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Zanzibar Ham posted:It goes deeper than that Everybody has been trained since elementary school. If you've ever been "the caboose" then you aren't much better than Goebbel's
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Ron Jeremy posted:Oh wait, the empire were the fascists?  All the DoD is facist, apparently.
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Zeroisanumber posted:There's a little bit of Hitler in all of us. Every time a bell rings, a soldier gets his iron cross 
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Bird in a Blender posted:If they didn't have the threat of going to jail, I would probably consider this a good idea. Just something like, donate blood, get $100 off your fine. There is almost always a blood shortage, and it would still help people who had trouble paying fines. Throwing people in jail for failure to pay is the only real problem in my eyes. Donating blood is still voluntary. I'm pretty sure it's still an ethical minefield because you're really taking advantage of people who may not consent under normal circumstances to such a medical procedure.
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http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/10/impeach_hillary_clinton_on_day.html?hootPostID=b5f4d6a0657a493d9f3f17417c269faf#incart_river In more news from my lovely state, Rep Mo Brooks of Huntsville has promised to begin impeachment proceedings against Hillary Clinton day one of her presidency. He has already learned that she will win and apparently so will he.
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Considering the horribleness of the pre-quals it's not hard to argue the empire is good because the Jedi are so loving awful.
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Raerlynn posted:Comedy note : it comes out in the extended universe that the emperor didn't like non humans. Cheney supports racist Empire, doesn't see problem. The emperor didn't give a gently caress about if you were human or not. He capitalized on core world bigotry to advance his aims, but he was as comfortable with aliens as he was with humans. The emperor's bigotry was if you were a force user or not. If you were force sensitive and had the will to power to use it, he saw you as at least worth considering as at least a pawn in the gameboard. If you weren't force sensitive, or were but weren't strong enough he loathed you for your weakness and refusal to comply with How Society Should Be. If racism = prejudice by race + power then I'm not sure what prejudice based on spiritual connective would be called. "Racism" doesn't really encompass the totality of how toxic Sith ideology is.
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Gravel Gravy posted:The one on the left though is way bigger. I remember learning in a film class that this particular scene was an intentional imitation of Triumph of the Will. I forget exactly what Lucas's reasoning was, but my guess is it's just powerful iconography. Even Nazis sometimes had good filmmaking techniques that are worth copying.
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Speaking of the galactic empire... internet reactionary scum has turned on Star Wars: http://www.salon.com/2015/10/20/sta..._same_language/ I apologize if this was posted several pages back; gun-chat scares me. I feel like there's some commentary to be made here about how the horrible nerd communities have turned cannibalistic ever since they polarized/politicized, but nerds are bad.
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Zoran posted:I vote that we turn literally every thread into a Star Wars thread for the next two months. TFF and D&D are already working on it. I'd no poo poo like to do a D&D coverage of Sith ideology, the structure and operation of galactic politics, the Jedi Order as a necessity, obscure stuff from the old WEG sourcebooks and what it tells us about how the galaxy operated, etc. like the old LF Star Trek thread but for Star Wars.
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Martin O'Malley just played an acoustic cover of Taylor Swift on ABC. It's incredibly uncomfortable.
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My Man Shran posted:Speaking of the galactic empire... internet reactionary scum has turned on Star Wars: Get ready for someone to say that you're in fact, internet scum because you didn't No True Scotsman immediately. See it doesn't matter how many racists actually believe it, if one internet troll said it ironically, it is all ironic and you're scum for not believing so!
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Tobermory posted:Martin O'Malley just played an acoustic cover of Taylor Swift on ABC. It's incredibly uncomfortable. I wish Democratic candidates wouldn't do stuff like this. Guys, you're never going to be as cool as this guy: 
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"Heritage of Hate": Univ. of Miss. Students Seek Removal of Confederate Battle Flag from Campusquote:AMY GOODMAN: And what’s your assessment? Do you have the votes?
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Fried Chicken posted:like the old LF Star Trek thread but for Star Wars. Is this in the archives somewhere?
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zoux posted:Say what you want about fascism, they know stylish iconography. Coming soon from me, a deep dive into the iconography of fascism, Leo Strauss' theories on national mythos and how they have been applied to Reagan, and George Lucas lifting from both for his world building Joke post but I could legit probably crap out a 5 page paper on that, without even going into CineD style scene analysis
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Ron Jeremy posted:Is this in the archives somewhere? No idea, I don't have archives. Though I'd bet that most of the photoshops from it are no longer functioning if it is
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Something I've been wondering about. In the 90s there was also a shutdown controversy, yet I don't remember the media playing a false-equivalence "both sides are responsible" narrative. I remember the responsibility being laid squarely on the republicans, and them paying for it politically. So what's different between back then and now? Unless I'm remembering things incorrectly.
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Biden is giving a talk now, throwing a lot of backhanded shade at Hillary. Says she wasn't fully onboard with getting bin laden and only Panetta was (contradicting her story at the debate) and that the republicans aren't his enemies (against her answer at the debate, also drat foolish as the past few years have made clear)
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Man Kills Himself Because Star Wars’ Main Character is Blackquote:According to reports, Bobby-Jo, 53, of Charlotte, North Carolina was known by friends as a hardcore Star Wars fan. His wife, Sarah Garrison, also a Star Wars fan, attended comic-con every year dressed up as storm troopers. However, Mrs. Garrison would find her husband unresponsive with a suicide note saying “Make America White Again.”
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Fried Chicken posted:Coming soon from me, a deep dive into the iconography of fascism, Leo Strauss' theories on national mythos and how they have been applied to Reagan, and George Lucas lifting from both for his world building No joke, I did that for real once.
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VikingofRock posted:I remember learning in a film class that this particular scene was an intentional imitation of Triumph of the Will. I forget exactly what Lucas's reasoning was, but my guess is it's just powerful iconography. Even Nazis sometimes had good filmmaking techniques that are worth copying. Ninety five percent of Lucas's genius has been in inspired theft from others. Kurosawa, Joseph Campbell, etc.
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theblackw0lf posted:Something I've been wondering about. In the 90s there was also a shutdown controversy, yet I don't remember the media playing a false-equivalence "both sides are responsible" narrative. I remember the responsibility being laid squarely on the republicans, and them paying for it politically. IIRC they caught Newt Gingrich admitting that it was all a political ploy.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Ninety five percent of Lucas's genius has been in inspired theft from others. Kurosawa, Joseph Campbell, etc. All true artistic geniuses are thieves of the highest caliber.
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White people killing themselves doesn't make America any whiter. Though still appreciated.
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Could a debt default be spun as a terrorist attack? Only asking because Guantanamo is supposedly getting a little empty.
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Gravel Gravy posted:White people killing themselves doesn't make America any whiter. Also apparently sourced from a Onion ripoff site. Trying to find more info just gets me a story of a guy who killed his wife over Star Wars toys. 
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My Man Shran posted:Could a debt default be spun as a terrorist attack? Only asking because Guantanamo is supposedly getting a little empty. I'm not sure the worst lawmakers should get to visit Cuba before the average American tourist and spoil it.
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Fried Chicken posted:The emperor didn't give a gently caress about if you were human or not. He capitalized on core world bigotry to advance his aims, but he was as comfortable with aliens as he was with humans. If I didn't know any better I'd say Sith internal politics are lifted directly from real world fascist regimes- it's the same mess of internecine backstabbing will-to-power godawfulness that ensures fascist regimes are never as effectively managed as they'd like to be but ~somehow~ makes the Sith incredibly well-disciplined and effective.
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Fried Chicken posted:Biden is giving a talk now, throwing a lot of backhanded shade at Hillary. Says she wasn't fully onboard with getting bin laden and only Panetta was (contradicting her story at the debate) and that the republicans aren't his enemies (against her answer at the debate, also drat foolish as the past few years have made clear) Pretty stupid move on Biden's part. He's not going to gain support by doing that. edit: Seems like he's getting lambasted for changing his story- previous he said he opposed the raid.
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Bill Kristol is a coward who would never openly endorse a Tarkin Doctrine of foreign policy.Pope Guilty posted:If I didn't know any better I'd say Sith internal politics are lifted directly from real world fascist regimes- it's the same mess of internecine backstabbing will-to-power godawfulness that ensures fascist regimes are never as effectively managed as they'd like to be but ~somehow~ makes the Sith incredibly well-disciplined and effective. The Sith are only able to function as a single master/apprentice unit - multiple masters destroy each other.
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Pope Guilty posted:If I didn't know any better I'd say Sith internal politics are lifted directly from real world fascist regimes- it's the same mess of internecine backstabbing will-to-power godawfulness that ensures fascist regimes are never as effectively managed as they'd like to be but ~somehow~ makes the Sith incredibly well-disciplined and effective. It helps when your commanding officer can will you to death in seconds over the videophone.
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MariusLecter posted:Also apparently sourced from a Onion ripoff site. Trying to find more info just gets me a story of a guy who killed his wife over Star Wars toys. 
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Pope Guilty posted:If I didn't know any better I'd say Sith internal politics are lifted directly from real world fascist regimes- it's the same mess of internecine backstabbing will-to-power godawfulness that ensures fascist regimes are never as effectively managed as they'd like to be but ~somehow~ makes the Sith incredibly well-disciplined and effective. Sith internal politics led to a cycle of boom as a powerful lord arose, followed by a massive collapse after that lord was assassinated and everyone else fought over the scraps of his empire. It's not for nothing that one of the lords decided that there would only ever be two true Sith Lords at any given time, a master and an apprentice.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:This didn't happen. So is racism dead or is it not?
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Gravel Gravy posted:So is racism dead or is it not? The source is one of those "parody" news sites that spit out horseshit headlines for clickbait.
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