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Fried Chicken posted:The media decided she was the next hot thing rather than her gaining any support - they changed the rules to put her in the big kids debate, gave her a ton of focus there, ran a bunch of op eds about "look, the republicans have a woman too!" and then reality set in that she is a complete fuckup who shouldn't be trusted to care for a pet rock. People weren't interested in her so it wasn't selling papers or getting clicks, so the press moved on, and things are reverting back to where they were. OK, I was just worried that crazy Republican primary voters were unaccountably not responding to her lies about the PP videos and well I need something to make sense anymore.
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zoux posted:OK, I was just worried that crazy Republican primary voters were unaccountably not responding to her lies about the PP videos and well I need something to make sense anymore. All the voters who would've loved that dumb poo poo have already been entranced by Ben Carson's dumb poo poo.
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Breaking sorta-news: Jim Webb is dropping out
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republican "moderates" (read: business-first republicans, not actually moderates) may just retire for those sweet lobbying bucks if the crazies don't let Ryan become speaker because that's going to scare the crazies, the prospect of rinos retiring on their own: quote:The moderate wing of the GOP is concerned that if the House cannot coalesce behind Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) or someone like him as speaker, some of the more pragmatic members of the caucus will retire, the National Journal reported Monday. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/moderates-gop-retirement-paul-ryan
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evilweasel posted:republican "moderates" (read: business-first republicans, not actually moderates) may just retire for those sweet lobbying bucks if the crazies don't let Ryan become speaker So this just keeps getting better and better.
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Northjayhawk posted:Breaking sorta-news: Jim Webb is dropping out Well it was fun while it lasted.
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evilweasel posted:republican "moderates" (read: business-first republicans, not actually moderates) may just retire for those sweet lobbying bucks if the crazies don't let Ryan become speaker If this actually became a thing, do you think the rump party patriarchs would have enough sway to sever the K Street connection for defectors?
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evilweasel posted:republican "moderates" (read: business-first republicans, not actually moderates) may just retire for those sweet lobbying bucks if the crazies don't let Ryan become speaker This has been a thing in my state. It wasn't announced, but the long time moderate conservatives just started quitting as more and more Tea Partiers got elected. I wouldn't be surprised if it's been happening in other states. It's just not fun to work with these people.
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Hollismason posted:So this just keeps getting better and better. It's all fun and games until the Tea Party gains a plurality of the seats in the majority party's caucus.
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Typical Pubbie posted:Well it was fun while it lasted. A week? Give or take a day or two
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Good Ole George. George W. Bush unleashes on Ted Cruz http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jeb-bush-george-bush-donors-ted-cruz-214933 quote:
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To be fair does anyone who has met Cruz actually LIKE him?
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Radish posted:To be fair does anyone who has met Cruz actually LIKE him? Nope.
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Radish posted:To be fair does anyone who has met Cruz actually LIKE him? Imagine how his kids hug him when he comes home and he sits there interested in listening about their day and then his wife comes in an gives him a kiss on the cheek and they sit down to a nice family dinner.
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zoux posted:Imagine how his kids hug him when he comes home and he sits there interested in listening about their day and then his wife comes in an gives him a kiss on the cheek and they sit down to a nice family dinner. And then they take their kids to bed, change out of their human skins, and then make sweet reptilian love before going to bed.
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I just thought it was funny because really Ted Cruz has done more for George Bush than his brother ever did. He was in the thick of it with the whole Supreme Court bullshit from what I understand.
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Kaal posted:And then they take their kids to bed, change out of their human skins, and then make sweet reptilian love before going to bed. http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics457.html
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Radish posted:To be fair does anyone who has met Cruz actually LIKE him? They say one shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but in this case it isn't so much a judgement as it is the same instinct one would associate with setting eyes upon a dread tome bound in human flesh and inscribed with unspeakable sigils.
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/rand-paul-2016-libertarianism-213265 Politico calling the death (stillbirth?) of lolbertarianism with the collapse of the Randyman's campaign. quote:Oh, and no less than 42 percent of millennials also think socialism is preferable to capitalism.  Could this be what happens when the opposition spend seven years calling a relatively popular center-left president a socialist unceasingly? Have we all been conditioned? zoux posted:OK, I was just worried that crazy Republican primary voters were unaccountably not responding to her lies about the PP videos and well I need something to make sense anymore. Her second debate performance got her a lot of attention and coverage, which she subsequently used to prove how awful a candidate she was. Of the big three outsiders, Fiorina's campaign has always tried to play her as the rational option- a captain of industry like Trump without his boorishness or Carson's Adventist baggage. The anti-establishment wing's Kim Possible to Hillary's She-Go. She's also run as secularly as you can while Republican. So for all of the buzz that her PP comments got, I don't think her potential support base ever rested with the people who rallied behind those videos. Social Conservatives and Christ voters have Carson, Cruz, and Huckabee openly flying their flag and working way harder to court them. Debate attention opened Fiorina's record at HP and as a political campaigner up for scrutiny, and since that record's actually pretty bad in both cases, the effect on her campaign has been negative. Her defense when challenged about this has consistently been a mix of "nuh-uh, those be known Clintonite lies" or "let me tell you about some Planned Parenthood videos I saw" which, when taken with what I noted before should explain why her fan base hasn't been growing.
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Fried Chicken posted:Didn't Bevin's campaign release internal polling last week that had him down? Thought I saw something to that effect in the news real quick
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Her second debate performance got her a lot of attention and coverage, which she subsequently used to prove how awful a candidate she was. I think it's more she did not effectively use it to carve out a niche. She's a bad candidate but she didn't really flub anything that Republican voters care about, she just didn't make a case for why she's better than an alternative. She's running as a sort of mix between outsider and establishment but if you want either outsider there's Trump or Carson, if you want tea-party friendly establishment there's Rubio, if you want religious wingnut there's Carson, and if you want solid establishment and naps there's Jeb! There's not really any niche of voters Fiorina really targets well and so once she stopped getting attention then people went back to not caring. There isn't a group of voters who want an outsider candidate with establishment cred.
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It seems neocons really have a soft spot for the Galactic Empire:quote:@BillKristol: .@continetti @DouthatNYT Needless to say, I was rooting for the Empire from the first moment. It was a benevolent liberal empire, after all. quote:@BillKristol: .@adesnik @DouthatNYT No objective evidence Empire was "evil." A liberal regime w meritocracy, upward mobility. Neocon/reformicon in spirit. quote:@continetti: @DouthatNYT I've been rooting for the Empire since 1983 Cheney: "I Was Honored To Be Compared To Darth Vader" We need dozens of think-pieces delving into this peculiar relationship STAT it's because they're assholes. E: quote:@Bro_Pair: Bill Kristol saw Star Wars and rooted for the army named after Nazi troops which massacred teddy bears in a forest
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Rhesus Pieces posted:We need dozens of think-pieces delving into this peculiar relationship STAT http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/248ipzbt.asp
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It seems neocons really have a soft spot for the Galactic Empire: To be fair who actually likes Ewoks?
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More accurately they idolized nazi analogues that tried to massacre teddie bears but got their asses kicked.
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Comedy note : it comes out in the extended universe that the emperor didn't like non humans. Cheney supports racist Empire, doesn't see problem.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Alabama: if you're too poor to pay for your citation we'll just take your blood instead and call it even. Hope you're not gay or have hepatitis or anything! Haha, holy poo poo. My state sucks (the blood out of the poor)
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Rebels actually do have guns, and they use them to fight against the tyranny of the Galactic Empire, but the conservative defenders of the 2nd Amendment are represented by the Imperial because But the Empire has the better guns and uniforms! And I'd totally be a bad rear end and not get my skull caved in by a mutant teddy bear like some Liberal victim with no gun!
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MariusLecter posted:But the Empire has the better guns and uniforms! And I'd totally be a bad rear end and not get my skull caved in by a mutant teddy bear like some Liberal victim with no gun! Say what you want about fascism, they know stylish iconography.
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evilweasel posted:I think it's more she did not effectively use it to carve out a niche. She's a bad candidate but she didn't really flub anything that Republican voters care about, she just didn't make a case for why she's better than an alternative. She's running as a sort of mix between outsider and establishment but if you want either outsider there's Trump or Carson, if you want tea-party friendly establishment there's Rubio, if you want religious wingnut there's Carson, and if you want solid establishment and naps there's Jeb! There's not really any niche of voters Fiorina really targets well and so once she stopped getting attention then people went back to not caring. There isn't a group of voters who want an outsider candidate with establishment cred. As best as I can tell Fiorina's sell seems to be "You want a woman? Well vote for me instead of Hillary. But you shouldn't want a woman! That's sexist! So don't vote for me!"
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World Famous Whore posted:Haha, holy poo poo. My state sucks (the blood out of the poor) If they didn't have the threat of going to jail, I would probably consider this a good idea. Just something like, donate blood, get $100 off your fine. There is almost always a blood shortage, and it would still help people who had trouble paying fines. Throwing people in jail for failure to pay is the only real problem in my eyes. Donating blood is still voluntary.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Oh wait, the empire were the fascists? The one on the left though is way bigger. Everybody does parade formations. It's spiffy.
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Hollismason posted:So Republicans are having their closed door meeting this afternoon. What are the odds it all falls apart? Depends on whether or not Paul Ryan agrees to fall on his sword.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Everybody does parade formations. It's spiffy. Everyone knows real leftists revolutionaries throw dance parties instead. e: https://youtu.be/26ro4zarX5s?t=1m18s fool of sound fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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