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Gaz-L posted:I think little beats like Gwen grumbling that Janet didn't tell her she had to do maintenance on the web-shooters are fine, but they need to pace themselves better with the cameos. It's one book, not the basis of a whole line like Spider-Girl or USM were.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think Loki was technically dead around the time of OMD, so that, at least Literally every single one of those people told him "Dude, it's her time." and he wouldn't accept it. Which I guess ties into how Peter has consistently been written as an immature manchild ever since OMD.
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I wonder if people in 2005 were still getting mad about the Clone Saga and rerouting every spider-man discussion to be about that
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Blockhouse posted:I wonder if people in 2005 were still getting mad about the Clone Saga and rerouting every spider-man discussion to be about that Yes.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:14
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In 2005? People do that NOW.
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There are three things you must discuss when discussing spidey. 1. OMD 2. The clone saga 3. Gwen Stacy's death. Everything else is just filler.
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I only ever see stuff about Gwen's death when they mention that OMD could've had her coming back but was decided that nah.
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Oct 21, 2015 00:52
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Oh, as someone who skipped RYV, is the Regent cool in ANY way?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I only ever see stuff about Gwen's death when they mention that OMD could've had her coming back but was decided that nah. I see it plenty usually being used as the point where spider-man comics were ruined forever spider-man fans are the whiniest babies. no one ever goes on giant rants about how streets of poison or fighting chance ruined captain america comics forever but every spider-man story is just another crime against Us Readers by the evil bastards at Marvel
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Oct 21, 2015 01:27
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Gaz-L posted:Oh, as someone who skipped RYV, is the Regent cool in ANY way? He was a loving bad rear end, however he was the least interesting part of RYV.
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Oct 21, 2015 01:35
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CharlestheHammer posted:There are three things you must discuss when discussing spidey. 4. Bitch about Slott.
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Blockhouse posted:I see it plenty usually being used as the point where spider-man comics were ruined forever You can't ruin what was never good,
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CharlestheHammer posted:There are three things you must discuss when discussing spidey. Give me enough space, and I can bitch about : - The endless clones of The Sinister Six (Superior Foes is amazing tho) - Green Goblin's unnecessary chain mail costume - love interests since Gwen's death that aren't MJ or Black Cat - Spider-Totems - Peter revealing his identify - Spider-Man's Iron costume or whatever - Mac Gargan getting the symbiote - New symbiotes after Carnage - Electro not wearing the star-shaped hat costume - Randomly killing good characters, like The Enforcers, old Hobgoblins, Stilt-Man (I know that was Punisher, but still) I'd also like to talk about how Molten Man could be awesome, but is largely ignored.
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Probably Magic posted:4. Bitch about Slott. That is pretty much just here.
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Blockhouse posted:I see it plenty usually being used as the point where spider-man comics were ruined forever I'm sorry that you can't understand why having the main character of a work making a deal with the devil and then being poorly written for 8 years might make people unhappy with a book.
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Oct 21, 2015 02:14
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Really I don't think any character has been hosed harder than spidey over the years. Besides hank but who gives a gently caress about hank.
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sorry that you can't understand why having the main character of a work making a deal with the devil and then being poorly written for 8 years might make people unhappy with a book. Most people find other interests after eight years. When Slott took over on Spider-Man I discovered I'm a huge Thor fan. Getting bored with Batman? I'll see how Superman is doing.
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X-Men and Spider-Man have both been poo poo for a long time, because of course, what with them being my favorite corners of the Marvel universe and all. Luckily, the auxiliary titles are still good, but the flagships turn good writers into bad or okay writers into outright boring drudgery. I liked both (most) New Avengers and Slott's Mighty Avengers, but X-Men and Spider-Man under both have been boring as hell.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Really I don't think any character has been hosed harder than spidey over the years. If we're talking about being hosed over in the books, even Spider-Man doesn't compare to Matt Murdock.
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Probably Magic posted:X-Men and Spider-Man have both been poo poo for a long time, because of course, what with them being my favorite corners of the Marvel universe and all. Luckily, the auxiliary titles are still good, but the flagships turn good writers into bad or okay writers into outright boring drudgery. I think it's some subconscious thing where you know you don't need to use your A-Game to keep the Spidey or The X-Men juggernaut rolling so your brain keeps better ideas in reserve for books that will actually need them to make it past twelve issues. Bendis's steller early work on New Avengers when it wasn't a sure thing and sharp decline as it became unstoppable is my anecdotal evidence.
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Probably Magic posted:X-Men and Spider-Man have both been poo poo for a long time, because of course, what with them being my favorite corners of the Marvel universe and all. Luckily, the auxiliary titles are still good, but the flagships turn good writers into bad or okay writers into outright boring drudgery. Bizarrely, I bet you'd dig the hell out of Spider-Man and The X-Men if you haven't read it yet.
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Skwirl posted:Bizarrely, I bet you'd dig the hell out of Spider-Man and The X-Men if you haven't read it yet. I probably would, need to get around to that. I do love Peter Parker: Teacher.
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X-O posted:If we're talking about being hosed over in the books, even Spider-Man doesn't compare to Matt Murdock. I meant from a character perspective, but forgot the true number one, Scott Summers.
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X-O posted:If we're talking about being hosed over in the books, even Spider-Man doesn't compare to Matt Murdock. 
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The major difference is usually Murdock's world gets destroyed by really good writers, where Spider-Man has had to deal with Dan Slott for the past 8 years.
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Any good writers in their mid 20s who can update Parker? If we are going for some kind of modern young hip Parker who kids can relate to them he needs a voice other than 40 year old man child.
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Matt Fraction would be a great Spider-Man writer.
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Codependent Poster posted:Matt Fraction would be a great Spider-Man writer. Matt Fraction and David Aja PRESENT: Spider Man Be still my beating heart
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Codependent Poster posted:Matt Fraction would be a great Spider-Man writer. He certainly proved that with the Sensational Annual he did.
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I'd like to see if Elliott Kalan's style is too goofy and meta to pull off a good long run. Even in failure it'd be interesting.
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The thought of a Matt Fraction Spider-man gets me excited. I think a Hickman Spider-man would be cool. Most people assume Hickman can't get the characterization but anytime he has written any spider-man in Avengers/FF/SW he has nailed it.
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trashbuilder posted:The thought of a Matt Fraction Spider-man gets me excited. After that burger scene from SW #6, I'm down with him writing either Spider-Man. "Where did you get a hamburger? AND DON'T SAY YOUR POCKET!"
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trashbuilder posted:The thought of a Matt Fraction Spider-man gets me excited. Hickman's use of Superior Spider-man was better than anything Slott ever did. "Yes well, I spit in that."
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Rhyno posted:Hickman's use of Superior Spider-man was better than anything Slott ever did. Everyone wrote Superior Spider Man better than Slott. It made me mad too because I really liked Superior and it's the series responsible for getting me back into comics, but towards the end I was hate reading it.
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ASM #2 was real good the joke with Aquarius noticing Spider-Man and Prowler was also real good
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ASM still good this week, though I could do without the 'Zodiac are just regular workaday people that bicker and can't be bothered with all this ceremony bullshit' jokes. And I've never liked how he writes Jonah. I much prefer Jonah when the blustering "threat or menace?!" stuff is a facade over a real journalist. He's much cooler in Silk, to be honest. Also, why does Pete have a Spider-Copter? Beyond that Slott really wants to write Batman?
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If you were a rich superhero would you not have a themed helicopter?
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Blockhouse posted:If you were a rich superhero would you not have a themed helicopter? I would have a themed Zeppelin. 
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have getting to a crime scene forty five minutes late because you had to inflate your loving balloon, hugo eckner!
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I never thought I would say this. Dan Slott is crushing it on this book right now.
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