to the sexism aspect, the assertive woman(who is no more confrontational than half the guys) is a 'bitch', and the outgoing one clearly has a crush on/is screwing every guy she has a conversation with. Plus none of them get trained on equipment which means no operator pay.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Here's something relevant to that macro:
https://medium.com/absurdist/the-cool-girl-trap-or-why-sexism-in-tech-isn-t-going-away-825b9a7642f5

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



These just popped up on my facebook wall, friend of a friend sort of thing.





The accompanying article about Gov. Mark Dayton is here, Dayton to those questioning refugee resettlement “Find another state.”

Mark Dayton Owns.

Edit: Best quote of the article,

quote:

"Another citizen asked about assimilation into central Minnesota culture, a panel member responded by asking what central Minnesota was doing to become a more inclusive society."

Paint Crop Pro fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Oct 20, 2015

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Goddamnit, it's a teacher I respect too, at least he is a history and government teacher, and not a science teacher

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

OxySnake posted:

Mark Dayton Owns.

Edit: Best quote of the article,

Honestly, my favorite part came out of the comments section. There's plenty of reactionary bullshit and naked racism, but there were a surprising number like this:

quote:

I am the Manager one of the Car dealers in the twin cities, one thing I can tell you honestly the Somalis who show up my lot all work two jobs and put down at least 20% of the vehicle value before they leave the lot, they are the only customers that I see willing to pay that much cash up front, Even though they qualify With their credit ratings a zero down plan.

I am Minnesotan and these people are my dearly customers, they have every right to be here and anyone who want to disguise their racist view under the false patriotic dilemma should really move to somewhere else where they can find a cave to live at 21st century.

:unsmith:

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Keeshhound posted:

Honestly, my favorite part came out of the comments section. There's plenty of reactionary bullshit and naked racism, but there were a surprising number like this:


:unsmith:

What is this? A small glimmer of hope for humanity? What an odd sensation.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

VitalSigns posted:

Goddamnit, it's a teacher I respect too, at least he is a history and government teacher, and not a science teacher


quote:

Abstract

Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. The integrated enterprise embodied in the Nobel Prizewinning work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change existed then as separate threads of research pursued by isolated groups of scientists. Atmospheric chemists and modelers grappled with the measurement of changes in carbon dioxide and atmospheric gases, and the changes in climate that might result. Meanwhile, geologists and paleoclimate researchers tried to understand when Earth slipped into and out of ice ages, and why. An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

[...]

One way to determine what scientists think is to ask them. This was actually done in 1977 following the severe 1976/77 winter in the eastern United States. “Collectively,” the 24 eminent climatologists responding to the survey “tended to anticipate a slight global warming rather than a cooling” (National Defense University Research Directorate 1978). However, given that an opinion survey does not capture the full state of the science of the time, we conducted a rigorous literature review of the American Meteorological Society’s electronic archives as well as those of Nature and the scholarly journal archive Journal Storage (JSTOR). To capture the relevant topics, we used global temperature, global warming, and global cooling, as well as a variety of other less directly relevant search terms. Additionally, in order to make the survey more complete, even at the expense of no longer being fully reproducible by electronic search techniques, many references mentioned in the papers located by these searches were evaluated, as were references mentioned in various history-of-science documents. Because the time period attributed to the global cooling consensus is typically described as the 1970s, the literature search was limited to the period from 1965 through 1979. While no search can be 100% complete, this methodology offers a reasonable test of the hypothesis that there was a scientific consensus in the 1970s regarding the prospect of imminent global cooling. Such a consensus would be easily shown by both the presence of many articles describing global cooling projections and the absence of articles projecting global warming.




The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus ((Click "PDF" near the top for the full paper))

The argument that there was a consensus around global cooling is simply a justification for continued ignorance given how false it really is.

Agents are GO! posted:

What is this? A small glimmer of hope for humanity? What an odd sensation.

Cast it into the fire! Destroy it! :byodood:

Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Oct 20, 2015

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

OxySnake posted:

Mark Dayton Owns.
Mark Dayton was a primary mover and shaker behind the atrocious giveaway of taxpayer money that is the Vikings stadium. He also hopped aboard the DNC-establishment's Hillary bandwagon before she even announced. gently caress him.

Other than that, he's kinda okay I guess. Won't ever see my vote.

The Larch
Jan 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Nevvy Z posted:

There's probably some statistics on whether people who carry are less or more likely to be murdered while being mugged. I have my guess.

?

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Cugel the Clever posted:

Mark Dayton was a primary mover and shaker behind the atrocious giveaway of taxpayer money that is the Vikings stadium. He also hopped aboard the DNC-establishment's Hillary bandwagon before she even announced. gently caress him.

Other than that, he's kinda okay I guess. Won't ever see my vote.

He can be a bit milquetoast. I wish he would be up for legalization, but you have to admit he trolls the Minnesota RNC pretty hard. Good DFLers are the best though

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Mo_Steel posted:

The argument that there was a consensus around global cooling is simply a justification for continued ignorance given how false it really is.

It's hilarious because I understand entirely how the right wing landed "beyond any question that we were 10,000 years overdue for a massive ice age".

Tom: "Heh, hey Bob, look at this microfiche, Time Magazine, 1971. 'Scientists predict imminent ice age'! Bet this'll make the libs' heads explode!"
Bob: "Hey Roger, did you know back in the 70s most scientists thought that there was about to be an ICE AGE? Just imagine the looks on the libs' faces when you tell them that!"
Roger: "Hey Clark, Bob told me that back in the 70s every scientist was TOTALLY sure there was going to be a massive ice age any day. Like as sure as global warming today. What an 'inconvenient truth' for the libs, HUH???"
Clark: "Jerry, scientists in the 70s were 100% SURE and ALL PINKY SWORE that there was DEFINITELY going to be an ice age and IN FACT it was OVERDUE BY 10,000 YEARS even though 10,000 years ago we were in an ice age and I guess maybe we were supposed to go into a SUPER ICE AGE but I don't know and my point is that LIBERALS ARE DUMB!"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Even if there was supposed to be an ice age by now, wouldn't the absence of an ice age by now indicate that something interesting might be going on that should be investigated? Something that might be making things warmer?

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

It's worth noting that the study which produced that graph was a phone survey of 5,000 households in 1994. The survey was then extrapolated to make the claim that there were some 2.5 million defensive gun uses in the US in 1994.

The National Institute of Justice published a similar study with similar results, but also noted that their extrapolated estimate of 3.1 million such incidents did not match up with the NCVS' (National Crime Victim's Survey) estimate of 108,000.

quote:

False positives. Regardless of which estimates one believes, only a small fraction of adults have used guns defensively in 1994. The only question is whether that fraction is 1 in 1,800 (as one would conclude from the NCVS) or 1 in 100 (as indicated by the NSPOF estimate based on Kleck and Gertz's criteria). Any estimate of the incidence of a rare event based on screening the general population is likely to have a positive bias. The reason can best be explained by use of an epidemiological framework.15 Screening tests are always subject to error, whether the "test" is a medical examination for cancer or an interview question for DGUs. The errors are either "false negatives" or "false positives." If the latter tend to outnumber the former, the population prevalence will be exaggerated. The reason this sort of bias can be expected in the case of rare events boils down to a matter of arithmetic. Suppose the true prevalence is 1 in 1,000. Then out of every 1,000 respondents, only 1 can possibly supply a "false negative," whereas any of the 999 may provide a "false positive." If even 2 of the 999 provide a false positive, the result will be a positive bias—regardless of whether the one true positive tells the truth. Respondents might falsely provide a positive response to the DGU question for any of a number of reasons:

• They may want to impress the interviewer
by their heroism and hence exaggerate
a trivial event.
• They may be genuinely confused due
to substance abuse, mental illness, or
simply less-than-accurate memories.
• They may actually have used a gun
defensively within the last couple of
years but falsely report it as occurring
in the previous year—a phenomenon
known as "telescoping."

Of course, it is easy to imagine the reasons why that rare respondent who actually did use a gun defensively within the time frame may have decided not to report it to the interviewer. But again, the arithmetic dictates that the false positives will likely predominate. In line with the theory that many DGU reports are exaggerated or falsified, we note that in some of these reports, the respondents' answers to the followup items are not consistent with respondents' reported DGUs. For example, of the 19 NSPOF respondents meeting the more restrictive Kleck and Gertz DGU criteria (exhibit 7), 6 indicated that the circumstance of the DGU was rape, robbery, or attack—but then responded "no" to a subsequent question: "Did the perpetrator threaten, attack, or injure you?"
The key explanation for the difference between the 108,000 NCVS estimate for the annual number of DGUs and the several million from the surveys discussed earlier is that NCVS avoids the false-positive problem by limiting DGU questions to persons who first reported that they were crime victims. Most NCVS respondents never have a chance to answer the DGU question, falsely or otherwise.

It mostly boils down to the typical problems of relying on surveys and only a few surveys at that.

Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Oct 20, 2015

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

quote:

For example, of the 19 NSPOF respondents meeting the more restrictive Kleck and Gertz DGU criteria (exhibit 7), 6 indicated that the circumstance of the DGU was rape, robbery, or attack—but then responded "no" to a subsequent question: "Did the perpetrator threaten, attack, or injure you?"

This is loving nuts here. Assuming that the interviewee isn't 100% full of poo poo, they're basically saying that they shot someone who wasn't threatening, attacking or injuring them.

I guess if we're playing with garbage statistics, we could extrapolate that out of the 2.5 million defensive gun uses, one third, or about 800,000 of them were actually gun owners shooting or brandishing at someone who wasn't threatening, attacking or injuring them, and then claiming it was a rape robbery or attack afterwards.

That actually doesn't seem too unlikely, I'm sure there are quite a few unreported incidents where a black salesman knocks on a door and the owner chases them away with a shotgun. "I thwarted a burglary!"

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006

Boywhiz88 posted:

He can be a bit milquetoast. I wish he would be up for legalization, but you have to admit he trolls the Minnesota RNC pretty hard. Good DFLers are the best though

He sounds like he's gargling marbles when he talks. Most mumble mouthed billionaire governor ever. Got no complaints about him other than that though.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

VitalSigns posted:

Goddamnit, it's a teacher I respect too, at least he is a history and government teacher, and not a science teacher


Change the comic to "Iran will have a Nuclear Weapon" for every panel and every person to a guy in a suit.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Mo_Steel posted:

The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus ((Click "PDF" near the top for the full paper))

The argument that there was a consensus around global cooling is simply a justification for continued ignorance given how false it really is.


Cast it into the fire! Destroy it! :byodood:

Thank you for this.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Mo_Steel posted:

Cast it into the fire! Destroy it! :byodood:

It burrrrnnnnnssss usssssssssss!"

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

I see we're getting the bleed off from the closed idiots on social media thread.

"The only value a women has is in her looks."

:fuckoff: This offends me as a feminist and as a sorta socialist.

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004
:aaaaa:

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Bingo!

Wow, that was actually Bingo across the entire card. I think this might give me liver damage.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.


They know Russia is purposefully not targeting ISIS, right?

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

BigRed0427 posted:

They know Russia is purposefully not targeting ISIS, right?

yeah these are the retards who play into the Russia is bombing ISIS narrative because RT says it.

fallingdownjoe
Mar 16, 2007

Please love me
There's a point where you have to applaud the propagandists being paid by the Kremlin to comment on news websites: at least some of these memes have to come from their offices. Good work right-wingers in sharing them!

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

fallingdownjoe posted:

There's a point where you have to applaud the propagandists being paid by the Kremlin to comment on news websites: at least some of these memes have to come from their offices. Good work right-wingers in sharing them!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/610143/Islamic-State-ISIS-Putin-Spetsnaz-Syria-special-forces-airstrikes

ISIS so weakened by Russian airstrikes and desertion it could be destroyed in HOURS

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609680/Islamic-State-ISIS-Russian-bombing-terror-Syria-Caliphate-defeat

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe

BigRed0427 posted:

They know Russia is purposefully not targeting ISIS, right?

Map of ISIS vs rebel controlled spaces and Russian (red) and US (blue) airstrikes:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...1e_graphic.html

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Part of my brain thinks I should be laughing at Americans cheering for Vladimir Putin.

But then I can't laugh.

Edit: Whats a good place to go for the current state of ISIS?

size1one
Jun 24, 2008

I don't want a nation just for me, I want a nation for everyone

fallingdownjoe posted:

There's a point where you have to applaud the propagandists being paid by the Kremlin to comment on news websites: at least some of these memes have to come from their offices. Good work right-wingers in sharing them!

The bar is so low that it doesn't really deserve any applause. Anything anti-obama or anti-liberal is going to be eaten right up regardless of how much effort is put into it.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




Tiger dog poodle years.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

BigRed0427 posted:

Part of my brain thinks I should be laughing at Americans cheering for Vladimir Putin.

But then I can't laugh.

Edit: Whats a good place to go for the current state of ISIS?

http://isis.liveuamap.com/

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice

Drugs and alcohol have only existed for 20 years!

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
Friend of mine posted this:


What followed was a dismissal by a European that it was inaccurate, which was rebutted by an American who basically said that, sure it works now, but it's totally gonna collapse some day and then I'll get to be smug.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I mean if education is free and healthcare is free, I really would not mind a 40% income tax, because having to pay for education and healthcare by myself as a private individual means that any money I get from a lower income tax is already spoken for anyway.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

drat, i really wish I could just post ":lol:" on facebook comments

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Armyman25 posted:

Friend of mine posted this:


What followed was a dismissal by a European that it was inaccurate, which was rebutted by an American who basically said that, sure it works now, but it's totally gonna collapse some day and then I'll get to be smug.



In case you're curious, this image is advertising a book. You can download the book for free. It uses 112 pages to say "Denmark is an evil communist socialist fascist liberal empire." I read the first two pages and it's indistinguishable from Markov chain output.


edit: Also the woman in the picture is a TV character :lol:

James Garfield fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 21, 2015

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Armyman25 posted:

Friend of mine posted this:


Please tell me more about these lover-class people.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Selachian posted:

Please tell me more about these lover-class people.
They work the means of production :heysexy:

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inkblot
Feb 22, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

Armyman25 posted:

Friend of mine posted this:
What followed was a dismissal by a European that it was inaccurate, which was rebutted by an American who basically said that, sure it works now, but it's totally gonna collapse some day and then I'll get to be smug.

"When it all falls apart, remember me." Said the smug man from his house made of burning tires to the person who didn't make their house out of tires, gasoline, and faulty electrical wiring.

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